How lean to 1/2" IM delt?

[DustMan]

I'm sitting at 16.5% BF right now, lots of guys in the TRT groups are slin pinning their small dosages in their lateral delt with 1/2" needles, are they fucking it up or is this legit?

I got a shot to do today, 0.25ml, normally I IM delts with a 1" 26G, but since it's TRT and I'm planning on living to 80, I want to reduce scar tissue accumulation, and figured I'd ask if 1/2" 29G would work.

What do you guys think?

Bonus question: I'm not comfortable doing a VG IM yet, anyone got a good video source that clearly shows how to find the sweet spot?

[Test Monsterone]

I do it in my love handle area and around my belly button. I don’t think the side delt have enough fat to call it sub q. It will still puncture muscle at .5”

[Cuz]

Just use an slin pin for trt 1/2 27g-31g no issues

[DustMan]

I do it in my love handle area and around my belly button. I don’t think the side delt have enough fat to call it sub q. It will still puncture muscle at .5”

Yeah I heard shooting into delt with 1/2" will be IM and not SubQ, but I've also heard people say that 1/2" in delt will be "shallow" IM and won't be as effective, but I can't find anything to back that up.

Love the love handle suggestion, I might try that one tonight.

[DustMan]

Just use an slin pin for trt 1/2 27g-31g no issues

Just to make 100% sure, you mean for Delt injections right?

[Cuz]

Just to make 100% sure, you mean for Delt injections right?

You can shoot it anywhere, IM or subq.

[DustMan]

Went with the 29G 1/2" in the left deltoid, worked like a charm and definitely went into the muscle. I'll try the love handles Tuesday. Thanks guys.

[Cuz]

Double post

[Thors_Hammer]

I always use a 1/2 inch on my delt and I'd say I'm probably around 18% bf. The only thing you have to watch for is if you go at an angle you might get leakage which will result in a lump for the next few days. Nothing that'll hurt you (at least in my experience) but it's just annoying.

[Ashop]

I use 1" for delts but could probably get by with 1/2" with no problems.

[scotty51312]

A lot of people on here back in the day would preach about 1" for delt 1.5 for glute and that AAS had to be deep IM to be effective. I've been pinning TRT sub q with a slin pin for about a year now. The only issue i ever had was when i had some high dosed test (400mg/ml) and i injected into my love handle made a hard knot that stayed there for alomst a month. Not sure if it was due to the high benzyl alcohol content or some other preservative or what. I cut it 50/50 with grape seed oil and never had the issue again. Weather you hit fat or muscle going into your delt the end result will pretty much be the same. Although I prefer hitting my quad with a slin pin since I can use my other hand to "Z-track" the skin. Helps keeping any oil from leaking back out.

[DustMan]

A lot of people on here back in the day would preach about 1" for delt 1.5 for glute and that AAS had to be deep IM to be effective. I've been pinning TRT sub q with a slin pin for about a year now. The only issue i ever had was when i had some high dosed test (400mg/ml) and i injected into my love handle made a hard knot that stayed there for alomst a month. Not sure if it was due to the high benzyl alcohol content or some other preservative or what. I cut it 50/50 with grape seed oil and never had the issue again. Weather you hit fat or muscle going into your delt the end result will pretty much be the same. Although I prefer hitting my quad with a slin pin since I can use my other hand to "Z-track" the skin. Helps keeping any oil from leaking back out.

Haven't tried quads yet, I wonder if I'm lean enough with a 1/2", but if it doesn't get into the muscle then I guess it's just a SubQ and will still absorb. I'll look into it and this "Z-track", I wanted to do VG's but the self administration video's I've found online are shit, I don't want to stab into my hip joint or any other delicate structure, gonna ask the Doc to help me figure out the injection site properly during my next bloodwork visit.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

If you are using legit pharma grade gear...

I would do any injection of 0.5ml or less subQ into any fatty area. Think stomach or love handles.

You can definitely do 0.5" injection into delt. Whether or not it goes into the muscle depends on BF%.
Not matter what it will work.

I avoid delts because I have had gear leak out and gotten redness in my biceps.

[DustMan]

If you are using legit pharma grade gear...

I would do any injection of 0.5ml or less subQ into any fatty area. Think stomach or love handles.

You can definitely do 0.5" injection into delt. Whether or not it goes into the muscle depends on BF%.
Not matter what it will work.

I avoid delts because I have had gear leak out and gotten redness in my biceps.

According to anyone selling it, it's "as close to Pharma as UGL gets in Europe" but that may be bullshit. I haven't found a single independent test on it, I'll be posting my 6 week bloodwork here so other people can judge for themselves.

I've never heard of redness in the biceps before that's very interesting. Ho w many ml are you injecting into your delt when this happens? Does it also happen if you use a longer needle or only with the 0.5"?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I wouldn't inject any UGL subQ. That's just me.
Plenty on this forum inject UGL subQ.
I just think that subQ has a higher chance of a cyst or infection I am no doctor.

I have injected 1-2ml in delts before.
I believe that when gear "leaks out" what is really happening is that the injection didn't go into a muscle belly but instead went between two muscles or the injection wasn't deep enough and some came out.
I think a longer needle would help but I've had it happen with 1" in my delts.

[DustMan]

I wouldn't inject any UGL subQ. That's just me.
Plenty on this forum inject UGL subQ.
I just think that subQ has a higher chance of a cyst or infection I am no doctor.

I have injected 1-2ml in delts before.
I believe that when gear "leaks out" what is really happening is that the injection didn't go into a muscle belly but instead went between two muscles or the injection wasn't deep enough and some came out.
I think a longer needle would help but I've had it happen with 1" in my delts.

Interesting. I've never injected more than 1ml in a single location before, if I ever had to do more than 1ml I would do multiple shots in multiple locations, not for any particular reason, that's just what the guys in the crew said was smart.

So far no issues with SubQ but to be honest I prefer the 1/2" in the delt over the SubQ so far, I dislike the sensation in my belly fat that lingers for the next 12 hours. I'm gonna try quad and VG soon too, just need to do a bit more research on proper injection technique.