Ken and Frank Shamrock

[nickrizz]

i didnt know that those two had a little bit of a fallout a while ago, anyone else know anything about this?

[BOUNCER]

Yes.

[nickrizz]

i think frank is much of a better fighter than ken. ken paved the way but frank perfected submission fighting

[ironfist]

They have been split for awhile now...Both have their own gyms...

[nickrizz]

I read an interview with frank and he said he wants to open a gym with ken, but i dont see that happening. ken never wanted to train frank

[KAEW44]

Well Ken is one of the pioneers of MMA in the states who is a bit outpowered/outskilled these days against the fighters of this generaton, and Frank was a great fighter that retired before he faced the new generation that Ken is struggling with these days. Frank did have a recent match up but not against anyone great.

When the Lion's den first formed Frank was a part of it, but i think that the lions den wich was really good for a short while started to get really really bad, al their fighters started sucking big time wich could have been some influence for frank to leave and start his own leage of fighters he trained. I think Frank knew he could train better fighter outside the 'lion's den image' and also he could make tons of money being solo, wich he does since he has seminars all year around wich arent cheap to go to.