Test E only cycle

[King_ragnar]

Hello guys, i want to ask you something about an only test cycle.

Is it possible to run Test E for 24 weeks or is it to much??
i was thinking about 16 weeks test E 500mg every week and i wanted to ask first if i can run it for 24 weeks with the same mg.

I am planning starting it at March.

And for pct i was thinking about Nolva and clomid

What is your opinion?

My stats:

28 years old
Hitting gym 5 times
i am training about 10 years
i did 12 weeks test E only cycle, i did my pct with nolva and i was off about 3-4 months
i will start my cutting cycle cause i have to lose about 8-10kg in 2 months so i will be ready for my lifeguard job
I have a diet coach to calculate my food

[Cylon357]

Hello guys, i want to ask you something about an only test cycle.

Is it possible to run Test E for 24 weeks or is it to much??
i was thinking about 16 weeks test E 500mg every week and i wanted to ask first if i can run it for 24 weeks with the same mg.

I am planning starting it at March.

And for pct i was thinking about Nolva and clomid

What is your opinion?

My stats:

28 years old
Hitting gym 5 times
i am training about 10 years
i did 12 weeks test E only cycle, i did my pct with nolva and i was off about 3-4 months
i will start my cutting cycle cause i have to lose about 8-10kg in 2 months so i will be ready for my lifeguard job
I have a diet coach to calculate my food

That's a pretty long run, basically 6 straight months. If you run hcg throughout, it MIGHT be ok, but that's probably a bit longer than I would feel good with, especially with it being your second cycle.

[King_ragnar]

That's a pretty long run, basically 6 straight months. If you run hcg throughout, it MIGHT be ok, but that's probably a bit longer than I would feel good with, especially with it being your second cycle.

what's your proposition?? should i stay 16 weeks (4 months) and then pct??

[Cylon357]

what's your proposition?? should i stay 16 weeks (4 months) and then pct??

At this point, you have choices. Good on you for making your first cycle test only and keeping it shorter.

Choice 1 - keep duration the same, just take more test, say 750mg per week.

Choice 2 - keep duration and test volume the same, but add another compound

Choice 3 - keep test the same, increase duration to 16 weeks, plus or minus.

There are other options, but those are the best and safest ones, IMO.

Personally, I like the 2nd choice. Since you are cutting, you could add a DHT derivative like masteron or maybe front or back load with Anavar. Either of these compounds can help you manage estrogen, too.

The first option might lead to managing estrogen sides, though I can't speak to how that went on your 500mg cycle. Also at some point we run into diminishing returns with a compound. For example, 750mg test might not be 50% enter than 500mg, maybe only 30% better. Numbers are somewhat arbitrary but you get the point. That said, it's not a bad choice.

3rd option there is fine too, but at 28, you should still have good natural production. The longer you are on, the longer it can take to restart. I don't really think an extra 4 weeks is problematic, but doubling to 24 weeks as you suggested could be, based on your experience level.

Just some random tboughts...

[King_ragnar]

At this point, you have choices. Good on you for making your first cycle test only and keeping it shorter.

Choice 1 - keep duration the same, just take more test, say 750mg per week.

Choice 2 - keep duration and test volume the same, but add another compound

Choice 3 - keep test the same, increase duration to 16 weeks, plus or minus.

There are other options, but those are the best and safest ones, IMO.

Personally, I like the 2nd choice. Since you are cutting, you could add a DHT derivative like masteron or maybe front or back load with Anavar. Either of these compounds can help you manage estrogen, too.

The first option might lead to managing estrogen sides, though I can't speak to how that went on your 500mg cycle. Also at some point we run into diminishing returns with a compound. For example, 750mg test might not be 50% enter than 500mg, maybe only 30% better. Numbers are somewhat arbitrary but you get the point. That said, it's not a bad choice.

3rd option there is fine too, but at 28, you should still have good natural production. The longer you are on, the longer it can take to restart. I don't really think an extra 4 weeks is problematic, but doubling to 24 weeks as you suggested could be, based on your experience level.

Just some random tboughts...

Thank you so much brother!! I really appreciate it, at this moment i have on my hands only test so i am thinking about 3rd option keeping test same and using it about 16-20 weeks (no more than that) then 3 weeks off and starting my pct, i am also using arimidex 0,5mg EOD

[lundgren]

Hey,

What is your goal ?

Because your start your cycle in March.

Do you know your value before starting your cycle ?

Some point are very important before starting a cycle of test or AAS ;-)

If you are sensitive, and if you plan 500mg weekly you need to think about oestrogen side.

For PCT if you have the opportunity try to take some Clomid to run 4-5 weeks at 50mg daily or HMG 75 ui's 3 time week.

[Cylon357]

Thank you so much brother!! I really appreciate it, at this moment i have on my hands only test so i am thinking about 3rd option keeping test same and using it about 16-20 weeks (no more than that) then 3 weeks off and starting my pct, i am also using arimidex 0,5mg EOD

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

[King_ragnar]

That is almost certainly too much adex. Some weeks you will be doing 2mg per week. That's a big number. Did you have high estrogen issues on your 500mg cycle? You actually do want estrogen, it has so many good benefits and positive impact on male physiology. That said, if you know you have issues, have at it, but do be careful to NOT hinder gains too much by tamping estrogen too much.

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

[Cylon357]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

[scotty51312]

I've tried blasting with the same compound for 20 weeks before but honestly right about 12 to 14 weeks all the gains started slowing down. If you wanna run test more than 16 weeks you're gonna have to boost the dosage on the tail end of the cycle to keep seeing gains. Or possibly add another compound. Maybe run 20 weeks but the last 4 go to 600mg test and toss in 40 mg every day of anavar

[King_ragnar]

As little as possible, preferably 0mg. The first cycle sticky here recommends 1/4mg EOD, this is good for a first cycle. As you get more experience under your belt, the goal should be to move away from AI and run just the minimum you need to avoid negative estrogenic sides.

In time, I think you will find other compounds (like the DHT derivatives) that you can run instead of a dedicated AI. They bring the dual benefit of controlling estrogen and having at least mild anabolic effects.

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

[King_ragnar]

I've tried blasting with the same compound for 20 weeks before but honestly right about 12 to 14 weeks all the gains started slowing down. If you wanna run test more than 16 weeks you're gonna have to boost the dosage on the tail end of the cycle to keep seeing gains. Or possibly add another compound. Maybe run 20 weeks but the last 4 go to 600mg test and toss in 40 mg every day of anavar

Ohh so i have to to a bit more test at last month

[King_ragnar]

i also used this one https://musclemax.gr/eksidikeumena/p...ASSIST_240CAPS at my cycle to help me with acne and my liver and all of that what you think?

[Cylon357]

I was afraid about gyno that's why i did 05mg dex from the beginning

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

[Honkey_Kong]

I did the same on my 500mg cycle, dex 0,5 EOD. How much dex you think i shoult take?? 1mg per week?

On 500mg? There's a pretty good chance you might not need an AI. If you did need one, I'd start with .25mg E2D. You really don't want to overdo the AI. Your body needs estrogen. You don't ever want to take more than the bare minimum of any drug needed to give you the desired result. Less is more.


And really, if you're that scared of getting gyno, then you probably shouldn't take gear in the first place. It's a risk that can happen. And if you get it, there are things you can do about it (up to and including a mastectomy).

[King_ragnar]

We are all afraid of gyno at one point or another. There are better ways of preventing it, though.

When you beat down estrogen with an ai, you do reduce the risk of gyno, but you also needlessly hinder gains, libido, and immunity.

Nolvadex can prevent and eliminate gyno and is safe to use on cycle. Those dht derivatives I mentioned do the same.

Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

[Honkey_Kong]

Τhat's why i didnt do test E and deca cause i am afraid of deca dick... ok then i will check it out to use the minimum i need

If you make sure you take deca with a dht derivative, you probably won't get deca dick. Go read some of the more modern threads on here that are about 19nor steroids. You do still want a test base, and you'll see a lot of people recommend taking a slightly higher than TRT dose of test and letting the 19nor do the heavy lifting. You also probably will need a DHT derivative as well. I'd suggest proviron, since it's easy on the body and will help with sexual side effects.

But if you're doing a cutting cycle, then there are better drugs out there than deca. And since you've only had one test experience before, I'd suggest doing that again. Or better yet, do a 4-6 week cycle and use a shorter ester like Test P and maybe take anavar or primo with it (primo is quite a bit more expensive though).

[King_ragnar]

If you make sure you take deca with a dht derivative, you probably won't get deca dick. Go read some of the more modern threads on here that are about 19nor steroids. You do still want a test base, and you'll see a lot of people recommend taking a slightly higher than TRT dose of test and letting the 19nor do the heavy lifting. You also probably will need a DHT derivative as well. I'd suggest proviron, since it's easy on the body and will help with sexual side effects.

That's what i read to run test about 300mg and let deca do the work 400-500mg and stuck with them proviron 50mg every day, but my main question is can i use this stuck for cutting?? a lot of people say that deca is better for bulk

[Honkey_Kong]

That's what i read to run test about 300mg and let deca do the work 400-500mg and stuck with them proviron 50mg every day, but my main question is can i use this stuck for cutting?? a lot of people say that deca is better for bulk

I edited my post to add that in there while you were writing this one.

The God's honest truth about cutting is it's not really so much the gear you're taking, but rather your diet, training and cardio. You could come up with the best ever "cutting cycle" and still put weight on, if your diet sucks. Likewise, you could setup the best bulk cycle and end up losing weight if your diet sucks.

[King_ragnar]

I edited my post to add that in there while you were writing this one.

The God's honest truth about cutting is it's not really so much the gear you're taking, but rather your diet, training and cardio. You could come up with the best ever "cutting cycle" and still put weight on, if your diet sucks. Likewise, you could setup the best bulk cycle and end up losing weight if your diet sucks.

The only problem is i can find only test E and Deca from a friend who works in a pharmacy, yeah you are 100% right cutting and bulking is about my diet my training and also my cardio. But that's the reason i was thinking about Test E only and doing it 20 weeks because i can't find any other drug

[songdog]

Trust in your DIET and less on AAS and you will do fine.All too often people think of aas as a diet aid.