Should i tell her?

[Octaneforce]

I was in a relationship for a very very long time and never told her about my gear usage. She suspected it towards the end, and found a syringe right before we seperated (which contributed to the seperation). It was definitely unhealthy and stressful for me to be hiding the shit and pinning while looking over my shoulder.

Anyway, im roughly 8 months into a new relationship and feeling the heat again. Obviously when we date girls we arent typically going to admit to steroid use. Its just not understood well by most people. Albeit, here i am fairly deep into something and probably reaching a point of no return soon, because even if i do tell her, it will look like ive been lying for a long time about it.

Shes never pressured me or even brought it up. But i have no idea how shes going to react if i told her. I might steer it into more of a “medical” issue and explain that i was on for so long that i need the trt dose forever now (which is true).

So, does your girl know your slingin the sauce?

[almostgone]

If you aren't living together, I wouldn't mention it. If you're living together, she'll probably figure it out.

[wango]

Are your goals that of being an exclusive arrangement or marriage? If so, I don’t see anything else other than complete openness & honesty.

Married for close to 40 years & there’s nothing we don’t tell each other, but that takes a lot of understanding, tolerance and confidence in both parties. My wife personally had to approve before I moved from TRT to cycling and more recently, my return to HGH. Had she said no, I wouldn’t have. But, that means she is more important than the gear; that’s the crucial point of it. Is she more important than the gear of not?

[Cuz]

I was in a relationship for a very very long time and never told her about my gear usage. She suspected it towards the end, and found a syringe right before we seperated (which contributed to the seperation). It was definitely unhealthy and stressful for me to be hiding the shit and pinning while looking over my shoulder.

Anyway, im roughly 8 months into a new relationship and feeling the heat again. Obviously when we date girls we arent typically going to admit to steroid use. Its just not understood well by most people. Albeit, here i am fairly deep into something and probably reaching a point of no return soon, because even if i do tell her, it will look like ive been lying for a long time about it.

Shes never pressured me or even brought it up. But i have no idea how shes going to react if i told her. I might steer it into more of a “medical” issue and explain that i was on for so long that i need the trt dose forever now (which is true).

So, does your girl know your slingin the sauce?

How lucky. I wish mine would leave just by finding syringes…

[teedoff]

I'm in the other camp. If there's something there and you feel this could get more serious than just a date, tell her. I mean I feel like it's similar to smoking. If a girl smokes, which I dislike very much, and she's hidden it from me and we become serious, I'd be really pissed to find out after developing feelings for her.

[Cylon357]

I'm in the other camp. If there's something there and you feel this could get more serious than just a date, tell her. I mean I feel like it's similar to smoking. If a girl smokes, which I dislike very much, and she's hidden it from me and we become serious, I'd be really pissed to find out after developing feelings for her.

It is almost impossible to hide a smoker to a non smoker. But until you see the needle in a butt, you can't say for SURE that someone is juicing...

[Octaneforce]

Are your goals that of being an exclusive arrangement or marriage? If so, I don’t see anything else other than complete openness & honesty.

Married for close to 40 years & there’s nothing we don’t tell each other, but that takes a lot of understanding, tolerance and confidence in both parties. My wife personally had to approve before I moved from TRT to cycling and more recently, my return to HGH. Had she said no, I wouldn’t have. But, that means she is more important than the gear; that’s the crucial point of it. Is she more important than the gear of not?

Hmm thats a tricky question of if shes more important than gear. I could argue that the man she fell in love with has always been on gear. So if i stopped, i wouldnt really be myself.

I do intend to marry her so i gotta tell her one way or another.

[Octaneforce]

If you aren't living together, I wouldn't mention it. If you're living together, she'll probably figure it out.

No i dont live with her but its probably in the not so far future. I already own my house and shes in a not amazing apartment. For sure, its nearly impossible to hide when living together. I dont want to hide anything.

[Octaneforce]

How lucky. I wish mine would leave just by finding syringes…

Bro, i could write a book about the rest of the reasons lol. I was a very bad boy.

[Honkey_Kong]

It is almost impossible to hide a smoker to a non smoker. But until you see the needle in a butt, you can't say for SURE that someone is juicing...

Yeah, but if you don't look like you're juicing, that means you're not doing it right. And really, if nobody has ever accused you of using gear before you've ever tried it, then you're probably not ready for gear.

[Honkey_Kong]

No i dont live with her but its probably in the not so far future. I already own my house and shes in a not amazing apartment. For sure, its nearly impossible to hide when living together. I dont want to hide anything.

It's a double-edged sword really. On one side, if you love this woman, you need to be open about everything. The second you start hiding things from her, you being living a "double life." And any woman that you can't share everything about you with isn't somebody you should be with. She's supposed to be your best friend (if you marry her) and things that you do to yourself and things that happen to you affect her life. So she does have the right to at least know.

But then again if you tell her, it could ruin your relationship. On top of that, let's say you get married, have kids and get divorced, your use of gear can and probably will be brought up during at the very least the custody part of the divorce hearings. Not to mention if she gets pissed at you, she could just call the police and let them in to your home.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

You can get the truth across to someone in a series of fibs, reducing the inaccuracy with each subsequent disclosure.

I'm in my 30s but I can pass for in my 20s, and I like to go to the speed dating events for people in their 20s. But then they started asking for ID at the speed dating events so I went on the internet and got a fake ID that makes me 10 years younger.

Right now I'm on holidays in the Canaries, and I ran out of accommodation because I left it too long to book over the Christmas and New year period, but then I met an English girl here aged 20 and she was in a room by herself so she said if I pay half the room I can stay in her room. So I've been in her room for about a week now. When she first asked me my age I said a number in my 20s, and then a day or two later she spontaneously asked me if I had my passport. I saw where this was going so I said I flew out here on my European ID, and later I showed her the ID that takes 10 years off me.

I'm nice to the girl and treat her well, I did her laundry twice and went to the pharmacy to get her lactase pills, and I did a few other things too. I don't need to ruin it now by telling her I'm actually ten years older. I might tell her on the last day when she's getting on the bus to the airport. I might not though if that would just ruin it. I could be a pleasant memory.

I'm white and Irish but my skin is very dark right now because I have been taking melanotan over here. I told the girl that I use nasal sprays, because I know how needles freak some people out. But then she found a needle in the room and so she asked me politely "Do you have some medication in the room?". And so it was at this point that I told her that I'm actually injecting melanotan into my tummy fat, and fortunately she was fine about it.

So anyway you could broach the topic with her by starting off and saying that you take testosterone booster pills. Maybe a while later tell her that you actually take a testosterone supplement. Then at some point further down the line tell her about the needles (maybe start by saying you put the steroids into your tummy fat . . . then give more accuracy at a later date).

15 years from now, if you ask her would she have preferred if you had told her from the offset about the needles, she might say that she's actually glad you didn't because she would have left you, but now she's with the man of her dreams and has a beautiful life and a family.

In general lying is bad, but if you take a black-and-white view of morality in life without any grey areas, you'll end up hurting people more than if you had had tact. Plus, when a person has a black-and-white view of morality, it is very easy to convince them to fly a plane into a building. Back on September 11th 2001, those guys who flew the planes were the least guilty people in the chain of people required for that event to occur. And Oskar Schindler told some very noble lies every time the Nazis asked him if he needed more Jews.

You're basically Oskar Schindler providing a lady with love and a good life. That's sweet of you.

[Honkey_Kong]

You can get the truth across to someone in a series of fibs, reducing the inaccuracy with each subsequent disclosure.

I'm in my 30s but I can pass for in my 20s, and I like to go to the speed dating events for people in their 20s. But then they started asking for ID at the speed dating events so I went on the internet and got a fake ID that makes me 10 years younger.

Right now I'm on holidays in the Canaries, and I ran out of accommodation because I left it too long to book over the Christmas and New year period, but then I met an English girl here aged 20 and she was in a room by herself so she said if I pay half the room I can stay in her room. So I've been in her room for about a week now. When she first asked me my age I said a number in my 20s, and then a day or two later she spontaneously asked me if I had my passport. I saw where this was going so I said I flew out here on my European ID, and later I showed her the ID that takes 10 years off me.

I'm nice to the girl and treat her well, I did her laundry twice and went to the pharmacy to get her lactase pills, and I did a few other things too. I don't need to ruin it now by telling her I'm actually ten years older. I might tell her on the last day when she's getting on the bus to the airport. I might not though if that would just ruin it. I could be a pleasant memory.

I'm white and Irish but my skin is very dark right now because I have been taking melanotan over here. I told the girl that I use nasal sprays, because I know how needles freak some people out. But then she found a needle in the room and so she asked me politely "Do you have some medication in the room?". And so it was at this point that I told her that I'm actually injecting melanotan into my tummy fat, and fortunately she was fine about it.

So anyway you could broach the topic with her by starting off and saying that you take testosterone booster pills. Maybe a while later tell her that you actually take a testosterone supplement. Then at some point further down the line tell her about the needles (maybe start by saying you put the steroids into your tummy fat . . . then give more accuracy at a later date).

15 years from now, if you ask her would she have preferred if you had told her from the offset about the needles, she might say that she's actually glad you didn't because she would have left you, but now she's with the man of her dreams and has a beautiful life and a family.

In general lying is bad, but if you take a black-and-white view of morality in life without any grey areas, you'll end up hurting people more than if you had had tact. Plus, when a person has a black-and-white view of morality, it is very easy to convince them to fly a plane into a building. Back on September 11th 2001, those guys who flew the planes were the least guilty people in the chain of people required for that event to occur. And Oskar Schindler told some very noble lies every time the Nazis asked him if he needed more Jews.

You're basically Oskar Schindler providing a lady with love and a good life. That's sweet of you.

Pass for being in your 20's? You look like Uncle fvuking Fester. And I guess this post was kind of your way of confessing to lying about every post you've ever made on this site.

[almostgone]

No i dont live with her but its probably in the not so far future. I already own my house and shes in a not amazing apartment. For sure, its nearly impossible to hide when living together.I dont want to hide anything.

Then you answered your own question.

[Octaneforce]

Then you answered your own question.

You steered me there boss!

[< <Samson> >]

I’m on trt - wtf, it’s prescribed - blah blah(if it ever comes up)

[Mooseman33]

exactly as samson said. this is simple buddy.

TRT is what u take. she doesnt need to know the other shit you add. Mine gives me my shots and when there is more in the pin I just tell her its a flush.lol

[wango]

Hmm thats a tricky question of if shes more important than gear. I could argue that the man she fell in love with has always been on gear. So if i stopped, i wouldnt really be myself.

I do intend to marry her so i gotta tell her one way or another.

Although my wife really wouldn’t deny me anything that is that important; nor I her, it’s wonderful to have that trust that the relationship trumps everything else and we would if we think it means that much to the other.

Happy to hear that you’ve found someone that you want to marry, it’s a special thing; particularly if the marriage itself is the priority to both. If it’s one sided; uh-oh.

[JTP$]

I was in a relationship for a very very long time and never told her about my gear usage. She suspected it towards the end, and found a syringe right before we seperated (which contributed to the seperation). It was definitely unhealthy and stressful for me to be hiding the shit and pinning while looking over my shoulder.

Anyway, im roughly 8 months into a new relationship and feeling the heat again. Obviously when we date girls we arent typically going to admit to steroid use. Its just not understood well by most people. Albeit, here i am fairly deep into something and probably reaching a point of no return soon, because even if i do tell her, it will look like ive been lying for a long time about it.

Shes never pressured me or even brought it up. But i have no idea how shes going to react if i told her. I might steer it into more of a “medical” issue and explain that i was on for so long that i need the trt dose forever now (which is true).

So, does your girl know your slingin the sauce?

dont tell her, she does not need to know your personal business. if she finds out its leverage she can use against you, especially if you dump her and she wants to get even with you.

[songdog]

My X knew and didn't have a problem until she told my doctor.I wanted to go through the roof.I could've lost my insurance man was I pissed.

[redz]

My gf of 6 years has no idea. She knows it take hgh but she thinks it’s for anti aging lol. She is against steroids.

[austinite]

Heck no.

[Cylon357]

Heck no.

This is my thought as well. Mainly because The Wife doesn't need to know. There is literally no good that can come of her knowing. If anyone asks her "hey does that sexy mf'er you are married to do 'roids'?", she can say "no, he just naturally that damn sexy. I'm the luckiest woman on the planet!"

OK, so she would never say that (though, you know, it wouldn't hurt every now and then to hear it), but she isn't put in a spot where she might give something away or feel the urge to lie about something.

That's my thoughts on it anyhow.

[Cylon357]

This is my thought as well. Mainly because The Wife doesn't need to know. There is literally no good that can come of her knowing. If anyone asks her "hey does that sexy mf'er you are married to do 'roids'?", she can say "no, he just naturally that damn sexy. I'm the luckiest woman on the planet!"

OK, so she would never say that (though, you know, it wouldn't hurt every now and then to hear it), but she isn't put in a spot where she might give something away or feel the urge to lie about something.

That's my thoughts on it anyhow.

Actually, I guess there is one exception to this rule. If your lady is using as well, then heck yeah, man, let her know! You can get BOGOs and percent off deals, etc by buying in bulk.

Just make sure she doesn't start bogarting the var...

[Ernst]

I've told every one of my girlfriends and never had a problem. It's kind of hard to hide anyway. I usually brought it up pretty early, and I've had quite a few conversations about what I was doing, what I was taking, and how I managed risks and side effects. I don't need anyone finding out way later on and trying to stage an intervention or giving me ultimatums.

[austinite]

It's never a problem until your relationship becomes financially and/or children involved. At that point, you better pray to whatever God you believe in that you don't piss her off enough.

[Honkey_Kong]

The problems with telling your old lady about your use of gear is really just a symptom of the greater problem. That steroids are illegal and publicly taboo.

When we all bitch to each other on here about how they should be legal, we're all just preaching to the choir. What we need to do is be more active in doing what we can in shaping public opinion. If public opinion can become sympathetic to an individual man's right and choice to do AAS, that eventually will parlay in to legalization of these substance. If that happens, then they'll never be used against us in court again.


But the thing is that people need to actively be conditioning people. They need to have all the false information confronted on the regular. And more importantly use the same ethos appeal argument that they use for tobacco and alcohol.

[wango]

The problems with telling your old lady about your use of gear is really just a symptom of the greater problem. That steroids are illegal and publicly taboo.

When we all bitch to each other on here about how they should be legal, we're all just preaching to the choir. What we need to do is be more active in doing what we can in shaping public opinion. If public opinion can become sympathetic to an individual man's right and choice to do AAS, that eventually will parlay in to legalization of these substance. If that happens, then they'll never be used against us in court again.


But the thing is that people need to actively be conditioning people. They need to have all the false information confronted on the regular. And more importantly use the same ethos appeal argument that they use for tobacco and alcohol.

My TRT is legal and my insurance pays for it. In act it brings my testosterone levels arguably higher than they should be for my age, because an exact number isn’t known. Hell every time I watch ESPN or sometimes a ball game I’ll see commercials with ex-athletes promoting testosterone supplements. I’d say public opinion has been changed quite a bit, just like that of pot. Personally driving on public streets with a bunch of dudes on tren with road rage isn’t something I want to see legal.

[teedoff]

My TRT is legal and my insurance pays for it. In act it brings my testosterone levels arguably higher than they should be for my age, because an exact number isn’t known. Hell every time I watch ESPN or sometimes a ball game I’ll see commercials with ex-athletes promoting testosterone supplements. I’d say public opinion has been changed quite a bit, just like that of pot. Personally driving on public streets with a bunch of dudes on tren with road rage isn’t something I want to see legal.

The cannabis crowd has done just that in the last 25 years. Now we have cbd stores everywhere even in a state where weed is still illegal as well as 1 in every 7 driver on the roads are actively smoking weed WHILE driving.

I'm all for medical use, but let's be real. 99% of weed smokers are just for recreation. Yet here we are. Public opinion has done a complete 180 from the elementary drugs are bad lessons we had when I was young.

[wango]

The cannabis crowd has done just that in the last 25 years. Now we have cbd stores everywhere even in a state where weed is still illegal as well as 1 in every 7 driver on the roads are actively smoking weed WHILE driving.

I'm all for medical use, but let's be real. 99% of weed smokers are just for recreation. Yet here we are. Public opinion has done a complete 180 from the elementary drugs are bad lessons we had when I was young.

I posted about TRT being legal and public opinion has changed on testosterone (as well as pot). I’m not endorsing pot and particularly during driving (including alcohol - yet strangely there’s parking available at bars ).

[Booz]

I have always told each and every partner I’ve had after I started using….
Probably after a few months.
Never had anyone bin me off coz of it…
Must be my big cock!

[Honkey_Kong]

My TRT is legal and my insurance pays for it. In act it brings my testosterone levels arguably higher than they should be for my age, because an exact number isn’t known. Hell every time I watch ESPN or sometimes a ball game I’ll see commercials with ex-athletes promoting testosterone supplements. I’d say public opinion has been changed quite a bit, just like that of pot. Personally driving on public streets with a bunch of dudes on tren with road rage isn’t something I want to see legal.

Prox, we're not talking about TRT here.

[wango]

Prox, we're not talking about TRT here.

Prox is dead and gone. Not only can you not read my name, you can’t read what you posted.

AAS includes testosterone, you posted AAS. I recommend that you post more clearly what you mean next time. And to your point; acceptance of it has in fact increased over the years. Unfortunately because of the baseball steroid bs, it sunk your chances of overall acceptance as being not very likely, as much as you want to campaign for it.

[Cornish]

My fiance knows everything. Fuck...if I didn't tell her, there'd be no her. The things I say when simply driving in heavy traffic on Tren is enough to scare anybody away!

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[Mooseman33]

prox why do u get so uoset when u get called that? u are a history guy, we cant forget the past.

[wango]

Another guy seeing ghosts or has paranoid obsessions that the poster is a sock account of Kimbo.

If you’re so sure I’m prox then petition admin to change my name, re-adjust the start date and if I’m not mistaken change it back to a red knowledgeable member. Then if I am officially “prox” I will respond to it.

Now for some who was so pissed when someone changed topics on his thread about insurance, aren’t you in fact now doing the same thing? My, my my - in your words - how disrespectful.

BTW, happy new year.

[JTP$]

My TRT is legal and my insurance pays for it. In act it brings my testosterone levels arguably higher than they should be for my age, because an exact number isn’t known. Hell every time I watch ESPN or sometimes a ball game I’ll see commercials with ex-athletes promoting testosterone supplements. I’d say public opinion has been changed quite a bit, just like that of pot. Personally driving on public streets with a bunch of dudes on tren with road rage isn’t something I want to see legal.

man, i wish my insurance would pay for my TRT, things just keep getting more and more expensive.

on the original topic of this thread though, i must emphasize again from my own personal experience with dating, never expose yourself. this includes actually caring about the relationship. enjoy it for what it is, but dont give her ammo to screw you over. females think they are entitled to know everything about their man, but i guarantee you, shes keeping secrets from him too

[wango]

Yup, I moved away from the OP’s topic to address a post. But, to your point, good insurance is a sweet thing; it pays for my boner meds too.

To discuss personal stuff with someone you’re dating casually? With no potential future?
No, no, no!

[JTP$]

Yup, I moved away from the OP’s topic to address a post. But, to your point, good insurance is a sweet thing; it pays for my boner meds too.

To discuss personal stuff with someone you’re dating casually? With no potential future?
No, no, no!

i used to think of insurance as a complete scam, but having employer provided health and dental insurance is very nice

[teedoff]

i used to think of insurance as a complete scam, but having employer provided health and dental insurance is very nice

Honestly, it is a scam of sorts. Car and health/life insurance. But the cost of car repairs and especially health care, is so astronomical, we have no choice but to have them both.

What I have issues with, is the insurance writers do everything in their power to NOT pay for things. You have a medical condition, it better not be pre existing or we wont pay. You have to have extended rehab, we only pay for 10 sessions. You die, you better die the right way or we'll deny payouts.