Feeing pretty stupid!!

[yeahbuddy289]

About 6 months ago I bought some PEG MGF to try in my calves. Thanks to covid and our wonderful governor the gyms were forced to close.

Now that I am back in the gym I was thinking of giving this stuff a try... I was just reading up on it trying to get more information on how to use it properly and I read that even in unmixed powder form it needs to be stored in the freezer! (Needs to be reconstituted and used within 1-2 months if not frozen)

Well I went full retard when I got this stuff and just threw it in the closet where I store all my AAS and supplies. I never even thought to check how it should be stored. So I now have $200+ dollars of PEG MGF that is useless!! I feel extremely stupid and this couldn’t have come at a worse time as I feel like I have been blowing money left and right on my other hobby (guns). Sorry for the long pointless post but I just needed to vent!!

[SampsonandDelilah]

May not be worthless...could’ve just degraded?

[< <Samson> >]

Wtf is PEG MGF?

[almostgone]

Wtf is PEG MGF?

Mechano growth factor. It's been around in various forms for a while.
Basically, another one of the peptides that is supposed to encourage muscle growth.

[almostgone]

About 6 months ago I bought some PEG MGF to try in my calves. Thanks to covid and our wonderful governor the gyms were forced to close.

Now that I am back in the gym I was thinking of giving this stuff a try... I was just reading up on it trying to get more information on how to use it properly and I read that even in unmixed powder form it needs to be stored in the freezer! (Needs to be reconstituted and used within 1-2 months if not frozen)

Well I went full retard when I got this stuff and just threw it in the closet where I store all my AAS and supplies. I never even thought to check how it should be stored. So I now have $200+ dollars of PEG MGF that is useless!! I feel extremely stupid and this couldn’t have come at a worse time as I feel like I have been blowing money left and right on my other hobby (guns). Sorry for the long pointless post but I just needed to vent!!

FWIW, I would give it a try. If it doesn't work, you only have the additional cast of syringes and a little injection discomfort.

Over a decade ago, one of the research companies had a "supposedly" orally bioavailable form of pegylated MGF. I was a guinea pig for testing it out, but saw no overall differences. Don't recall if I ever test drove the injectable version.

[BG]

Should be ok as long as it didn’t get too hot. Doesn’t degrade too much until being reconstituted.

[956Vette]

PEG-MGF is among the least efficacious of the unicorn horn peptides, unsure anyone advocates using it.

[BG]

PEG-MGF is among the least efficacious of the unicorn horn peptides, unsure anyone advocates using it.

I wasn’t even going to get into that

[yeahbuddy289]

I’m sure it will do nothing for me wether I froze it or not lol. I’m just so desperate for bigger calves I was willing to try it haha

[Mooseman33]

finance the implants buddy.

cant be much more then 5-7k.

my wife has fake boobs and its the best money i ever spent.

treat urself.

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, I guess it’s easy talking when you’re the guy with monster calves from genetics


All I do is about 1,000 calf raises a day

Fuck it - wear pants

Calves are a tough one to grow for some folk

[BG]

I’m sure it will do nothing for me wether I froze it or not lol. I’m just so desperate for bigger calves I was willing to try it haha

Train them every work out for a week, weighted one day, body weight the next, try to do as many different variations you can think of. Then the next week just stretch them with some body weight reps but not much just get them full of blood. Repeat. Stair machine on your toes should be your favorite machine in the gym.

[BG]

my wife has fake boobs and its the best money i ever spent.

Yes I appreciate you not being cheap!

[almostgone]

Shit, I guess it’s easy talking when you’re the guy with monster calves from genetics


All I do is about 1,000 calf raises a day

Fuck it - wear pants

Calves are a tough one to grow for some folk

Those aren't calves, they're bulls!

[yeahbuddy289]

Fml... I train them so hard I can barley stand up. All I’ve managed to do was make the outline of the muscle more visible.... I have put on no more than 1” on them.

I have thought about implants but would never put that much money into getting calves lol. Plus I don’t think they would look natural.

[< <Samson> >]

Not tying to be a dickwad - Lol


I pretty much made myself stop doing legs for quite while - they just got too big, I can't wear jeans for shit. . . . It took me a few years to get my calves that small - they were trying to get bigger than my arms - I pretty much walked them down for years

[yeahbuddy289]

Not tying to be a dickwad - Lol


I pretty much made myself stop doing legs for quite while - they just got too big, I can't wear jeans for shit. . . . It took me a few years to get my calves that small - they were trying to get bigger than my arms - I pretty much walked them down for years

I hate you lol.






Just kidding brother lol wish I had that problem. I’m probably going to cut out training legs to focus more on my calves. My legs a naturally pretty big (above the knee lol) and I can only train them for about 2-3 months before my knees give out. Tired of the frustration of putting in the work on leg day only to have to stop every couple months. I’m going to put that extra time and energy into my already intense calf regiment.

[MaxiMyME]

Pegylated (chemically modified to contain a polyethylene glycol residue) mechano growth factor (peptide involved in translating mechanical force into biological signals).

Pegylation increases the time that the peptide "survives" in the body

[MaxiMyME]

There is no harm in taking it anyways as long as aseptic technique and preventative measures are taken to prevent infection.

The peptides will degrade but most will not go instantly to 0% activity after time at less than recommended storage temperature. Also peptides degrade fastest after reconstitution. They are more stable as lyophilized powder.

I would use it anyway and at minimum you get a good "semi-placebo" effect.

For further details on the speed of degradation I would search pubmed for pegylated peptide degradation speed etc. They are almost certainly open access studies on the speed of degradation of the same or comparable peptides when stored at different temperatures.

Best of luck.

[< <Samson> >]

I hate you lol.






Just kidding brother lol wish I had that problem. I’m probably going to cut out training legs to focus more on my calves. My legs a naturally pretty big (above the knee lol) and I can only train them for about 2-3 months before my knees give out. Tired of the frustration of putting in the work on leg day only to have to stop every couple months. I’m going to put that extra time and energy into my already intense calf regiment.

Lol

Fuck it, wear pants

My close friend that passed was like this, amazing upper body - 10 years older than me & looked way better. Strong ass legs - tiny af. He would never wear shorts, even here in the heat

I always tried to give him shot about it - he’d always come back with “I’m older, but still look better” - and, it was really true

Fucking genetics

Lol

[Old Duffer]

...

Fucking genetics

Lol

Doesn’t that just say it all, eh?

[yeahbuddy289]

Unfortunately as much as I hate my calves, I hate wearing pants even more. Luckily, the climate I am in forces me to wear pants for about 7 months out of the year lol from the knee up my legs are big so pants suck to wear lol

[jstone]

i would try a hyaluronic acid site enhancement product. it attracts so much water the muscle stretches the fascia which should allow muscle to grow. i have used it on other parts with success, and i have more for once i can get back in the gym regularly.

[yeahbuddy289]

Is that similar to synthol? I have thought about synthol but I have heard it is extremely painful.

[< <Samson> >]

Def agree, I hate wearing pants - usually

+ I’m out here, where it’s pool weather 8 months out of the year


Being, serious tho - I couldn’t recommend doing shit to someone’s calves aside from try to work them out - I seen implants done, ewwww

But, I def hear ya - shit, I’m finally coming to terms with my bitch tits

[BG]

i would try a hyaluronic acid site enhancement product. it attracts so much water the muscle stretches the fascia which should allow muscle to grow. i have used it on other parts with success, and i have more for once i can get back in the gym regularly.

You have anymore info on this.....new to me, sounds interesting.

[jstone]

hyaluronic acid is used for multiple different applications from dermal fillers to joint supplement. Some joints have bersa sacks which are filled with synovial fluid, hyaluronic acid is an orally bio available form of synovial fluid.

Then there are the products similar to dermal fillers which are used for site enhancement. its water based not oil based when injected it is self dispersing, so there is no depot like oils. so your getting the benefit across the entire muscle. hyaluronic acid will hold a rediculous amount of water compared to its weight. so the water attaches to the hyaluronic acid to fill the muscle, which streches the fascia.

I cant remember the brand, but one brand comes as a powder you add 5ml of bac water and you get 4 ml of injectable product. its ability to hold water is what makes it so great. It is supposed to last up to 12 months with minimal maintenance. it helps heal injurys, and offers other benefits.

with this product synthol will no longer be around accept for some of the youtube wackos. Mediphorm is the biggest brand and it expensive, but the source i use for peptides has there own version of it for a good price. if your interested google Mediphorm and there's lots of info on it and its benefits. i never tried synthol and never would, from my research theres no comparison. synthol has to be done in an exacting way or you become lumpy. HA disperses evenly across the muscle you inject it into giving you an even appearance. After application it feels as if you have hit quite a few intense sets, the pump is immediate.