No Test Cycle

[palequail]

Ok boys, I met this dude in the gym today...He is about 6'0 220 and completely shredded....He looks insane..no joke. Anyway we were talking and I asked him what he was on.

He told me Tren, Deca, and Winny. I told him what no test? He says he just takes provirion and that works fine to keep his libido going. Anyways I believe test should be in a cycle, but i'm curious as to why it would work with him, anyone got any ideas, and would you try a cycle like that????

[TRE]

Some people arn't affected by deca dick, if you want to try thats your choice. Tren and Deca...........ouch

[floyd_turbo]

trens an extremely potent androgen and/or he may have unusually high natural test levels

ft-

[palequail]

Some people arn't affected by deca dick, if you want to try thats your choice. Tren and Deca...........ouch

He basically told me he stays away from test....I normally don't try to model people but he looked very good. Then there is Dennis Newman. Read an interview and he said his stacks were like: Parabolan, Primo, Winny, Anavar, Masteron, and Growth. No test at all. He said he stays away from Androgenic steroids and sticks with Anabolic ones. I don't get why they get away with that, anyone tried cycles without test?? or dosen't everyone just take that as truth, that you need test.

[inheritmylife]

His stack could work great, so long as he is taking enough proviron. Proviron is really just DHT and is usually prescribed to treat forms of sexual disfunction and impotence. It isnt test, but it does add the important part of test, DHT, the natural male androgen.

We always advise that test be run at higher levels than all other compounds in our cycles, but this is only important to me because test is cheap, available, and effective. So long as androgen levels are kept high enough, I'm not sure that running test higher (as an iron set rule) is necessary. So, simply running a good dose of test, or DHT substitute may be sufficient.

[palequail]

That is basically what I figured...I like my test, But I are starting to realize that it isn't a necessity....I know others that don't use it and have great gains....but I think it depends on the stack..

[inheritmylife]

He basically told me he stays away from test....I normally don't try to model people but he looked very good. Then there is Dennis Newman. Read an interview and he said his stacks were like: Parabolan, Primo, Winny, Anavar, Masteron, and Growth. No test at all. He said he stays away from Androgenic steroids and sticks with Anabolic ones. I don't get why they get away with that, anyone tried cycles without test?? or dosen't everyone just take that as truth, that you need test.

Test is great because it keeps us horny and motivated. But it only does this because it converts to DHT, and is capable of activating the androgen receptor itself (all steroids can do this).

I think the DHT is the important part.

[palequail]

Test is great because it keeps us horny and motivated. But it only does this because it converts to DHT, and is capable of activating the androgen receptor itself (all steroids can do this).

I think the DHT is the important part.

I agree..thanks for the input...as long as I can still get it up I am happy.

[decadbal]

test is way overated, and i usually dont involve it with my cycles, sometimes ill use sust, but not as much as it is bragged about here, i dont think its that great, nor healthy... plenty of great cycles can be run without test in it...

[inheritmylife]

test is way overated, and i usually dont involve it with my cycles, sometimes ill use sust, but not as much as it is bragged about here, i dont think its that great, nor healthy... plenty of great cycles can be run without test in it...

A good cycle can still be put together without building it around test. But for the most part, I think it is a smart idea to include simply for the fact that it keeps androgen levels high, spec. DHT.

Pound for pound, I still think it is on the top of the list.

[barbarian]

they can, but what other drug puts on the strenth, mass, the feeling you get, hard ons from hell, wake up feeelin great, totaly motavated all day!!! like test does NOTHIN thats why TEST TEST TEST IS BEST!!!!!!!

[TheMudMan]

Proviron is a big help in cycles that shut you down extreamly hard......... or if you're not running test in your cycle. It's actually beter than viagra....... you can pretty much control your hard-ons.

[inheritmylife]

they can, but what other drug puts on the strenth, mass, the feeling you get, hard ons from hell, wake up feeelin great, totaly motavated all day!!! like test does NOTHIN thats why TEST TEST TEST IS BEST!!!!!!!

I don't suppose you are partial to test are you?

[barbarian]

what makes you think that?? LOL

[toolman]

palequail....most importantly that is one fine avtar!

[blowout247]

I am always a fan of Palequail's Avatar Choice. GOOD EATIN!!!!!!!!!!!