Nolva use on 19-nor

[elidub81]

Hey there I’m new to the forum and looking for advice from the vets here. Hope it’s ok to post this here...I’m currently fighting a kidney bean size lump with 40mg nolva ed. I have Letro and raloxifene on hand also. I’m 8 weeks in my cycle and been doing the above nolva protocol for a week now.

First 4 weeks I ran T cyp 150 EOD, mast 100mg EOD, proviron 50mg ED, aromasin 50mg EOD,

Week 5 - current, added tren A @ 50mg EOD, caber .5mg E3D
My blood work at week 4 E2 @ 26.4 pg/ml, all other values were spot on.
No indication of gyno progression what so ever until I bumped my chest, felt pain, discovered mass. I started nolva right away @ 40mg ED for a week now. Meanwhile I’m researching the heck out of nolva while on 19-nor and proposed issues. I’ve learned enough that basically like anything else in this game, everyone is different and what works for some my not for others and it’s all a learning process as you go. With that said I know there is now black and white answer to reducing gyno while on tren, but wanted to pick some minds who been at it for a long time and has spent time dealing with this same issues. There is so many ways to go about this and I know the variables and consequences of letro and E2, raloxifene and nolva debate.... I’m looking to see how many peeps have had good luck shrinking lumps while on cycle and with what, how long, doses, etc. Or if everything above looks ok, then I will be patient and let nolva have time to work or battle it differently after cycle is over. Thanks in advance!


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[Obs]

Hey there I’m new to the forum and looking for advice from the vets here. Hope it’s ok to post this here...I’m currently fighting a kidney bean size lump with 40mg nolva ed. I have Letro and raloxifene on hand also. I’m 8 weeks in my cycle and been doing the above nolva protocol for a week now.

First 4 weeks I ran T cyp 150 EOD, mast 100mg EOD, proviron 50mg ED, aromasin 50mg EOD,

Week 5 - current, added tren A @ 50mg EOD, caber .5mg E3D
My blood work at week 4 E2 @ 26.4 pg/ml, all other values were spot on.
No indication of gyno progression what so ever until I bumped my chest, felt pain, discovered mass. I started nolva right away @ 40mg ED for a week now. Meanwhile I’m researching the heck out of nolva while on 19-nor and proposed issues. I’ve learned enough that basically like anything else in this game, everyone is different and what works for some my not for others and it’s all a learning process as you go. With that said I know there is now black and white answer to reducing gyno while on tren, but wanted to pick some minds who been at it for a long time and has spent time dealing with this same issues. There is so many ways to go about this and I know the variables and consequences of letro and E2, raloxifene and nolva debate.... I’m looking to see how many peeps have had good luck shrinking lumps while on cycle and with what, how long, doses, etc. Or if everything above looks ok, then I will be patient and let nolva have time to work or battle it differently after cycle is over. Thanks in advance!


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I have a little experience on the subject.

40 mg is too much.
Maybe 20mg if you are very gyno prone.

What you should expect...

Week 1-2 lump begins to soften
Week 2-3 lump becomes smaller and softer
Week 3-4 lump should be very soft and small as if disintegrating

Week 4-6 lump should disappear.

You may want to consider adding nolva to every cycle start to finish at 10mg per day. I had to until I discovered that masteron basically counteracts any gyno effects I may have.

Bear in mind I do not run AI but have laid out similar protocols for people with natural gyno their entire adult life and it cured at a similar rate as above.

I would cut the dose in half to 20mg per day though.

[Obs]

Please keep us posted on the results.
I like to keep note of these things to help others in the future.

[elidub81]

I have a little experience on the subject.

40 mg is too much.
Maybe 20mg if you are very gyno prone.

What you should expect...

Week 1-2 lump begins to soften
Week 2-3 lump becomes smaller and softer
Week 3-4 lump should be very soft and small as if disintegrating

Week 4-6 lump should disappear.

You may want to consider adding nolva to every cycle start to finish at 10mg per day. I had to until I discovered that masteron basically counteracts any gyno effects I may have.

Bear in mind I do not run AI but have laid out similar protocols for people with natural gyno their entire adult life and it cured at a similar rate as above.

I would cut the dose in half to 20mg per day though.

Thank you for the reply and certainly good advice as I did cut it back to 20mg after a week @ 40mg and I should have noted that. Thanks again!


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[Obs]

Just to clarify my improper explanation, when I said I don't run AI, I mean I am not estrogen sensitive. Once I started higher dosages with no AI though I had no choice but to add nolva on cycle at 10mg per day to stave off gyno.

I keep high levels of estrogen because I can reap the anabolic benefits with no real ill effect other than sliw creeping gyno in my right nipple.
A smart guy recommended I try masteron and I was lucky enough that when I dropped the nolva and ran a heavy cycle with masteron, it counteracted the gyno issue.

I see you are on masteron so obviously you werent so lucky.

I must say though you are wise in no throwing high doses of AI at the problem like so many do.
You are definitely doing the right thing by using nolva on cycle though.

[elidub81]

Just to clarify my improper explanation, when I said I don't run AI, I mean I am not estrogen sensitive. Once I started higher dosages with no AI though I had no choice but to add nolva on cycle at 10mg per day to stave off gyno.

I keep high levels of estrogen because I can reap the anabolic benefits with no real ill effect other than sliw creeping gyno in my right nipple.
A smart guy recommended I try masteron and I was lucky enough that when I dropped the nolva and ran a heavy cycle with masteron, it counteracted the gyno issue.

I see you are on masteron so obviously you werent so lucky.

I must say though you are wise in no throwing high doses of AI at the problem like so many do.
You are definitely doing the right thing by using nolva on cycle though.

Thank you and I think I’ll be patient with the nolva to see if it helps. I feel great and don’t want to change much at this point. I appreciate the reply and encouragement.


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