Does EQ increase collagen synthesis?

[Zikka]

Hey guys

Does anyone here know if EQ help increase collagen synthesis? Also, I read the testosterone decrease collagen synthesis. Is there any truth too that?

The reason for my questions is because I have a bicep tendonitis. So if I increase my collagen synthesis, that would speed up recovery, right?

Currently crusin on Test E 250mg ew

[GearHeaded]

yes .

but thats irrelevant in your situation. tendonitis is from over use, repetitive movement patterns, and ichronic nflammation. no amount of collagen synthesis is going to fix tendonitis.

increasing collagen synthesis after a mechanical or structural issue is beneficial.. like after a surgery or acute structural injury.
totally different thing then tendonitis

[Zikka]

yes .

but thats irrelevant in your situation. tendonitis is from over use, repetitive movement patterns, and ichronic nflammation. no amount of collagen synthesis is going to fix tendonitis.

increasing collagen synthesis after a mechanical or structural issue is beneficial.. like after a surgery or acute structural injury.
totally different thing then tendonitis

Thanks for answering. I actually dont know if it's a small tendon tear or tendonitis. But I guess it makes no difference?

[GearHeaded]

where does it hurt, when does it hurt, and what movement patterns aggravate the area ?

[Zikka]

where does it hurt, when does it hurt, and what movement patterns aggravate the area ?

I had a break from training for about 2 weeks. When I started training again, I did a light warm up and started doing pull ups. By the end of 3 set my front shoulder started to hurt. It hurts from the front shoulder and down the arm.

It hurts when I move the arm up. For example, when bending the arm in front of me and move the elbow upwards (not sure if that makes sense)

Also hurts when doing cable crossover and barbell bench press.

[Zikka]

Basically it hurts when doing most overhead movements

[kelkel]

I had a break from training for about 2 weeks. When I started training again, I did a light warm up and started doing pull ups. By the end of 3 set my front shoulder started to hurt. It hurts from the front shoulder and down the arm.

It hurts when I move the arm up. For example, when bending the arm in front of me and move the elbow upwards (not sure if that makes sense)

Also hurts when doing cable crossover and barbell bench press.

Hard to tell as pain radiates. Bicep tendon maybe?

[Krb367]

I had a break from training for about 2 weeks. When I started training again, I did a light warm up and started doing pull ups. By the end of 3 set my front shoulder started to hurt. It hurts from the front shoulder and down the arm.

It hurts when I move the arm up. For example, when bending the arm in front of me and move the elbow upwards (not sure if that makes sense)

Also hurts when doing cable crossover and barbell bench press.

I get/did get the same shit. Barbell press aggravates tf out of it. Pull ups especially. You’re gonna have to lay off the things that piss it off and find other ways to work the specific muscle you’re targeting.. I promise it will only get worse, coming from experience. It got so bad one time, I couldn’t even pick up a pipe wrench at work. There’s a lot of repetitive movements I go through on the drilling rig and even just twisting a nut and bolt was painful. But that’s from me being dumb and not giving af, lifting weights just enough that it “didn’t hurt too bad” and then going to work that night.

Could also be a rotator cuff issue.

[Zikka]

Hard to tell as pain radiates. Bicep tendon maybe?

I think so ��

[Zikka]

I get/did get the same shit. Barbell press aggravates tf out of it. Pull ups especially. You’re gonna have to lay off the things that piss it off and find other ways to work the specific muscle you’re targeting.. I promise it will only get worse, coming from experience. It got so bad one time, I couldn’t even pick up a pipe wrench at work. There’s a lot of repetitive movements I go through on the drilling rig and even just twisting a nut and bolt was painful. But that’s from me being dumb and not giving af, lifting weights just enough that it “didn’t hurt too bad” and then going to work that night.

Could also be a rotator cuff issue.

Yeah. After it happened I took a 2 week break and the pain went away. I then started training again and all exercises feelt fine. I then did the cable crossover and boom! Started to hurt again!

Took another break until pain was gone. Went back to training and all exercises feelt fine, but barbell bench press made it hurt again again!

So I think that I can perform most exercises except barbell bench bress and cable crossover.

It's funny though, when I did dumbbell incline bench press I had no pain at all. So I might be able to do bench presses but only with dumbbels

[Krb367]

Welcome to the club lol

I can tell you, coincidence or not, this deca cycle that I’ve been on I have zero tendinitis pain.

[Zikka]

Welcome to the club lol

I can tell you, coincidence or not, this deca cycle that I’ve been on I have zero tendinitis pain.

But Deca is only masking the pain, right?
I was thinking about adding a therapeutic dose of Deca 100 mg ew on top of my trt.

Btw. are you able to do dumbbel presses without pain?

Also, can anyone confirm that Testosterone decrease collagen synthesis?

[Gallowmere]

But Deca is only masking the pain, right?
I was thinking about adding a therapeutic dose of Deca 100 mg ew on top of my trt.

Btw. are you able to do dumbbel presses without pain?

Also, can anyone confirm that Testosterone decrease collagen synthesis?

Deca has no directly analgesic properties, so I’m not sure where this “masking” thing comes from. If it’s acting as an anti-inflammatory, that’s not masking. That’s blunting a physiological overreaction.
It’s kinda like comparing NSAIDS to opiates. One is kicking down inflammatory response. The other is deadening nerve response. If not for NSAID’s notable liver and stomach problems, they’d be absolutely fantastic.

[GearHeaded]

But Deca is only masking the pain, right?

Gallow is right.. there is no "masking the pain" with deca. it does not work by blunting pain receptors. it has actual anti inflammatory and healing benefits. its blunting the pain because its actually regenerating and healing.
this is why Deca is used in hospitals to treat burn victims as well as a host of other conditions including post surgery healing.. also why its used in veterinary medicine to help speed up the healing process of injured animals.

unlike pain meds, deca itself is actually accomplishing healing to some degree.


over the years I've had numerous surgeries and injuries. the last couple surgeries I had were lumbar spine surgeries. from the hips up a few vertebrae I'm held together by a bunch of screws, brackets, and bolts (the discs have been removed).
my surgeon nick named me 'Wolverine' because he's never seen anyone heal so fast..
I went in for back surgery (which had been operated on a couple times before). got cut open sawed on etc.. then had to go back in about 10 days later for a much more major operation. when they went to cut open the existing scar and get through all the muscle and bone they were amazed at how much it had already healed in only 10 days. and then also after the surgery going in for my monthly check ups and x-rays to make sure all the screws and brackets were staying in place the doc was surprised at how fast I was healing.

I was taking 250mg of Deca before and after the surgeries. also 4iu of HGH.. I'm guessing this played a role on how fast I healed.

[GearHeaded]

another example of the healing properties of deca..

I was in a "knife fight" and ended up having to get reconstructive hand surgery to re attach and sew up tendons.
heres the before pic with what should of left a nasty scar

of course I added deca to help me heal and this is the after pic

[Zikka]

Gallow is right.. there is no "masking the pain" with deca. it does not work by blunting pain receptors. it has actual anti inflammatory and healing benefits. its blunting the pain because its actually regenerating and healing.
this is why Deca is used in hospitals to treat burn victims as well as a host of other conditions including post surgery healing.. also why its used in veterinary medicine to help speed up the healing process of injured animals.

unlike pain meds, deca itself is actually accomplishing healing to some degree.


over the years I've had numerous surgeries and injuries. the last couple surgeries I had were lumbar spine surgeries. from the hips up a few vertebrae I'm held together by a bunch of screws, brackets, and bolts (the discs have been removed).
my surgeon nick named me 'Wolverine' because he's never seen anyone heal so fast..
I went in for back surgery (which had been operated on a couple times before). got cut open sawed on etc.. then had to go back in about 10 days later for a much more major operation. when they went to cut open the existing scar and get through all the muscle and bone they were amazed at how much it had already healed in only 10 days. and then also after the surgery going in for my monthly check ups and x-rays to make sure all the screws and brackets were staying in place the doc was surprised at how fast I was healing.

I was taking 250mg of Deca before and after the surgeries. also 4iu of HGH.. I'm guessing this played a role on how fast I healed.

That's awesome..

So would 100 mg. Deca ew. be sufficient in helping speed up my recovery?

[Gallowmere]

That's awesome..

So would 100 mg. Deca ew. be sufficient in helping speed up my recovery?

That’s my HRT nandrolone dose, alongside my 100mg test.
Within a month I noticed that a lot of my old soft tissue problems (plantar fasciitis, and hip pain) were mostly gone.

[Gallowmere]

Actually, after thinking about it some, I am pretty sure I do know where the “masking” thing came from.

Scenario:
-lifter is having pain at a joint.
-lifter stops training it in a way that hurts for a bit.
-healing starts.
-lifter hears Deca will help with joints and introduces it.
-healing accelerates.
-pain goes away within a couple of weeks.
-lifter goes back to doing the shit that was injuring him to begin with.
-lifter is surprised when the shit finally tears.
-lifter says Deca wasn’t healing anything, but “masking the pain”.

[Arcânn]

Damn, I wish I'd known about deca before tearing my pectoral tendon. Maybe I wouldn't still have problems today. Or maybe I'd have injured it again. Who knows