Looks like 750mg test is the magic number. Abs are gone and I'm up 10 pounds from the start but I’m embracing the fluff. My upper body has never looked this full and dare I say my delts are starting to get that juiced look. Not sure of bodyfat at this point but I'm gonna continue at 3800 cals. Don’t want to creep into the 20’s as far as bodyfat but I am finally gaining on a split that gear posted. Thanks gear!!!!![]()