Hi,
I think I'm shut down by Proviron I used it in addidtion to hgh, I had weird symptoms, like (excuse me, it's going explicit) my testes changed in size and firmness over the day, aswell as my libido, which sometimes was through the roof with morning wood etc and sometimes rather meh. Used 50-75mg over maybe two weeks, now I quit two days ago to see if this really messed with my htpa and my eq is lower, ball size aswell, though not as bad as the test cycle I did years ago.
Officially most steroids can be actually used as a contraceptive, while Provirons official use was hypogonadism and low sperm count and many studies show that it actually raises sperm count in dosages between 75mg-150. How can this be that it seems to have the opposite effect on me?
Mind you I only quit two days ago, because I really hate being supressed and staying on forever is no option for me, because of cost, it is cumbersome, costy and raises cholesterol.
Any help is appreciated, I would love to use it, because it increased my gym motivation and hardness a bit.
btw, here is a rat study, that had opposite effects on sperm count, but they used a seemingly very high dosage of it of 0,06mg/g bodyweight which would equal 6000mg for a 100kg male
Mesterolone (Proviron) induces low sperm quality with reduction in sex hormone profile in adult male Sprague Dawley rats testis | prof Lukeman Shittu - Academia.edu
Then again studies like these motivated me to give proviron a try:
Mesterolone treatment of patients with pathospermia.
Szollosi J, Falkay GY, Sas M.
The response to Mesterolone, in doses of 25 mg/day, was examined in 42 pathospermic patients. Treatment lasted for 100 days. The pronounced response to the Mesterolone treatment was observed in hypozoo- and oligozoospermia with low initial fructose content in the ejaculate. Fructose content attained its normal range after the treatment. During the therapeutic period 11 wives became pregnant. The authors conclude that Mesterolone does not influence plasma FSH, LH and testosterone levels, it has only peripheral effects.
PMID: 689818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]I'm at the point that probably many reach, better physique, but htpa maybe hitThe effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.
Varma TR, Patel RH.
Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.
Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.
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