Sub-q working really well

[Test Monsterone]

I posted on here sometime last year that I did a .4 mL shot of test Cyp in my belly fat and that it ended up growing, feeling itchy, and looking like a big worm was under my skin.

On a lower dose (0.25 mL), over the last 3 shots, I haven't had any problems. Don't feel anything but a little itchiness right after injecting. It's either the dosage or the compounds. I can't remember if I was using the same brand...

The only thing that blows is getting the oil in these little 30 gauge insulin syringes with non-removable needles. Takes a good 5 minutes to load. Injection time isn't too bad, but requires some pressure.

I have to say it feels great not needing to inject inject into a muscle. I will start experimenting with injecting in other fatty places like the love handles, as now I'm taking 4 shots a week in the belly alone (including HCG).

[HDThunder]

Pull the plunger and back load the slin pin from a larger needle. It avoids the ridiculously long draw time.

[gymffiti]

I don't see the need to pin IM, unless I get super lean

Oh & yeah, as HDThunder says, back loading insulin syringes is an option

[Test Monsterone]

I don't know what you guys mean by backloading. I can't remove the needle from these syringes. Do you mean putting air in the vial? I do that every time.

[gymffiti]

I don't know what you guys mean by backloading. I can't remove the needle from these syringes. Do you mean putting air in the vial? I do that every time.

Basically, you use a bigger needle & syringe to draw the oil from the vial.
Pull the plunger right out the back of your insulin syringe (it feels wrong the first time)
Then squirt the oil into the back of your insulin syringe

I don't know this guy. This is just one of a number of back loading tutorials on youtube

https://youtu.be/52kEHcp5PKA

Putting the plunging back in and removing the air, is the delicate part

[Jayd85]

I don't know what you guys mean by backloading. I can't remove the needle from these syringes. Do you mean putting air in the vial? I do that every time.

Pull the plunger and load it from the top instead of through the needle.

[Test Monsterone]

Oh damn, didn't think of that. In the 1 mL syringes I use, with very small amounts, I don't think this would work too well. The oil sticks to the sides and doesn't let the air pass. Good to know for the future.

[Painjunky]

I use a 1/2” 29 gauge slin needle into the quads. Super easy ! Takes about 45seconds to load the pin with 40mg.

[Ashop]

I get tired of the daily injections. I have had days where I just forgot to do them. I'm sticking to my IM injects 2 x per week.

[Test Monsterone]

I get tired of the daily injections. I have had days where I just forgot to do them. I'm sticking to my IM injects 2 x per week.

Who said anything about daily injections? We’re talking about sub cutaneous injections.

[GearHeaded]

The only thing that blows is getting the oil in these little 30 gauge insulin syringes with non-removable needles. Takes a good 5 minutes to load. Injection time isn't too bad, but requires some pressure.

getting 28g 1/2 inch 1cc insulin pins and back loading them is going to make your life so so much easier then what your doing.. you can quickly load up like 10 insulin pins in a manner of minutes and then have them sitting there ready to go anytime you need to inject. and 28g makes injecting the oil much smoother and quicker as well.

I have to say it feels great not needing to inject inject into a muscle. I will start experimenting with injecting in other fatty places like the love handles, as now I'm taking 4 shots a week in the belly alone (including HCG).

are you sure this is not just 'mental' . perhaps less stress using an insulin pin to inject with rather then a big 3cc syringe. I don't see how injecting oil into fatty tissue feels any better then injecting oil into muscle (I've done both and definitely prefer muscle).

Why not just use insulin pins for your inter muscular injections as well ? it will likely feel the same or even better then injecting into fat , imo.
I've been using insulin pins to inject into my delts, biceps, triceps, and pecs, for years . its such a small needle, it really feels like nothing (between the 4 insulin shots per day, hgh, and peptides I often run, my stomach gets enough injections already) .

an insulin pin to the front delt or bicep is just as easy and convenient as one to belly fat. its worth a try

[GearHeaded]

Who said anything about daily injections? We’re talking about sub cutaneous injections.

he my of assumed daily injections just because this is the steroid area and not the TRT area.. so if guys are running a bodybuilder dosage cycle (25-30ml of gear per week) but using 1ml insulin pins and sub q injections , then that means 30 injections per week which makes sense that you'd likely be doing injections daily (4 per day actually)

[Couchlockd]

I've been drawing my trt with 31g slin pins.

It's not instant, but it's less than a minute

Granted it's only .25 to .5 ml

[Test Monsterone]

are you sure this is not just 'mental' . perhaps less stress using an insulin pin to inject with rather then a big 3cc syringe. I don't see how injecting oil into fatty tissue feels any better then injecting oil into muscle (I've done both and definitely prefer muscle).

Why not just use insulin pins for your inter muscular injections as well ? it will likely feel the same or even better then injecting into fat , imo.
I've been using insulin pins to inject into my delts, biceps, triceps, and pecs, for years . its such a small needle, it really feels like nothing (between the 4 insulin shots per day, hgh, and peptides I often run, my stomach gets enough injections already) .

an insulin pin to the front delt or bicep is just as easy and convenient as one to belly fat. its worth a try

Well there's no (or at least much less) chance of hitting a vein or a nerve. I haven't tried the 30 gauge on a muscle yet... but I'm only trying it this way for TRT. Like I was saying, anything more than a TRT dose and I have to use a muscle. I just ordered a bunch of 25 gauge needles - so I'll be using those on cycle. With these types of needles, 1/3 times I'll bleed from my shoulders or ass. I also get pain occasionally. In the thigh, interestingly, I get no pain or blood if I do it in the right spot.

I remember you telling me about all the spots I can pin. I haven't had the courage, or need I guess, to travel outside the delts, glutes, and thighs. Then again I'm not running as many compounds as you. The 27 gauge needle sounds interesting... Don't remember seeing that one a lot. Seems like there is a jump from 25 to 29 in the online shops, but maybe I just wasn't seeing it before.

Thanks for the tips as always.

[Test Monsterone]

I've been drawing my trt with 31g slin pins.

It's not instant, but it's less than a minute

Granted it's only .25 to .5 ml

1 minute?!? That's not bad at all.... maybe it's just my crappy Nipro syringes/needles that are the problem. It's taking me literally 5 minutes to load 0.25ml. It comes in in tiny little drips and then it sort of bubbles up and takes a while to settle down to where the bubbles disappear. I got an unopened box with Excel syringes and needles, which I hope are better. I couldn't find anyone carrying BD or some of the other top ones. All were out of order or I needed to be a legit pharmacy, etc. to buy.

Do you do your TRT IM or SubQ? Have you tried Sub Q?

[Couchlockd]

1 minute?!? That's not bad at all.... maybe it's just my crappy Nipro syringes/needles that are the problem. It's taking me literally 5 minutes to load 0.25ml. It comes in in tiny little drips and then it sort of bubbles up and takes a while to settle down to where the bubbles disappear. I got an unopened box with Excel syringes and needles, which I hope are better. I couldn't find anyone carrying BD or some of the other top ones. All were out of order or I needed to be a legit pharmacy, etc. to buy.

Do you do your TRT IM or SubQ? Have you tried Sub Q?

I'm 1" into delt and biceps

I'm using b&d 31g .3ml pins thin wall needle design.
.supposed to have flow of 29g.

Nippro is very good.

Do you pump air into vial first

When I draw .3ml, I out a full ml of air into vial to stop vacuum

[Test Monsterone]

I'm 1" into delt and biceps

I'm using b&d 31g .3ml pins thin wall needle design.
.supposed to have flow of 29g.

Nippro is very good.

Do you pump air into vial first

When I draw .3ml, I out a full ml of air into vial to stop vacuum

Yup I always pump in air into the vial first, but only 1:1 ratio. You’re saying you put in 3:1 air to oil, maybe that will help.

Honestly I don’t know why but these plungers stick a lot and not even with anything in the barrel. Some guys were saying they might be old, which may be right cause the packaging of the syringes is kind of warped.

Also tbh I didn’t even think they made 1” 31 gauge needles. I only use 1” on the glutes and 5/8” everywhere else’s

[Couchlockd]

Yup I always pump in air into the vial first, but only 1:1 ratio. You’re saying you put in 3:1 air to oil, maybe that will help.

Honestly I don’t know why but these plungers stick a lot and not even with anything in the barrel. Some guys were saying they might be old, which may be right cause the packaging of the syringes is kind of warped.

Also tbh I didn’t even think they made 1” 31 gauge needles. I only use 1” on the glutes and 5/8” everywhere else’s

That should of said 1/2”

Autocorrect got me

[fiddlesticks]

subq works very good just gotta make sure not to pin alot in one area or else the lump will be horrid

[Luttrj]

Yall are saying pin test sub-q correct?
I always thought teat needed to be IM to be absorbed correctly. Never heard of sub-q test but I'm willing to give it a shot badadump

[fiddlesticks]

Yall are saying pin test sub-q correct?
I always thought teat needed to be IM to be absorbed correctly. Never heard of sub-q test but I'm willing to give it a shot badadump

One would imagine more test would become E2 but not sure how this works.

If you pin high concentration gear subq at any amount above like .5cc in one spot you're gonna have one hell of a bad time. The result is a lump that's an absurd size for how much oil volume was put it. That lump requires lots of bloodflow and will generally make you feel like shit.

[Couchlockd]

Yall are saying pin test sub-q correct?
I always thought teat needed to be IM to be absorbed correctly. Never heard of sub-q test but I'm willing to give it a shot badadump

No saying to , but it can be done and has been done with no I'll effects

I really never get lumps.
.I've pinned test base (oil) sub q,test 500( tiny lump) and lots of things sub.

I really think it's more about how your body reacts to particular solvents and carrier oils used

But also I never pin with draw needle, swab area 2x for 30 seconds with 91% alcohol soaked paper towels.

[HoldMyBeer]

No saying to , but it can be done and has been done with no I'll effects

I really never get lumps.
.I've pinned test base (oil) sub q,test 500( tiny lump) and lots of things sub.

I really think it's more about how your body reacts to particular solvents and carrier oils used

But also I never pin with draw needle, swab area 2x for 30 seconds with 91% alcohol soaked paper towels.

Hey couch,
Is it subq if I inject in the glutes, but there is more fat than the length of the needle? [emoji1787]

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[Couchlockd]

Hey couch,
Is it subq if I inject in the glutes, but there is more fat than the length of the needle? [emoji1787]

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Yes it is.

[5millionbucks]

anyone do bloodwork with sub q vs im? I hear people getting lower test levels doing sub q vs im while on trt.