Post covid cycle to get back

[Bigbadwolf250]

So running trt 180 mgs test. Just got over covid and lost some mass so want just a little something to kick start things. Usually limit myself to one cycle a year during the summer. Trying to take it more easy on the body. Looking for something easy on the lipids and not harsh in liver or kidneys.

Any suggestions? Just looking at something to add to trt. Like maybe a sarm. Want something easy on hairline as I'm prone to hair loss.

[SampsonandDelilah]

So running trt 180 mgs test. Just got over covid and lost some mass so want just a little something to kick start things. Usually limit myself to one cycle a year during the summer. Trying to take it more easy on the body. Looking for something easy on the lipids and not harsh in liver or kidneys.

Any suggestions? Just looking at something to add to trt. Like maybe a sarm. Want something easy on hairline as I'm prone to hair loss.

Add in 50 mgs of proviron or add a little primo.

Huge fan of proviron on a cruise

[Bigbadwolf250]

Add in 50 mgs of proviron or add a little primo.

Huge fan of proviron on a cruise

Thanks boss. Is proviron harsh on the hair? Pretty sure I ran it before and had some shedding

[SampsonandDelilah]

It’s a DHT so yes. I’m a q-tip so I forget
Scratch off mast as well.

If you have the gene, it’ll be tough regardless but primo may be your best bet

[Bigbadwolf250]

It’s a DHT so yes. I’m a q-tip so I forget
Scratch off mast as well.

If you have the gene, it’ll be tough regardless but primo may be your best bet

Thanks boss. Also any idea why im so bloated. Mainly on the face? Look like a froggen chipmunk right now woth my cheeks. Continued my trt and ai use while I was sick. Only thing I could think of is I wasn't drinking much water? Any idea if that'd be it?

[< <Samson> >]

Maybe the poor water intake - since getting sick, it’s been hard for me to push down my usual daily gallon

I’m still lean af myself tho, barely holding weight from this long forgotten appetite

[SampsonandDelilah]

Thanks boss. Also any idea why im so bloated. Mainly on the face? Look like a froggen chipmunk right now woth my cheeks. Continued my trt and ai use while I was sick. Only thing I could think of is I wasn't drinking much water? Any idea if that'd be it?

Moon face is usually estrogen related or water/diet related.

Too much sodium or if you don’t drink enough, the body will hold water thus causing you to look like a chipmunk.

I hold it in my face and my “kankles”. I find if I cut sodium, hit the sauna and then pound Gatorade or pedialyte I can get rid of it

[Bigbadwolf250]

Moon face is usually estrogen related or water/diet related.

Too much sodium or if you don’t drink enough, the body will hold water thus causing you to look like a chipmunk.

I hold it in my face and my “kankles”. I find if I cut sodium, hit the sauna and then pound Gatorade or pedialyte I can get rid of it

Thanks man. You think I should just up my test dose for a few weeks while I get back into it?

Also anyone know if vicious labs is still around or something similar. He used to make some solid designer phs

[Killah_Keith]

Why not just use more test?

Titrate up slowly over time until you either get the results you are looking for. Or estrogen side effects show up, then back off to your "safe" limit.

With good blood work as well.


Unless you are competing in a sport of some kind. Why put the stress of harsher compounds on your body?

[Bigbadwolf250]

Why not just use more test?

Titrate up slowly over time until you either get the results you are looking for. Or estrogen side effects show up, then back off to your "safe" limit.

With good blood work as well.


Unless you are competing in a sport of some kind. Why put the stress of harsher compounds on your body?

Sounds good man. I think I'll go that route. Right now on cruise doing 180 mg a week in 3 doses with 6.25 exemstane 3 times a week on each pin day.

Should I bump it to 250 then slowly increase it. Should I increase my ai use as well you think or only if I see sides.

[Killah_Keith]

Have you done blood work to see if you actually need to use exemstane?

180mg a week is pretty typical as that's exactly what I use for my year round TRT. Unless you are extremely sensitive to estradiol conversion, you might not need to use it at all.

I keep an AI on hand, but will only use if I'm actually showing symptoms of estrogen related side effects. I've never used more than 350mg Test per week, but was also using 250mg Deca a week. Did not need to use an AI until I added in Dbol for 4 weeks.

Point being. Unless you absolutely know you need it. Try dropping the AI first.

As far as bumping your test up. I would go up to 250mg a week for a minimum of 4 weeks. Either then check your blood work or evaluate your self. Then if everything is okay, go up to 350mg. Repeat.

Edit:

The more I read and learn. The more I moving away from the typical 12-20 week cycle at xxx-dose a week.

Titrating up slowly over a long period of time finding what is your personal limit and reaction to compounds. You may be able to forgo harsher stress and be on cycle for up to a year or more...

Victor Black has some interesting information on this.

[< <Samson> >]

More test never gave me much of anything positive, aside from more side effects


I’m really in the same boat rn, dropped the deca as soon as I knew I was sick. Still taking 175mg of test weekly - no aI + HCG

I have racks of orals I can take, but now everything seems to be beating up my guts - last time I ran Var so long, even it fucked my stomach up

More deca sounds aight, I guess

Primo is just too expensive & needs to b run at about 2-3x the dose of deca to see results

And, now I feel too old for tren. Lol < that shit was a staple till I tasted nothing but copper in my mouth


I’m down to considering eQ at this point

[Bigbadwolf250]

Have you done blood work to see if you actually need to use exemstane?

180mg a week is pretty typical as that's exactly what I use for my year round TRT. Unless you are extremely sensitive to estradiol conversion, you might not need to use it at all.

I keep an AI on hand, but will only use if I'm actually showing symptoms of estrogen related side effects. I've never used more than 350mg Test per week, but was also using 250mg Deca a week. Did not need to use an AI until I added in Dbol for 4 weeks.

Point being. Unless you absolutely know you need it. Try dropping the AI first.

As far as bumping your test up. I would go up to 250mg a week for a minimum of 4 weeks. Either then check your blood work or evaluate your self. Then if everything is okay, go up to 350mg. Repeat.

Edit:

The more I read and learn. The more I moving away from the typical 12-20 week cycle at xxx-dose a week.

Titrating up slowly over a long period of time finding what is your personal limit and reaction to compounds. You may be able to forgo harsher stress and be on cycle for up to a year or more...

Victor Black has some interesting information on this.

Played around with my ai dosage. After about 2 months of that protocol it put my test levels at 1200 and e2 at 29