1 gram of protein per lb seems unrealistic

[Test Monsterone]

This rule of thumb has been around as long as I can remember.

Here is why I think it is not very doable:

The body cannot consume more than 25-30 grams of protein per sitting.

If you eat six meals with 30 grams of protein, you still only get 180 grams. Someone like me that is 240-250 lbs would need 8 meals to reach that quota.

I have never had 8 complete meals per day in my entire life. If these meals were balanced, I would be eating a ton of carbs and fats too, just to reach the protein requirement.

I calculated a meal of protein lentil pasta with lean ground beef and it comes in at around 550 calories for 30 grams of protein.

I would be obese if I had to eat this much food. I’m already trying to cut and I’m not eating anywhere near 1 g of protein per lb.

So yeah, I just don’t think this amount of protein is doable unless you literally eat meat all day long and not much else.

[Livinlean]

So what are you basing the 30 grams of protein per sitting from? FYI thats complete BS. Post any study showing this, you won't find any.

You think 550 cals for 30 grams of protein x 6 meals which is about 3000 cals is going to make you obese? Bro, if you can't burn 3000 cals then you ain't working hard enough. It's literally that simple. I've noticed since I started monitoring my workouts and driving intensity up, the hunger spikes are crazy. If you create a stimulus then your body will react accordingly.

Meal 1
90g cream of rice
1 egg
1 cup egg whites
1 scoop protein
-- 60g protein

Meal 2
200g white rice
6oz chicken
1/2 avocado
-- 47g protein

Meal 3
200g white rice
8oz chicken thighs
-- 50g protein

Above are very, very easy meals to get down. I didn't include the rest that I add to these meals to keep me full but I didn't want to overwhelm you with the food one needs to consume to truly grow.

If one were to take meal 2 and meal 3 and do the same ones later in the day, you have an easy 250g diet right there without any powders. Now you add the powders post workout and personally I do it before bed as my stomach does better with lighter meals before bed and now you've got closer to 1.5g.

[Livinlean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6mSQVThOa8

A video posted on dave palumbos RX muscle detailing the benefits of high protein diets. There's 3 parts that can be found on his channel.

[AR's King Silabolin]

I saw Jerry Brainum say the same thing. Max 20-30 g.
But how come every big ripped guy consume at least 250 g. Often much more.
Must be a missing link.

But its very easy. Do the same for 6 weeks at 180 g.
Then do the same for another 6 weeks at 280 g. Which take works more.
All of a sudden you have the scientific 100% correct answer for you, no matter what the doc s, Palumbo, Brainum, bros etc say.

Calories should be the same. When upping pro, u lower carbs.

My take is adding.
When u start a cycle or a new program start low, the add f. i. 20 g each day every week.
I feel its the same as steroids. Body gets used to the dose. Then shock it. Change up. Increase. More.

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[GearHeaded]

This rule of thumb has been around as long as I can remember.

Here is why I think it is not very doable:

The body cannot consume more than 25-30 grams of protein per sitting.

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your basing your entire argument on bullshit.. its a false presumption .

25 gram of protein all you can absorb in a sitting ,, lol. give me a break.
thats like 4 eggs is all .
my wife, my teenage daughters can down 16 oz of steak (100 grams or protein) at a night out to Outback Steakhouse .. no poblem in a single sitting. easily.

you really don't think a damn full grown man can't assimilate more then 25 grams of protein in a single sitting.. thats ridiculous.


look at the 600 pound lion.. when he eat he eats 10,000 grams of protein in a single seating. easily.. and he is big and bad.
look at the shark ,, 20, 000 grams of protein in one meal and grows to be 2500 pounds.

ye we mere mortal men can only assimilate 25 grams of protein at time..
lol,, biggest bullshit ever told in history

[GearHeaded]

some other people agree with me

[Gallowmere]

The whole stupid ass “30g at a time” thing is based on the spike to MPS (and that assumes that the 30g consists of nigh perfect ratios of needed amino acids). As has been shown multiple times, MPS is a stupid fucking endpoint metric, because your body uses amino acids for thousands of biological functions.
Knowing how the body tends to do things in the adaptation realm, for people who are constantly resistance training and recovering from it, MPS is not going to be the final endpoint anyway, so coming up short on protein will have you coming up short in some enzymatic processes and the like. I wouldn’t go so far as to speculate that the body will ignore replacement for organ cell turnover in favor of MPS in hard training individuals, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it ended up being the case.

[Eduke93]

This rule of thumb has been around as long as I can remember.

Here is why I think it is not very doable:

The body cannot consume more than 25-30 grams of protein per sitting.

If you eat six meals with 30 grams of protein, you still only get 180 grams. Someone like me that is 240-250 lbs would need 8 meals to reach that quota.

I have never had 8 complete meals per day in my entire life. If these meals were balanced, I would be eating a ton of carbs and fats too, just to reach the protein requirement.

I calculated a meal of protein lentil pasta with lean ground beef and it comes in at around 550 calories for 30 grams of protein.

I would be obese if I had to eat this much food. I’m already trying to cut and I’m not eating anywhere near 1 g of protein per lb.

So yeah, I just don’t think this amount of protein is doable unless you literally eat meat all day long and not much else.

Protein absorption/utilisation differs subject to genetics... Activity and steroid use also play a part in this...

[AR's King Silabolin]

your basing your entire argument on bullshit.. its a false presumption .

25 gram of protein all you can absorb in a sitting ,, lol. give me a break.
thats like 4 eggs is all .
my wife, my teenage daughters can down 16 oz of steak (100 grams or protein) at a night out to Outback Steakhouse .. no poblem in a single sitting. easily.

you really don't think a damn full grown man can't assimilate more then 25 grams of protein in a single sitting.. thats ridiculous.


look at the 600 pound lion.. when he eat he eats 10,000 grams of protein in a single seating. easily.. and he is big and bad.
look at the shark ,, 20, 000 grams of protein in one meal and grows to be 2500 pounds.

ye we mere mortal men can only assimilate 25 grams of protein at time..
lol,, biggest bullshit ever told in history

Guess ur rigth, but even if your daugher CAN eat 100gs of protein in one meal, it doesn't mean her body use all of it for maintence and growth.
And Jerry Brainum says the same shit. And he already wrote for M and F when u were sucking your moms nipples, lol... Sorry bro, just the way we put it around her[emoji6]
And i maintain my strength easily with 150 g.
For 95% of the people 180 g is more than enough.
But for a 220 + man who lifts heavy and wanna grow more, 300 and more might be it!

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[GearHeaded]

hmm , I wonder if my wimpy little frail body can assimilate this tiny little snack of 80 grams of protein in one sitting


a cup of egg whites, 5 whole eggs and two hamburger patties.. heck aint no way I could digest and assimilate this.
lol. don't worry the carbs are on the next plate

[The Deadlifting Dog]

my carbs are often time fruit...

I eat a lot of steak. Or protein of some sort.
I think even if we can only assimilate 20 or 30 or 50 or 80 grams of protien towards muscle building per meal...
any excess can be burned as fuel...
It may not be the most efficient "energy" source but...
It sure as helps keeping/gaining muscle.
And tastes good too.
add salt

[GearHeaded]

my carbs are often time fruit...

had a bunch of watermelon for desert

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Bought one Sunday? (I think)
Haven't cut her up yet.

Laziness is a fault.
Perhaps the 11th...

[Test Monsterone]

I read some more about this and it appears there are some caveats.

So the 25-30 gram max absorption thing is true for fast absorbing proteins like whey. Even whey takes 2 hours to absorb, so you can imagine red meat takes 6 hours or more.

I guess it depends on what kind of protein we’re talking about.

I would say that eating too much protein can cause more harm than good. I know a guy, a family friend, who got gout. He used to be big on meats. The uric acid in meats stores in different places like the joints, causing inflammation. It’s also bad for the kidneys.

Remember when Piana went on the rice diet shortly before he passed? And he used to load like 3 scoops of whey in his protein shakes. I’m sure the other shit he was doing had a big impact on his kidneys too, but he was obviously told to stop eating so much protein and limit it to one meal a day for a reason.

[RaginCajun]

I read some more about this and it appears there are some caveats.

So the 25-30 gram max absorption thing is true for fast absorbing proteins like whey. Even whey takes 2 hours to absorb, so you can imagine red meat takes 6 hours or more.

I guess it depends on what kind of protein we’re talking about.

I would say that eating too much protein can cause more harm than good. I know a guy, a family friend, who got gout. He used to be big on meats. The uric acid in meats stores in different places like the joints, causing inflammation. It’s also bad for the kidneys.

Remember when Piana went on the rice diet shortly before he passed? And he used to load like 3 scoops of whey in his protein shakes. I’m sure the other shit he was doing had a big impact on his kidneys too, but he was obviously told to stop eating so much protein and limit it to one meal a day for a reason.

I mainly ate meat for a whole year and my blood work was good. Only values that were slightly elevated was Urea Nitrogen and BUN, which correlated to high protein and exercise.

If one isn’t competing, don’t mind fuck it with times, just eat

[GearHeaded]

I read some more about this and it appears there are some caveats.

So the 25-30 gram max absorption thing is true for fast absorbing proteins like whey. Even whey takes 2 hours to absorb, so you can imagine red meat takes 6 hours or more.

I guess it depends on what kind of protein we’re talking about.

I would say that eating too much protein can cause more harm than good. I know a guy, a family friend, who got gout. He used to be big on meats. The uric acid in meats stores in different places like the joints, causing inflammation. It’s also bad for the kidneys.

Remember when Piana went on the rice diet shortly before he passed? And he used to load like 3 scoops of whey in his protein shakes. I’m sure the other shit he was doing had a big impact on his kidneys too, but he was obviously told to stop eating so much protein and limit it to one meal a day for a reason.

whats often missed is the difference between "digestion" and "assimilation" ..
yeah eating a 16oz steak may take 6-8 hours for full digestion to take place . but that does not mean assimilation and hormonal responses are not taking place along the way..


think about it.
take 5 quick shots of whisky and tell me if you don't feel something 30 minutes later.
you don't have to wait 12 hours for the alcohol to digest and clear your system of its effects and assimilation to begin.

same with food.. there is quick direct effects that happen.
even the simple process of gastric emptying (when food goes through your stomach), certain hormones and responses in the body, like the release of insulin and Ghrelin, etc..

things "assimilate" much more efficiently then they fully "digest", and get put to use.


think about a diabetic how took too much insulin and his blood sugar is dropping and going hypo .. it only take 20 mins and he is fine after having some carbs/sugar.
heck he would be dead if he actually had to wait for full digestion to take place.


the body can handle use assimilate digest etc. much more then we think it can.
the idea of only 20g of protein in one sitting is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever heard imo

stupid false studies tell me I can't eat more then four eggs in one sitting (I,e 20g protein)..
meanwhile Jay Cutler is eating 100g of protein in each meal 6x per day and looks like this.

think Jay had it right , not the BS "studies"

[jstone]

The body can utilize much more than 20-30 grams per sitting. Who cares what jerry branium says, he has no studies to back it up. He is old as dirt and so is his information. All pros are consuming more than 20-30 grams per sitting. If you consume 50 grams of protein in a meal where is the other 20 going? The body is far to efficient to just waste nutrients it can put to use. The body doesnt use 30 grams and then say i cant use anymore protein. It will use what its fed.

Show one study that definitively proves this. Some of you think just because someone has a you tube video they know everything.

[Windex]

Over the years I've learned protein selection (quality) is just if not more important than protein consumption (quantity)