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    Recovery question

    Hello guys. I need some tips because my levels not so good after my pct. I did an one year long cycle with 2 month deca 250mg+susta 500mg and later i've used 10ml npp too. But mostly i used just sustanon. 500mg ew. I know it was bullshit. I've used during hcg from the 8-11 month and proviron too(50mg).

    My pct was
    75/50/50/50 clomid
    30/20/40/20/20 nolvadex
    High dose D-vitamin


    After 3 and half week when the pct finished i did a blood test.
    My levels i think lower than the normal
    here it is:


    TSH: 3,257 mIU/L. // 0,400 - 4,000
    Free T4: 11,23 pmol/L. // 7,75 - 15,21
    Free T3: 5,27 pmol/L. // 3,80 - 6,00
    LH: 3,44 U/L. // 1,24 - 8,20
    FSH: 3,44 U/L. // 1,27 - 19,26
    Prolaktin 82,0 mIU/L . // 56,0 - 278,4
    Testosteron 10,3 nmol/L // 6,1 - 27,1
    Free testosteron index (FTI) 101,2 % // 24,3 - 110,2
    SHBG 10,20 nmol/L * * //13,30 - 89,50 low
    Kortizol 422,6 nmol/L 185-624 nmol/L
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------

    I need advice what can i do now. I need to be more patient or i need to do another pct? Or any supplements?

    Thanks for help. Merry Xmass!
    Last edited by Senerr99; 02-03-2017 at 06:42 AM.

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    I think you need to wait more time after PCT, 6 or 8 weeks and after that time blood work test.

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    Okay thanks. If it will not better what do you think what can i do? What i have to use to boost up?

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    I don't mean to be rude but this exact topic and the same questions have been answered twice in your previous threads over the last year and a half.

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    Sure. But i never get normal answer for my question. I know you know better and you are more clever than me and here is lot of guys who knows better this than me thats why i ask it. I read many studies. But there is lot of option for pct for example there are studies from doctors who said you need to use hcg eod and i read yours you dont recommend it. So i want some tips for my problem because i want recovery thats all. When you have some time pls tell me what i can do in the future and i will promise you i will never ask again thanks merry xmass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senerr99
    Hello guys. I need some tips because my levels not so good after my pct. I did an one year long cycle with 2 month deca 250mg+susta 500mg and later i've used 10ml npp too. But mostly i used just sustanon. 500mg ew. I know it was bullshit. I've used during hcg from the 8-11 month and proviron too(50mg). My pct was 75/50/50/50 clomid 30/20/40/20/20 nolvadex High dose D-vitamin After two and half week when the pct finished i did a blood test. My levels i think lower than the normal here it is: TSH: 3,257 mIU/L. // 0,400 - 4,000 Free T4: 11,23 pmol/L. // 7,75 - 15,21 Free T3: 5,27 pmol/L. // 3,80 - 6,00 LH: 3,44 U/L. // 1,24 - 8,20 FSH: 3,44 U/L. // 1,27 - 19,26 Prolaktin 82,0 mIU/L . // 56,0 - 278,4 Testosteron 10,3 nmol/L // 6,1 - 27,1 Free testosteron index (FTI) 101,2 % // 24,3 - 110,2 SHBG 10,20 nmol/L * * //13,30 - 89,50 low Kortizol 422,6 nmol/L 185-624 nmol/L ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I need advice what can i do now. I need to be more patient or i need to do another pct? Or any supplements? Thanks for help. Merry Xmass!
    I thought that you decided not to run Nolvadex for your pct because of the bad side affects and just went with Clomid and Vit. D?

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    No. I've used nolva and clomid and vit. D too. I read its the best solution for pct. Hcg and proviron during the cycle. I saw i made a mistake and my blood test was little earlier.. I will retest myself 4 weeks later than i will can share my levels. My question is when it will not better what can i do? Repeat pct with higher dose or any other solution ? Or simply just waiting..?!
    Thanks

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    Here's my response from your exact same question on 7/10/15.

    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    I think that you should stop taking proviron, hcg and the test booster because they are all suppressive to natural hormone production. Take the clomid at 100/50/50/50 and the nolva at 40/20/20/20/20/20. Then have blood work in 6-8 weeks to see if you have recovered. If you haven't recovered then you should run another PCT or consider Michael Scally's Power PCT Program.

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    Thanks for the help. i will try if it will dont reach the minimum level.
    Last edited by Senerr99; 12-24-2016 at 12:15 PM.

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    Here is some update from my blood stats. I can say its awful.... 10 weeks after pct./Ive used this period mk-677 because i heard its very helpful and not suppressive for testo or for the other things

    LH: 2.77 U/L. // 1,24 - 8,20
    FSH: 2.23 U/L. // 1,27 - 19,26
    Prolaktin 108.3 mIU/L . // 56,0 - 278,4
    Testosteron 6.4 nmol/L // 6,1 - 27,1
    Free testosteron index (FTI) 98.5 % // 24,3 - 110,2 - Because of the vitamin D i think
    SHBG 6.5 nmol/L * * //13,30 - 89,50 low
    Kortizol 328.5 nmol/L 185-624 nmol/L

    Actually i dont know what is the better for me , do another pct or try power pct? i want to do soon a cycle too... but i know i need to wait little time . Problem is if i do another pct i dont know will i lost weight too or not because my system is clear now.
    Thanks for the info
    Last edited by Senerr99; 02-03-2017 at 06:43 AM.

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    You have 3 options:

    1. Try more PCTs to see if they stick
    2. Live with low testosterone
    3. Start TRT

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    I never cycled but from what I learned on here. ..won't a 1 year long cycle require More then a normal 4 week pct..? I mean won't it be normal to be feeling like shit after a year long cycle lol.with deca none the less aside from everything else

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    If I cycled for a year I would not expect to recover. That is a long time for your body to produce no test. And Numbere is correct, as always. Run the power PCT it will give you your best chance at recovery. If that does not work you will do TRT or live with the low test.

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    Okay guys, thanks for the infos. I keep it on my mind.

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