Deca and sus first cycle, need info

[Angelo1984]

I wish I would've joined this forum before starting my cycle. Here it is, I been taking 100mg of deca and 250mg of sostenon 250 per week. I'm on my 4th week now. I'm 33 male at 270lbs. I would say 20%body fat trying to lose weight and get some good muscle. Am I taking too much or too little? Any info would be great. Thanks.

[songdog]

AAS isn't a diet aid bro and chances are your bf is higher than 20%. Losing weight and adding muscle well that's a hard thing to due bro beacuse to add muscle you need to eat and you are cutting or should be(Which is a TOTAL waste of a 1st cycle) or you are only going too get fatter.Good luck bro.Sorry just read your stats 6ft 270 you are either a monster or pushing 30+BF you risk having E2 problems cycling at such a high bf bro.

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[charger69]

I would agree that you are probably underestimating your BF. I seriously would stop the cycle. What is your BP? Cholestral? I am but no means a Dr. However from your stats I would expect them to be on the higher end. Adding AAS to the mix will just take it higher and possibly to dangerous levels.
You have come to the right place if you want to do AAS as safely as possible. There are always risks with AAS but the vets here are fabulous.
I recommend that you stop the cycle, research, and go to the diet section. The vets in that section are phenomanal..
As an aside, your first cycle should be test only with an AI and hCG and liver support.
Good luck, but please educate yourself first.

[Angelo1984]

Thanks for the info. I know it's not a diet aid but it has helped me outa great deal since I started. I lift in the mornings and do hiit cardio in the evenings. About how much bf do you think would be way better, to be on this cycle?

[Angelo1984]

Hey thanks, I was gonna try nolvadex and letrozole.
What would I be looking for in blood work?if you don't mind me asking.

[Angelo1984]

Yea I'll take all the help and info I can get. I'm gonna go check my bf %soon hopefully it won't be too high.

[charger69]

Thanks for the info. I know it's not a diet aid but it has helped me outa great deal since I started. I lift in the mornings and do hiit cardio in the evenings. About how much bf do you think would be way better, to be on this cycle?

I do not recommend cycling above 15% bf. I actually lost 56 lbs naturally before cycling. You have alot going on when cycling and the last thing you want to worry about is cholesteral and bp. You have estrogen build up, etc that you need to worry about. Also, I would just do test to begin with. You would be surprised of the results with test alone.
Once you have bloodwork and experience, you know what you can and can't do.
It sounds like you have the exercise part, but the diet part is very important. Any AAS can be used for cutting or bulking, the determination is made by your diet. That's how important diet is!

[Angelo1984]

Ok so, if I stop taking deca and sus this week, I still need pct correct? Would nolvadex and letrozole be what I need? If so, would I also take them for 4 weeks? Forgive my ignorance, I'm here to learn.

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[kelkel]

Ok so, if I stop taking deca and sus this week, I still need pct correct? Would nolvadex and letrozole be what I need? If so, would I also take them for 4 weeks? Forgive my ignorance, I'm here to learn.

Yes, you'll need pct. Read the Successful First Cycle thread listed at the top of this forum and read it thoroughly. Follow the pct laid out in it. Then, stick around, read - learn- contribute and have fun.

[songdog]

You need Nova and Clomid NOT LETRO if you take Letro you will crash your E2 then you will really feel like sh1t!. I am going to give you some advice and I suggest you take it.READ all our stickys there is a ton of info there you NEED to know prior to cycling.This is for your safety beacuse aas can really mess your body up if you don't do things right.

[Angelo1984]

Ok thanks kelkel I'll get to reading and hopefully I learn all this, it's fkn exciting lol. But I will try to get my bf% down until I ever try another cycle again.

[Angelo1984]

Thank you songdog, I'm not trying to mess up my body. I'll look for nova and Clomid instead. I'm gonna read thru all the stickys. But could you tell me how much and how often would I be taking nova and Clomid? I know it's probably on the stickys but it mite take me a while to find it and I want to get started on it before I really start feeling like sh1t.

[charger69]

There are some "rules" for taking AAS.
1) never take AAS prescribed by your dealer
2) always have your cycled well planned out
3). Have everything on hand before starting your cycle ( ie AI, hCG, PCT, etc)

You will learn a great deal because you listen and do not think you know more than everyone else.
I would recommend 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20 for PCT. i normally would have the second week be the same as the first, but you have only beeen cycling 4 weeks.

[Angelo1984]

Ok so you mean
Nova
Week 1: 100 mg
Week 2: 50 mg
3: 50 mg
4: 50 mg
And Clomid
40 mg
20 mg
20 mg
20 mg
Is that correct?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Ok so you mean
Nova
Week 1: 100 mg
Week 2: 50 mg
3: 50 mg
4: 50 mg
And Clomid
40 mg
20 mg
20 mg
20 mg
Is that correct?

yes but the amounts are to be taken every day for the week.
So Nolva week 1 is 100mg ED for the week so 700mg total.

[Angelo1984]

Ok thank you, I will follow your advice. How soon do I go get blood work?

[NACH3]

yes but the amounts are to be taken every day for the week.
So Nolva week 1 is 100mg ED for the week so 700mg total.

OP had the nolva and clomid backwards in post - I'm sure DLD meant clomid 700mgs first wk & nolva 40mgs/day = 280mgs wkly etc for each as the amounts come down...

[Angelo1984]

Ok so it's the other way around. Can he confirm it? Because I'm going to start taking them on Friday.

[NACH3]

Ok so it's the other way around. Can he confirm it? Because I'm going to start taking them on Friday.

It's the way I said if you go to full site it'll show his 'like' on my post DLD just mixed up the clomid and nolva... start when you need

100mgs clomid/ed for a wk then 50mgs/day for 3 more wks taken with nolvadex 40mgs/day for a wk then 20mgs/day for 3more wks...

[Jphunter]

I wish I would've joined this forum before starting my cycle. Here it is, I been taking 100mg of deca and 250mg of sostenon 250 per week. I'm on my 4th week now. I'm 33 male at 270lbs. I would say 20%body fat trying to lose weight and get some good muscle. Am I taking too much or too little? Any info would be great. Thanks.

Besides Bf% being that you already started the cycle , I personally would drop the deca especially at that dose . My first cycle was just sus, 1 ml every 7 days and I put on over 30 lbs . And that was just 10 weeks . If you want a simple way to burn fat start eating every 3 hours clean foods . Protein and veggie for 2 days and on your 3 day clean carbs every other meal then repeat . The weight will melt off of you . Human beings are foragers by nature , we are meant to constantly be on the look out for food small meals thruought the day . The evolution of man gives us 3 meals a day which is why there is so many people over weight , especially in the US . Do some research on cycling your carbs . It is a brainless way to burn mass amounts of fat or build lean muscle depending on what your eating . Again , 1st cycle I would drop the deca IMO .