Test e and tren e

[Long tooth]

Im 50 and am going to do a cycle. First time and dont know much. Plan on test e and tren e after holidays. Havnt got gear yet. Im not in great shape compared to 5 yrs ago. 6 ft 240. 205 to 215 was my normal weight. Diet isnt great but I'll work on it. Ive had bloodwork done and doc said all was normal. Im sure im missing alot. So let me know if what im gonna do is safe enough.

[Obs]

Tren is a bad choice for a first timer and especially tren e. It is an advanced aas that will get you farther along, on down the road. After 5 or 6 cycles try tren ace. The shorter ester will give you less of a problem if it turns out you react adversely. The enanthate will still be in you hanging around, if you have an adverse reaction, for weeks insteads of days vs tren ace. I will post up a thead link with all the info you need. God bless and Merry Christmas brother!

[Obs]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[Long tooth]

Thanks bud

[Jonbana]

500 never cycled ... stay away from tren save yourself the trouble lol

[Juced_porkchop]

i would rec teste 400-600mg ew for 14ish weeks, with an AI during and PCT of 4-5 weeks of 50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed.
if you are on hrt then just go back to hrt and drop the AI during that time if you dont need it anymore

[songdog]

You got some good advice I hope you follow it.Research before you cycle so you know wats going on in your body and wat to due if something happens.And leave TREN alone wait for 6 or 7th cycle.Tren can really mess with your system and your head.

[TRA]

Im 50 and am going to do a cycle. First time and dont know much. Plan on test e and tren e after holidays. Havnt got gear yet. Im not in great shape compared to 5 yrs ago. 6 ft 240. 205 to 215 was my normal weight. Diet isnt great but I'll work on it. Ive had bloodwork done and doc said all was normal. Im sure im missing alot. So let me know if what im gonna do is safe enough.

Based on experience, I would work on dropping some body fat before cycling. I have done it both ways, with higher body fat lost almost everything gained when cutting all the fat. Many say <15%, I have done okay a little higher than that with the "lean gains" instead of "dirty bulking" approach, especially with HGH in the mix. Just a thought.

[charger69]

Im 50 and am going to do a cycle. First time and dont know much. Plan on test e and tren e after holidays. Havnt got gear yet. Im not in great shape compared to 5 yrs ago. 6 ft 240. 205 to 215 was my normal weight. Diet isnt great but I'll work on it. Ive had bloodwork done and doc said all was normal. Im sure im missing alot. So let me know if what im gonna do is safe enough.

Do you know your bp and cholesteral levels? A rough guestimate with no photos .... Your in your >20% bf.
Already said, but I need to say it.... Test only.
You also need hCG, AI, and PCT..

[Long tooth]

My bodyfat is 20% if not 25. My bp was 180/78 a month ago. I will not go with the tren. Id like a fat cutter if there is such a thing. The test e and what ever would take away side effects if they were to occur. Also whats needed for aftercare? Ive read if you cucle for 14 wk your aftercare is same time. Dumb down any recommendations for a cycle. Could I take hgh on top of test? again thanks for the intrest..

[charger69]

My bodyfat is 20% if not 25. My bp was 180/78 a month ago. I will not go with the tren. Id like a fat cutter if there is such a thing. The test e and what ever would take away side effects if they were to occur. Also whats needed for aftercare? Ive read if you cucle for 14 wk your aftercare is same time. Dumb down any recommendations for a cycle. Could I take hgh on top of test? again thanks for the intrest..

Your blood pressure will go even higher with AAS. You really need to first take care of your bp. I am not a Dr., but I would be freaking out with my bp at 180. I would also get blood work done to see how everything is going. I am suspicious that you have other issues that are not good with taking AAS.
Health should always be #1 priority over everything else.
My recommendation:
Get bp down to at least 130. Naturally this comes through time with diet and exercise
Gradually increase cardio to 30-40 minutes
Get your body fat to below 15%
Go to the diet section they have some real experts there. Note: diet is not food deprivation, it is eating the right foods at the right time.
You will be eating 5-6 times a day... You will not go hungry. I Have a suspicion that you probably only eat 2 times a day now.

[Long tooth]

Meant to say 120/78

[Long tooth]

And eat twice aday your good my heart is fine im sure i go to VA on regular basis

[Long tooth]

Appreciate your advice think im going with what you recommend. Thanks man

[kelkel]

Good advice from the above guys but before you embark on any of that you need to get full blood work to establish baselines. Odds are at your age your T is probably already on the low side and you may be a candidate for hormone replacement. That, in and of itself if done properly can make a huge difference in all aspects of life.

Take a look in the Finding A Doc sticky thread at the top of the HRT Forum and try and get the first list of blood work there. Also be sure to maintain your own copy of your blood work for future reference. Keep in mind many doctors do not really know hormones well as they're really not trained in them in med school. Often times you'll have to go through several doctors to find one who's sharp at hormone replacement.

Stick around here, do some reading in the HRT Forum and self-educate more. It can help you greatly.

kel

[Long tooth]

Thanks im learning more daily

[Long tooth]

Ive gotten test e for 14wk cycle at 500mg a wk. have clomid 50mg x 50. Tamox 20mg x 50. Do in need an AI? Found aromasin in liquid.how much, how often, an how to take

[Rusty11]

In one ear and out the other???

[MrBafner]

Test E is a long acting test which will take a few days to become active. Your levels will build up and stay in your blood stream a lot longer, you'll have plenty in your system by the end of 14weeks.
Clomid gives me huge headaches and skin rashes and Tamoxifen is a hard one for me to get.