Please Check My Cycle

[R2D1]

This is my 3rd cycle after doing two 12 weeks of Test Cyp only, AI during and Nolva for PCT. (with 14 weeks between cycles)

Trying to up the ante with stacking.

43yo Male, estimating 20%bf (bringing it down more), exercise 5x / week.

This cycle is basically the "athlete" cycle as per the web site here, but I have cut short the DecaNan the last 2 weeks to better facilitate PCT. My main question is with regards to AI, HCG and PCT - but any advice on the cycle appreciated.

If needed, Nolva during cycle is in the event of any Gyno symptoms.

[Octaneforce]

Test and deca sound low to me. What are your goals? Also hcg should be 250iu twice a week for a total of 500iu per week.

[R2D1]

Test and deca sound low to me. What are your goals? Also hcg should be 250iu twice a week for a total of 500iu per week.

As I'm new to stacking, I thought I would just follow the Athlete stack from here: www.steroid.com/Athletic-Cycle.php

At my age, goals are on court performance improvement, help with injury prevention (not looks so much).

Will update the HCG frequency - thanks!

[Octaneforce]

Okay then this cycle does make sense. I just assume everybody wants to get huge lol. Id still bump up the test to 150-200mg/week. If its ugl stuff then its probably underdosed to begin with and 100mg a week will barely keep you up to normal test range.

[R2D1]

Okay then this cycle does make sense. I just assume everybody wants to get huge lol. Id still bump up the test to 150-200mg/week. If its ugl stuff then its probably underdosed to begin with and 100mg a week will barely keep you up to normal test range.

Thanks, I will give it a go. Appreciate the feedback - especially on the hcg. Hopefully the timings and dosage on the AI and Nolva seem like a good starting point otherwise.

[Octaneforce]

Thanks, I will give it a go. Appreciate the feedback - especially on the hcg. Hopefully the timings and dosage on the AI and Nolva seem like a good starting point otherwise.

Ai looks fine. Nolva you can take daily if you are gyno prone. Pct should include clomid at 75/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/20/20/20

[R2D1]

Ai looks fine. Nolva you can take daily if you are gyno prone. Pct should include clomid at 75/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/20/20/20

Sorry - that clomid (and Nolva) is 4 weeks, first week 75mg clomid per day, second week 50mg per day and so on?

[Octaneforce]

Sorry - that clomid (and Nolva) is 4 weeks, first week 75mg clomid per day, second week 50mg per day and so on?

Yepp

[R2D1]

I would up the test and deca and change the winstrol for some dbol first 4 weeks. And also I would run deca a bit longuer, maybe 12 weeks.

I already bought the Winstrol I will research dbol though.

If I run the Deca 12 weeks, should I extend the Cyp 14 (taper the deca?) or they can finish same time?

[Octaneforce]

Dbol is for putting on mass. I dont think thats what the op is trying to do

[R2D1]

Dbol is for putting on mass. I dont think thats what the op is trying to do

Yes. Correct. From the info pages on this web site, Dbol is big mass increases. I’m thinking more lance Armstrong, tennis players etc. too big will cause sport specific decreases in performance.

[ScotchGuard02]

A healthy male is producing about 70mg/wk of natural Testosterone. If you're taking 100mg/wk, you're taking just enough to shut down your natural production of Test but not enough to make much gains. I would up the Test just a little to 200mg/wk. That would be about double the natural production but still well below the "normal" 500mg/wk Test cycle.

If you want a Lance Armstrong type of build I would not run Deca, I would run Masteron. Deca will hold water and is considered "bulking" gear. Mast will help remove water give a leaner, tighter look. 200mg/wk should be good enough.

Don't run Winstrol or Dbol. Stick with Test/Mast (200/200 per week) and you'll make lean gains. Watch your diet and add some cardio into your workout. Not too much, about 20mins 3x week.

[redz]

Winstrol for injury prevention I have heard it all now.

[Tzan]

I too would swap out the deca for something else. No matter my diet deca is the one chemical that always blows me up...maybe sub it for EQ or primo

[R2D1]

Winstrol for injury prevention I have heard it all now.

According to the steroid profiles from this web page, the winstrol - as part of the stack, is supposed to increase gains in power and speed. The deca for lean gains, joint relief and muscle repair and the test cyp for some size and strength, but mostly to aid the deca. That’s my understanding of the stack advised under the athlete cycle.

[R2D1]

I too would swap out the deca for something else. No matter my diet deca is the one chemical that always blows me up...maybe sub it for EQ or primo

Thanks - I will check out the profiles for the primo and eq.

Edit - sorry, was that primo suggestion for primobolan it primoteston?

[R2D1]

A healthy male is producing about 70mg/wk of natural Testosterone. If you're taking 100mg/wk, you're taking just enough to shut down your natural production of Test but not enough to make much gains. I would up the Test just a little to 200mg/wk. That would be about double the natural production but still well below the "normal" 500mg/wk Test cycle.

If you want a Lance Armstrong type of build I would not run Deca, I would run Masteron. Deca will hold water and is considered "bulking" gear. Mast will help remove water give a leaner, tighter look. 200mg/wk should be good enough.

Don't run Winstrol or Dbol. Stick with Test/Mast (200/200 per week) and you'll make lean gains. Watch your diet and add some cardio into your workout. Not too much, about 20mins 3x week.

Thanks, I will research the test / masteron stack. Appreciate the feedback.

[R2D1]

Stick with Test/Mast (200/200 per week) and you'll make lean gains.

Sorry for very late reply - the 200/200 - would they be taken same day or stagger (or doesn't matter?)

[DarthFlex]

Do 100/100 twice a week
Make sure their are both the same ester.

[R2D1]

Do 100/100 twice a week
Make sure their are both the same ester.

Great, thanks. Can you combine into the one syringe?

[Dannyboy51577]

According to the steroid profiles from this web page, the winstrol - as part of the stack, is supposed to increase gains in power and speed. The deca for lean gains, joint relief and muscle repair and the test cyp for some size and strength, but mostly to aid the deca. That’s my understanding of the stack advised under the athlete cycle.

Its possible to get lean gains or cut with deca but thats a difficult proposition. More than likely you will put on mass and water. Its my favorite, but thats for bulking, adding size. Plus running it at 10 wks is cutting it short. Same with dbol. If you arent looking to add size before you cut, i would suggest avoiding both.
Give Scotchguards recommendation some thought- it fits what you are trying to accomplish without having to do a bulk then cut, which i dont think you want to do. There are a few other combos, but that is probably the quickest and easiest

[R2D1]

Its possible to get lean gains or cut with deca but thats a difficult proposition. More than likely you will put on mass and water. Its my favorite, but thats for bulking, adding size. Plus running it at 10 wks is cutting it short. Same with dbol. If you arent looking to add size before you cut, i would suggest avoiding both.
Give Scotchguards recommendation some thought- it fits what you are trying to accomplish without having to do a bulk then cut, which i dont think you want to do. There are a few other combos, but that is probably the quickest and easiest

Thanks. I've only got two more weeks of the current stack and then I will be changing to Scotchguards cycle for my next round after PCT. So far with what I have done I'm happy with the results. no gyno or sides that are apparent to me. Maybe a little bigger than I would like, as you say that's probably water and a bit of size with the deca. But overall strength and performance is at a level I'm happy with. Will do an in cycle blood test to compare with pre cycle. Not sure who writes the original stack suggestions fro the main web page or how long it's been up there, but it was a good starting point and the comments and suggestions here have been a great help for planning my next cycle. Cheers!

[DarthFlex]

Great, thanks. Can you combine into the one syringe?

Yes
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[Rulloa28]

Hey their any help I'm new to this and will like to get bulk and get big just not sure we're to start or watt to take LIL lost here any help? Thank you Rey

[fit_deskjocky]

Hey their any help I'm new to this and will like to get bulk and get big just not sure we're to start or watt to take LIL lost here any help? Thank you Rey

Do your research, read the stickies. Start you own thread with specific questions. Don't hijack

[GearHeaded]

Nothing wrong with trying to stay lean on a low dose of Deca. 200mg per week is simply a therapeutic dose anyways (some guys stay on that year round just for joint support). Run your test at 200mg as well. also nothing wrong with running Winstrol the last 6 weeks like you plan..
you simply need to add about 400mg per week of Masteron to this and that will make this cycle a legit cycle (rather then a therapeutic run of AAS)

[R2D1]

Hey their any help I'm new to this and will like to get bulk and get big just not sure we're to start or watt to take LIL lost here any help? Thank you Rey

This thread is the complete opposite of what you want.

[R2D1]

Don't run Winstrol or Dbol. Stick with Test/Mast (200/200 per week) and you'll make lean gains. Watch your diet and add some cardio into your workout. Not too much, about 20mins 3x week.

Stupid question time: Would it be better to do

Monday 200mg of Test
Thursday 200 mg of Masteron

OR

Monday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo
Thursday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo

(or doesn't make any difference)

[R2D1]

Don't run Winstrol or Dbol. Stick with Test/Mast (200/200 per week) and you'll make lean gains. Watch your diet and add some cardio into your workout. Not too much, about 20mins 3x week.

Stupid question time: Would it be better to do

Monday 200mg of Test
Thursday 200 mg of Masteron

OR

Monday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo
Thursday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo

(or doesn't make any difference)

Hi, sorry... getting ready to start this cycle in August and was just wondering about the above question on amount and timing during the week. I need to start planning this far in advance.

[David LoPan]

Stupid question time: Would it be better to do

Monday 200mg of Test
Thursday 200 mg of Masteron

OR

Monday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo
Thursday 100mg Test / 100mg Masteron (total 200mg) combo

(or doesn't make any difference)

Monday 250mg Test / 200mg Masteron (total 450mg) combo
Thursday 250mg Test / 200mg Masteron (total 450mg) combo

You need to up that dose like I put above if you want results and now just shut down your natural test levels.

[Chrisp83TRT]

Okay then this cycle does make sense. I just assume everybody wants to get huge lol. Id still bump up the test to 150-200mg/week. If its ugl stuff then its probably underdosed to begin with and 100mg a week will barely keep you up to normal test range.

I’d beg to differ dude, any popular or reputable ugl tend to have overdosed vials.. it’s quite the opposite of what you are stating.
Pharmgrade stuff tends to be dosed correctly because the fda regulates it.
What some people don’t understand is overdosing isn’t necessarily good either because it can be dangerous if too over but for the most part they OD their stuff.

[R2D1]

Monday 250mg Test / 200mg Masteron (total 450mg) combo
Thursday 250mg Test / 200mg Masteron (total 450mg) combo

You need to up that dose like I put above if you want results and now just shut down your natural test levels.

Thanks for your reply. I think post 14 covers your concern. I'm more worried about should the injections of the different steroids be the same day or different days. looks like you're saying it should be the test on mon and the masteron on the thurs.

[David LoPan]

Thanks for your reply. I think post 14 covers your concern. I'm more worried about should the injections of the different steroids be the same day or different days. looks like you're saying it should be the test on mon and the masteron on the thurs.

Here is why you take both twice a week not once a week. Trust me I am on TRT and if you want stable results and not a rollercoaster ride then split the dose up like I stated before.

[R2D1]

Here is why you take both twice a week not once a week. Trust me I am on TRT and if you want stable results and not a rollercoaster ride then split the dose up like I stated before.

Thanks for the that. I don't mind splitting them up to twice a week - but there's no way I'm taking a total of 900mg a week. My goals aren't to get huge. I finished a 350mg per week 12 week cycle a few moths ago and was happy with the results, the 400/mg per week is already more than I was planning based on my last cycle, but this time switching out the winstrol for Masteron.