Unsure how much i should consume pro/dex after workout when on cutting cycle

[will86]

Hey, when i was bulking my 2 PWO meals consisted of a 45 g Protein and 125 g dex shake and a solid meal with the same ratio of macronutrients as the shake. Now i'm thinking there would be no point in consuming that much carbs pwo and ppwo since i'm not lifting the same way as i am while on a cutting phase. Should i half the amount of carbs in both meals or should i keep it the same? Also, is it ideal to have 1 pro/carb meal everday when cutting?(was thinking about 3/4 cup of oats)

[daman1]

Hey, when i was bulking my 2 PWO meals consisted of a 45 g Protein and 125 g dex shake and a solid meal with the same ratio of macronutrients as the shake. Now i'm thinking there would be no point in consuming that much carbs pwo and ppwo since i'm not lifting the same way as i am while on a cutting phase. Should i half the amount of carbs in both meals or should i keep it the same? Also, is it ideal to have 1 pro/carb meal everday when cutting?(was thinking about 3/4 cup of oats)

I would cut back the dex. to almost equal with your protein, maybe a little more. Shoot for 45-55g.

[will86]

should i consume the same amount of carbs in my solid PPWO meal?

[SwoleCat]

Will,

I see you have posted all kinds of these questions here in many diff. threads looking for bits and pieces of info to piece together a "plan". I know you were on my SUP2 program, and all I can tell you is this. (well, u should have continued with me in cutting, as that is crucial after SUP2, but that's another story)

Your amounts PWO don't change.....cutting the dextrose in half is NOT what you do. Again, u are not on SGX, but the LIFTING ON SGX is just as imperative as it is on SUP2.......the message we are sending our muscles is still the SAME MESSAGE, that never changes!

I know you are not on my SGX program, but if you were you'd see that does not change. Cardio, all other meals, (and the macro ratios), and supplements are what change.

Bummer you could not continue w/me! Good luck......

~SC~

[usualsuspect]

should i consume the same amount of carbs in my solid PPWO meal?

Well, if your total calorie intake drops just adjust the ratios to your new daily calorie requirements. Let's say 40% of your cals were coming from carbs while you were bulking up. Now your cutting and you start with 30% of your cals coming from carbs...then simply adjust accordingly.

This isn't chinese arithemetic bro...just keep things simple.

~US~

[will86]

Yeah it is a bummer, but i feel as if i'm taking the easy way out paying someone to make me a custom diet and training routine instead of researching and experimenting on my own. Thanks for being there for me on SUP2.

[Elliot]

Yeah it is a bummer, but i feel as if i'm taking the easy way out paying someone to make me a custom diet and training routine instead of researching and experimenting on my own. Thanks for being there for me on SUP2.

that really baffeld me.. its liek saying NO I DONT WANT TO LERN ABOUT COMPUTERS FROM THAT GODFORBIN "COLLEGE" I'LL DO IT ON MY OWN@#!#! dude.. you really something else if someone is willing to give you a working product and explain to you why it works and you say no i wanna do it on my own your just being stubborn..

[usualsuspect]

Nothing is wrong with experimenting to find out what works for you, but first you need a starting point and a plan of attack in order to get to where you want to go. The money you will shell out to Swole is hardly anything when considering what you'll get in return. From there you could experiment and further perfect the diet to you liking. It will save you much frustration in the long-run.

[daman1]

Nothing is wrong with experimenting to find out what works for you, but first you need a starting point and a plan of attack in order to get to where you want to go. The money you will shell out to Swole is hardly anything when considering what you'll get in return. From there you could experiment and further perfect the diet to you liking. It will save you much frustration in the long-run.

Agreed. What I said was what I found when using dex. Not by any means "right." Good point US.

[SwoleCat]

I applaud your efforts for wanting to learn on your own, that is great!

I just felt it to be a bummer as you had done so well on SUP2, and learned about that, that you may not have thought about doin' SGX, which is a lightning fast cutter.

Press on bro, thanks for runnin' SUP2.

~SC~

[Valmont]

Mr. X is great at this. Have you checked out any of his worksheets?

He has several posts on his board-it is very easy too follow.

Will, good question by the way.

In caps..

THAT IS WHAT THESE BOARDS ARE FOR BRO!!!!!!!!!

[SwoleCat]

Yeah, that's my buddy (Mr. X).

Maybe his CKD manual or something else would work.

I believe Will was wanting to get away from a CKD though, and for good reason.......


~SC~

[Valmont]

Buddy-huh??? I liked the way he bitch slapped you over at Elite. He owns you, but at least you know that now.

Besides I do agree with you, he is definetly triing to get away from something.