subcutaneous testosterone injections?

[JdFlex]

My trt doctor (Harvard medical school) has informed me that subcutaneous testosterone shots are now approved by the medical community. I've been doing them for 6 months and my blood tests confirm my #s have stayed at the same levels as intramuscular injections. Anyone else doing them? Wow much easier injection to actually perform!

This is from a google search......

"Major medical associations recognize subcutaneous (SC) testosterone injections as a safe and effective alternative to the traditional intramuscular (IM) route.
Subcutaneous administration is supported by clinical data showing comparable testosterone levels to IM injections, with potential advantages for patients."

[almostgone]

Yeah man, sub-q injections have been a thing for quite some time now. A couple of clinics are even prescribing daily micro doses of T with sub-q injections.

I pretty much stick with 2x/week IM I injections, but there's a lot of guys doing sub-q injects.

[JdFlex]

I'm sick of hitting nerves in my quads. I can't reach glute or delt injections by myself. Subq is a savior for me.

[JdFlex]

I'm always the last one to hear of any news in my personal life so not surprised to hear subq has been around for years.

[almostgone]

I know how you feel, man. It's hard to stay current.
Good to see you online.

[almostgone]

Since we're on the subject, what's your protocol, JD? Are you daily micro dosing or 2x/week? What dosage are you injecting?

[JdFlex]

I inject 0.5ml, 100mgs, every Saturday morning into abdomen subq. I haven't strength trained in years. I lost most of my muscle. Advanced arthritis. I've had multiple joints replaced and/or reconstructed and still need more. 100% disabled. I'm actually amazed at the amount of muscle I did retain for a guy who spends most of his time on the couch. My Dr says its the testosterone.

I'm gonna see if I can pull off this HIT workout in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i45MQ0B0SEA

[Cylon357]

Sub-q is all I have ever done. I have better luck with injecting in the glute region than the belly, but that could just be me. There is not nearly as much bruising or lumping in the glutes versus belly fat for me at least.

[almostgone]

What's your protocol, Cy? Dosage and injection frequency, please.

[Cylon357]

Hey AG! I am PRESCRIBED 140mg per week, .35mg 2x per week. But I'm only on that about half the time lol! Right now, I'm doing about 160mg test c, with 100 to 120 mast p, because I have blood work in a couple of months. That means I am doing 3 to 4 shots a week, sub-q, but that's ok because the P does better EOD or ED. I know you know this, just putting it out there for the next person to come along that might not! Other than that, I'm just doing HCG right now, about 750iu per week, in 3 250iu sub-q injections.

[almostgone]

So you're injecting .35 twice per week sub-q when you're on just your scripted T dosage?

Hope you're doing well, Cy!

[Cylon357]

I'm making it, brother! Work opened a can of whoop ass on me, but I'm getting that shit under control.

And yep, just .35 2x per week when I'm only on TRT doses. Seems to keep me around 800 or 900 total, mid to upper end free.

As an aside and a topic shift, I nearly screwed the pooch about 3 weeks ago. I have some amps I am trying to use, so I woke up one morning, cracked one open and drew a dose. I was thinking I had grabbed the test C amp, and as I'm drawing I remember thinking "huh, that is a nice golden color, like real golden. Must be from a different batch." Was just about ready to inject .35 and thought, no, that shit is beautiful. I need to see what that is.

It was fucking tren A. I had some amps that were close to expiring and had switched some into one box. Anyhow, I caught my mistake and was like well shit, that would have been... interesting! lol

[almostgone]

It would be a shame to waste it,lol.

Not that you would get any benefit, but the economics of the whole thing and missing the opportunity to have a nice sore site or a coughing jag would have made me go for it.

[Booz]

Just to keep this going what for any interestead party?s is amount of oil you guys would advise to use subQ in one go.
Never used oil subQ only growth and b12.

[Booz]

Just to keep this going what for any interestead party?s is amount of oil you guys would advise to use subQ in one go.
Never used oil subQ only growth and b12.

[Cylon357]

Hey Booz! Personally, I like to keep it at .50 ml or less, usually around .40. I HAVE gone as high as .65ml. I do mine in the glute region, sort of pinching up some skin and injecting into that. I find way less bruising and lumping when injecting in the glute area versus the abdomen. That could just be me. Regardless, a few seconds of rubbing it into the area seems to help.

Regarding lumps, SO much of that seems to depend on carrier oil. The lab I use the most uses GSO and it very rarely lumps up. I've used a lab with peach oil, and it lumped but was not painful. US Pharma cottonseed oil has never given me any problems that I recall. None of those have really been problematic, just putting it out there!

[Booz]

Hey Cy 👍
I?m going to micro dose again but like I said never used subQ for oil.
Cheers for the info 👍

[RON]

As someone who loves running cycles with short esters this is crazy to me. I wish I knew this 20 years ago. Not all muscles feel good when you stick a needle in them.

[almostgone]

LOL, I know. When I first heard about sub-q HRT I was blindsided, but when I read and looked at some of the TRT protocols the clinics were prescribing, I was intrigued.

[Cylon357]

The real reason I stick with sub-q is because of volume. I consider IM to be a "gateway" to more volume, and I know if I open that door, I'm concerned that I will end up shooting a gram of gear a week lol!

I've done various esters of test sub-q... test base, cyp, pp and prop. The base lumped up more than the others.

I've also done mast p and e, plus npp sub-q without issues. Carrier oil seems to be the big factor on how well sub-q sits with me. GSO works great, peach tree oil lumped the one time I tried it. Too bad, too because that peach tree oil flowed smooth and fast.

All of that in the category of TMI...