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Afternoon....
Freaked out as I pulled the pin out of Delt and blood ran out down my forearm. I am in high elevation, so I've been taking aspirin. I didnt aspirate, but will do so here on out. Arm is a little sore.
Shot a little over .5cc Test Cyp
Thoughts on if I passed through vein or injected into. Didnt get a cough....
Anything I should do post?
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Has nothing to do with aspirating. Nurses aren't taught to aspirate anymore.Originally Posted by parkrangerlovell
Thin blood? Possible
Alcohol in blood? Possible
Too shallow? Possible, pin deeper.
Pulled pin too fast? Leave pin in arm for 15+ seconds after pushing all oil. Let it soak in.
Nothing to do now. Alcohol swab the area, add band-aid if concerned. What's done is done.
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Where on delt & what size/gauge needle?
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No drama at all, you just past through a small vain. It can happen anytime. Just always aspirate so you know you are not IN! a vain before you pin.
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I would still advice to aspirate , call me old fashioned but I don't want the oil go through my heart
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My daughter is in nursing school now and said she was taught to aspirate. So guess it's different depending on teachers.
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lol , if you could get a 25g needle straight into a vein within a muscle an inject oil into it ,, you could probably win the lotto 3 times in a row. no matter how hard you try your not going to be able to inject into a vein , let alone by accident.I would still advice to aspirate , call me old fashioned but I don't want the oil go through my heart
10 years of running gear.. thousands of injections from glutes, quads, biceps, triceps, chest, lats, delts, etc.. I've never once aspirated. its completely unnecessary and actually causing more PIP and trauma to the injection site (plus its the pain if your injecting yourself one handed).
the odds of accidentally injecting oil into a vein are probably similar to winning the lotto, going to the beach the same day to celebrate, getting your leg bit off by a shark, making it to the shore, then getting struck by lightning.
personally , I'd definitely be more worried about that happening then injecting into a vein , thats why I don't play the lotto or go to the beach
Last edited by GearHeaded; 08-29-2019 at 08:44 AM.
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my delts shoot like hell man.
its hit or miss. I have had some quad shots where my wife thought i was going to die and im just laughing.
blood happens
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It goes back and forth in the nursing schools it seems. Older nurses were taught to aspirate, then younger nurses were taught it wasn't necessary, and now it's being taught again.
Doesn't take but a second and causes me no grief do I do it.
LOL, scar tissue is my main issue!
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Mid delt, 25 g 5/8
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I’m a medic an GH is right. The angle you pin for IM injection is not conducive to injecting into a vein. You may go through one but u doubt it would be in the perfect position to inject into it. But I still aspirate.
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Mid delt 25 g 5/8
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How come no one has pointed out him pinning only 100-150mg of test cyp? If you are on only long estered compounds, you only need to pin twice a week, and I would be shootin in the gluts, not the delts. What's your cycle you are running? Maybe we can help you out more than just answering your blood question - to which my answer is - suck it up buttercup, it happens.
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No on the aspiration in nursing school curriculum. I'm in my last semester for BSN. Not aspirating is a standard set forth by all national nursing bodies. However, when I pin myself in any place that I don't usually use, I aspirate.
No disrespect to anyone, the non-aspiration is the current practice. Perhaps your daughter has the good fortune to have faculty who are not mindless robots?
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Furthermore, there is no reason to pin test IM. (Unless you have been pinning IM till now and you are a perfectionist who worries about the change in time of delivery.) Pin in subcutaneous fat, more advantageous. Local pinning doesn't effect the muscle, test is a hormone, all hormone are slow acting. There is no spiritual mumbo-jumbo about it, respect the science. The only possible advantage is the few minutes to hours it takes your body to absorb while your muscle stays inflated, mechanically, from the extra (.5mL) liquid.
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this I agree with to a point , but is really person dependent . I personally find it much easier to pin a delt, a bicep, my pecs, etc.. then to find a bit of fat somewhere and pinch and pin that. my bicep and delts are super lean.. I just point shoot and stab and I'm done. way easier then pinching fat somewhere under my shirt (and in either case I can still use a slin pin).
sub q works just fine . but for some guys like myself, pinning in a bicep or front delt is actually easier (sub q takes two hands for me to accomplish, where a bicep inject only takes one hand)
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^^We are of like mind. My logic is that Sub Q is less vascularized and there are no local effects from shooting IM. It might be harder for OP to go sub-q than it is for me, I have plenty to aim for. In that case, he should google IM injection spots. And, just penetrate the muscle, aspirate (not totally necessary if he puts it into the right spot), push real slow, leave the needle there for extra time and remove slow.
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two nursing students chimed in on this thread.. on a side note ,, my oldest son just started nursing school this week. he will have plenty of practice with injection protocols , I'll be his pin cushion,, heck he can even practice phlebotomy skills on me
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Brother, we are all pin-cushions, at least we know and accept it.
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Hopefully, he is wise enough to use you as a resource. And, stay cool. It isn't that hard, it is the female dominated world and cultural shock that grinds. Your son is a lucky kid.
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The best is when the blood squirts out a solid 3-4” in a continues stream
Seen em all - I think, by now
Bent needles, muscle twitches, nerves, shot into veins, shot out of veins, muscle spasms, bent needles - you name it
When the wife hit my sciatic nerve - now that was memorable
A little blood
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I just shot...
10 ml, part of that was suspension.
I aint doing sub q and I gotta stop skipping injections.
I have poked through veins a lot. One time I pulled it from glute and sprayed blood across the room.
I have bled a hundered times.
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Hahahhaha nice put, I definitely can relate with the difficulty of aspirating when giving yourself the shotlol , ifdon't play the lotto or go to the beach
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Wtf? You just pinned 10ml!?!?? Of what? And where? Never heard of anyone pinning that much at once
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For the people on TRT and using Aveed, you will probably notice that the nurse does aspirate. That's due to the location of the injection and the volume. It's part of the federally mandated Aveed REMS.
Kel probably stated it best. Nebido was bought to the US with a 1000mg/1g injection protocol. Somewhere in the trials someone coughed so the FDA did their magic and cut the dosage.
This is a brief overview:
REMS | AVEED® (testosterone undecanoate) injection CIII
Somewhere on their site they actually have the provider injection instructions.
Just throwing that out there while we're on the subject of aspirating. So, you will encounter aspiration at some healthcare providers simply out of habit.
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let me introduce you to OBS
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3ml tren E 250
4ml test c 250
1ml tren base
2ml Ment
Didnt need the tren but life is hell and so am I.
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This is just TRT.... I do shoot 2 times a week. Rotate between glutes and shoulder. I'm fine. Shoulder sore still. Glutes, no pain or minimal blood
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This is just TRT.... I do shoot 2 times a week. Rotate between glutes and shoulder. I'm fine. Shoulder sore still. Glutes, no pain or minimal blood
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Sounds like you may need to lay off of delts for a bit. Also, consider Z tracking/ pulling the skin to one side before injection. It will help minimize any leakage.
For TRT dosages, sub-Q is popular with some of the guys. I prefer IM in quads, glutes, triceps, and pecs, but that's just me.
Occasionally, you may just hit at a bad angle. Like Billy Bob Thornton said in Bad Santa.....they can't all be winners.
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No joke!
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Mother of God.....!
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Go hard or go home. Wish I had the same steel balls as this dude. Maybe one day I’ll be on that level lol. Mad props to you OBS! Life is a motherfucker that’s for damn sure. Almost just split with the love of my life and my cycle ends in 2 weeks fml.
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Do you use the 10cc syringes from tractor supply?
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No.
I tried and they are nearly impossible to get oil out of. They draw awesome but its near impossible to inject umless using a 20 guage pin
I dont have many much balls they shrunk a lot.
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