Tbol

[charger69]

My last bulking cycle was the best so far (dbol/test/deca-50/600/750). I never plateaud for 16 weeks (dbol 5 weeks).
I was talking with some guys and decided to try something new and replace dbol with tbol and lower the test with the theory of leaving the receptors for the deca. I just started tbol/test e/deca- 40/200/600. I also read that with tbol you do not need the same dosage.
I have read many threads (most of them years ago) and there are numerous opinions on dosage and time on for tbol. I was planning on being on for 5 weeks.
I am looking for something that matches the resulta of my last bulk.
I am trying to see if there is still a wide array of dosage and time or if it is more uniform now. Please provide feedback based off of experience.

[Octaneforce]

Tbol doses seem all over the place. I guess it depends on how good your gear is. Im doing king of hearts tbol 60mg daily alongside test prop and i think its working. Its only been about 10 days but i feel stronger already. Time will tell. As for duration tbol comes on slower than dbol so im doing 6 weeks with 2400mg NAC daily. If you want you could pm me or bump the thread in another 2 weeks and I'll keep you updated.

[Ashop]

I've made great gains on 40mg daily, even as low as 20mg before. I see guys running it as high as 80-100mg but I think its
unnecessary for your average recreational bodybuilder.

[charger69]

there was one vet that recommended 100 mg of tbol. I will probably try 60. First week on 40 and everything seems fine.
Does tbol increase apetite? Does it speed up your heart rate?
I noticed that my appetite is increased and at times my heart beat is acceperated. Never had this on previous cycles.

[PT1982]

Tbol isn't going to match your results from the last time with dbol. I love tbol and I prefer the added mass from tbol over dbol. I'm not a fan of bloat. That's not to say I don't like dbol. I do. From what you said, it seems like you were extremely pleased with the last cycle. I'm wondering why you didn't repeat the same cycle? I know what my favorite blast is and I typically only run that cycle because I know what to expect and I like the results, so I have no reason to change it.

*EDIT - And as far as dosing, Alin nailed it. Some run it at 100mgs daily, but it's not mandatory. I like it in the 40-60mg range. I wouldn't say 100mgs is a waste, or even too much. It's just not needed to get good results. You'll get noticeable results off even small doses, unlike anavar.

[charger69]

I spoke with a number of people and they prefer low test with Deca. I'm not sure how much more time I am going to be competing so I am trying different approaches to see if I can gain an advantage. I also feel that the other cycles that I have planned can make up if this cycle does not provide what I am looking for.

[jstone]

Tbol isn't going to match your results from the last time with dbol. I love tbol and I prefer the added mass from tbol over dbol. I'm not a fan of bloat. That's not to say I don't like dbol. I do. From what you said, it seems like you were extremely pleased with the last cycle. I'm wondering why you didn't repeat the same cycle? I know what my favorite blast is and I typically only run that cycle because I know what to expect and I like the results, so I have no reason to change it.

*EDIT - And as far as dosing, Alin nailed it. Some run it at 100mgs daily, but it's not mandatory. I like it in the 40-60mg range. I wouldn't say 100mgs is a waste, or even too much. It's just not needed to get good results. You'll get noticeable results off even small doses, unlike anavar.

Good anavar will show results with 30-40mg. The problem is that 98% of the VAR is trash. Par pharmaceutical is unreal if you're lucky enough to get some. I got some from ischus about 2 years ago that was almost as good 40mg was all I needed. The only problem with the par pharmaceutical is the price, 60 10mg tabs per bottle, and going prices is 250-300$. Even though it's spendy I buy it every time it becomes available, and inhave the extra cash. I missed out on a few bottles about 3 months ago.

[nate10]

Hmm keep us updated on how it kicks in , I'm going to be running a clean bulk cycle starting oct 1st.
test 500 mg
deca 400mg
Tbol for 60mg first week then 70mg for 3 weeks. 1 month total.
I'm also on the boat with not knowing a good dosage , because everything I read posts and these forums people go from 40-100mgs lol.
Some say 40mg did wonders some say it wasn't until they upped it to 100mg that they started feeling it lol.

[charger69]

Hmm keep us updated on how it kicks in , I'm going to be running a clean bulk cycle starting oct 1st.
test 500 mg
deca 400mg
Tbol for 60mg first week then 70mg for 3 weeks. 1 month total.
I'm also on the boat with not knowing a good dosage , because everything I read posts and these forums people go from 40-100mgs lol.
Some say 40mg did wonders some say it wasn't until they upped it to 100mg that they started feeling it lol.

Is there a reason for 4 weeks?


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[nate10]

Mostly because I only got enough to run those dosage at 4 weeks. Or I might switch and do 50mg for 5 weeks.
Not sure yet though , but basically I only have 200 x 10mg tbol pills.

[PT1982]

Good anavar will show results with 30-40mg. The problem is that 98% of the VAR is trash. Par pharmaceutical is unreal if you're lucky enough to get some. I got some from ischus about 2 years ago that was almost as good 40mg was all I needed. The only problem with the par pharmaceutical is the price, 60 10mg tabs per bottle, and going prices is 250-300$. Even though it's spendy I buy it every time it becomes available, and inhave the extra cash. I missed out on a few bottles about 3 months ago.

Good anavar only needs run at that dose anyways. I was talking about the 10-20mg range that Alin was talking about with tbol, which it will show results on. Anavar, pharma or not, won't give any noticeable results in that range. Its dang good for healing cuts and scrapes at that dose though. Lol

[jstone]

Good anavar only needs run at that dose anyways. I was talking about the 10-20mg range that Alin was talking about with tbol, which it will show results on. Anavar, pharma or not, won't give any noticeable results in that range. Its dang good for healing cuts and scrapes at that dose though. Lol

There's only a couple orals I think are ok in the 10-20mg range, and that's halo, and superdrol. I don't like going over 10mg with superdrol for more than a few days. If sd didn't make me feel like shit it would be great I have some, and it just sits there every once in a while 5mg pre workout for a heavy day is all.

[charger69]

I have been on a week and I am gradually gaining weight however my vascularity has gone to a different level. I was not expecting this. Is this from the tbol or is it something else? I would not expect a change in 1 week.

[nate10]

I have been on a week and I am gradually gaining weight however my vascularity has gone to a different level. I was not expecting this. Is this from the tbol or is it something else? I would not expect a change in 1 week.

How many MGS a day you doing so far?

[charger69]

How many MGS a day you doing so far?

I was on 40 mg. I upped it Monday to 60


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