Chuck showed no class!!!

[Steakeater]

I thought it was pretty shitty that Chuck did not even make an effort to shake hands with Randy after the fight. I have alwasy liked both of these fighters, but that was tasteless of Chuck. As a fighter myself, sportsmanship is what holds this sport together.

Steak

[sonar1234]

I thought it was pretty shitty that Chuck did not even make an effort to shake hands with Randy after the fight. I have alwasy liked both of these fighters, but that was tasteless of Chuck. As a fighter myself, sportsmanship is what holds this sport together.

Steak

Must admit that its kind of weird, they seem to be good buddies in real life too.

[craneboy]

cuck fhuck!

[sp9]

I have heard people say it was a suprise to Dana White about the retirement. I am about positive it was not a suprise at all. Chuck probably knew that they needed time with Randy for his announcement, should Randy lose. Plus Chuck has to go clubbing with his GF that was crying the whole time.

[swizole]

give chuck a break, after all he is the ice man

[catabolic kid]

It is ok, maybe Rampage will come and work his "Whoop that Ass" strategy on Chuck again. After that, Chuck will not be running around the ring screaming like he did last night after knocking out one of the best and most respectful MMA fighters of all time....who would have embarrassed him even more than he did in the first match if he were in his prime.

[swizole]

"respectful MMA fighters of all time....who would have embarrassed him even more than he did in the first match if he were in his prime."


If grandma had balls she's be granpa

[catabolic kid]

"respectful MMA fighters of all time....who would have embarrassed him even more than he did in the first match if he were in his prime."


If grandma had balls she's be granpa

Did you see the first match? Now, if you can, try to imagine what Randy would have done when he was Chucks age. It is not like he never beat Chuck and I am saying he would have...he did, and if he were not 42 years old (you know that makes a difference, right?) he would have put Chuck on his head. How many fighters do you know, that are among the best in the world in their class are 42 years of age?

Do you think that Mike Tyson was a better fighter than the last few guys he lost to. Maybe that exmple will clear things up for you.

[Hunter]

"respectful MMA fighters of all time....who would have embarrassed him even more than he did in the first match if he were in his prime."


If grandma had balls she's be granpa

You my friend are an Idiot. When Randy was in his prime he easily could have been considered the best in the world. Look at his resume instead of saying stupid shit. Chuck is in his prime right now Randy in my eyes is still top 5 or top 6 depending on how you see it. Remember Shogun is now a heavyweight.
1)Chuck
2)Silva
3)Arona
4)lil Nog
5)couture
I personally think Couture would beat Silva,Arona and lil' Nog but that doesn't matter. Fact is he is a top 6 at the lowest lightheavy weight. So you should study up some and make an intelligent post.

[catabolic kid]

You my friend are an Idiot. When Randy was in his prime he easily could have been considered the best in the world. Look at his resume instead of saying stupid shit. Chuck is in his prime right now Randy in my eyes is still top 5 or top 6 depending on how you see it. Remember Shogun is now a heavyweight.
1)Chuck
2)Silva
3)Arona
4)lil Nog
5)couture
I personally think Couture would beat Silva,Arona and lil' Nog but that doesn't matter. Fact is he is a top 6 at the lowest lightheavy weight. So you should study up some and make an intelligent post.

Thank you! I tihnk your list is accurate for the time being. If you were to look at rankings from top mma sites from about 2 years ago (when Randy was 40) he was number one....I think it is a great accomplisment in to be No. 1 in MMA....sepecially at 40! Also, even now at 42...this guy is still one of the best. Like I said, does anyone think Tyson was not as good a fighter as the last couple of guys to beat him? Hell no, there is no comparsion! Please give the guy some credit for stepping into the octagon in his forties and beating some of the best in the world.

[swizole]

[QUOTE=mn_fighter]You my friend are an Idiot. When Randy was in his prime he easily could have been considered the best in the world. Look at his resume instead of saying stupid shit. Chuck is in his prime right now Randy in my eyes is still top 5 or top 6 depending on how you see it. Remember Shogun is now a heavyweight. QUOTE]

Listen I am not saying Randy is not a badass, and I do think that he is still one of the best in the world. All I am saying is no one is making him get in the octagon, it is his decision. If he feels at his age he is in good enough shape to beat tough guys than age is out the window. I mean look at cotoure, he is in a lot better shape than Chuck. All I am saying is give Chuck a little credit. He beat him, and he coulda beat him five years ago. Right now everyone is down on Chuck for beating Randy just because Randy is old. Thats bullshit, Chuck did what he had to do. Its not like Chuck was in the middle of the octagon talking shit and calling Randy out, they both wanted to fight for the tie-breaker.

[catabolic kid]

Listen I am not saying Randy is not a badass, and I do think that he is still one of the best in the world. All I am saying is no one is making him get in the octagon, it is his decision. If he feels at his age he is in good enough shape to beat tough guys than age is out the window. I mean look at cotoure, he is in a lot better shape than Chuck. All I am saying is give Chuck a little credit. He beat him, and he coulda beat him five years ago. Right now everyone is down on Chuck for beating Randy just because Randy is old. Thats bullshit, Chuck did what he had to do. Its not like Chuck was in the middle of the octagon talking shit and calling Randy out, they both wanted to fight for the tie-breaker.[/QUOTE]

I see your point. The point of the thread was that Chuck showed no class. I agree with that, he should of at least shook Couture's hand.

[swizole]

true.

[Tedbear981]

You my friend are an Idiot. When Randy was in his prime he easily could have been considered the best in the world. Look at his resume instead of saying stupid shit. Chuck is in his prime right now Randy in my eyes is still top 5 or top 6 depending on how you see it. Remember Shogun is now a heavyweight.
1)Chuck
2)Silva
3)Arona
4)lil Nog
5)couture
I personally think Couture would beat Silva,Arona and lil' Nog but that doesn't matter. Fact is he is a top 6 at the lowest lightheavy weight. So you should study up some and make an intelligent post.

I would move chuck to 4th on that list bro..big time...prob 5th for me, below Rampage...heres how it should go
1.Silva
2.Arona
3.Lil Nog
4.Rampage
5.Lidell

[swizole]

I would move chuck to 4th on that list bro..big time...prob 5th for me, below Rampage...heres how it should go
1.Silva
2.Arona
3.Lil Nog
4.Rampage
5.Lidell

bullshit...

[yourmom]

Silvia would make chuck his bitch (unless Chuck eye gouged him)

[soo2bhuge]

I have heard people say it was a suprise to Dana White about the retirement. I am about positive it was not a suprise at all. Chuck probably knew that they needed time with Randy for his announcement, should Randy lose. Plus Chuck has to go clubbing with his GF that was crying the whole time.

supposedly, Randy had a 3 fight contract pending, had he won this fight. but i think he did the right thing and stepped away.

[Hunter]

Silvia would make chuck his bitch (unless Chuck eye gouged him)

It would be a good fight. Chuck lost to rampage but he is a much better fighter now and also MMA math doesn't work. It would be a very competitive fight. Also Silva is a great fighter but his recorded his padded with alot of cans. Very competitive fight also if your going to make a statement you should try to back it up

[Tedbear981]

bullshit...

ok...why? way to back up a response bro..

[Hunter]

I would move chuck to 4th on that list bro..big time...prob 5th for me, below Rampage...heres how it should go
1.Silva
2.Arona
3.Lil Nog
4.Rampage
5.Lidell

I must say you are a true pride fan(no offense). First Chuck lost to Rampage 3 years ago. Since then Rampage has not done anything impressive besides the knockout of Arona. Lil' Nog beat Henderson great win but Henderson should have fought at 183 if Pride would have had it his whole career, he beat Alistar another solid win(decision) then lost a UD to shogun impressive also. So two solid wins, Alistar is not even top 6. that does not put him in the top 3. Silva is arguably number one after beating Arona. Arona has one good win and thats Silva(bad style match up for silva). Liddell knocked out Couture twice very impressive even with Coutures age plus avenging his loss to Horn. Liddell has looked very impressive seems to be in the best shape of his life and very good lateral movement. Now I could see the arguement for Silva to be number one, however Arona should not be number 2 it should be chuck just based on accomplishements. Then you get to number 3 could arguably be Arona since Lil' Nog does not have very many great wins(recently). So putting him at 4(lil Nog) makes sense now 5 and 6 could either be considered Couture or Rampage depending how you look at it. Liddell has alot more impressive wins then Lil Nog, Arona and Rampage but Rampage beat him(best win of his Career). So I think just looking at recent accomplishements Liddell would come in at number 1 or 2 depending on how you feel about it,

[Steakeater]

This post ended up in left field. I personally think Randy is the better of the two fighters, BUT age is the difference. If Randy and Chuck were the same age, Randy, Hands down. As I said before, I do like Chuck, but thatwas shitty of him not recognizing Randy after the fight. That's my $0.02...


Steak

[gymnutt]

I personally think Randy is the better of the two fighters, BUT age is the difference. If Randy and Chuck were the same age, Randy, Hands down. As I said before, I do like Chuck, but thatwas shitty of him not recognizing Randy after the fight. That's my $0.02...


Steak

Respecting your opinion. Consider this. Randy is 42. Chuck is 35. Chuck did his first pro mma event in 1998; UFC 17 at 29 years old. Randy did his first pro mma event in 1997;UFC 13; at 35 years old. I wonder what sort of mma experience Randy had at 29? He was obviously a badazz olyympic calibre wrestler before, but do you think his wrestling would beat a 29 yo who already held 2 kickboxing international rules titles and had wrestled and started in a tough conference throughout college? No disrespect to Randy but all things being equal, I think Chuck would have knocked him out had they both been in their "prime". That said if they were wrestling greco-roman..I would give it to Randy.

[Tedbear981]

I must say you are a true pride fan(no offense). First Chuck lost to Rampage 3 years ago. Since then Rampage has not done anything impressive besides the knockout of Arona. Lil' Nog beat Henderson great win but Henderson should have fought at 183 if Pride would have had it his whole career, he beat Alistar another solid win(decision) then lost a UD to shogun impressive also. So two solid wins, Alistar is not even top 6. that does not put him in the top 3. Silva is arguably number one after beating Arona. Arona has one good win and thats Silva(bad style match up for silva). Liddell knocked out Couture twice very impressive even with Coutures age plus avenging his loss to Horn. Liddell has looked very impressive seems to be in the best shape of his life and very good lateral movement. Now I could see the arguement for Silva to be number one, however Arona should not be number 2 it should be chuck just based on accomplishements. Then you get to number 3 could arguably be Arona since Lil' Nog does not have very many great wins(recently). So putting him at 4(lil Nog) makes sense now 5 and 6 could either be considered Couture or Rampage depending how you look at it. Liddell has alot more impressive wins then Lil Nog, Arona and Rampage but Rampage beat him(best win of his Career). So I think just looking at recent accomplishements Liddell would come in at number 1 or 2 depending on how you feel about it,

Liddell has many very impressive wins and I think he is the only 205er that could challenge(and possibly win) the middleweight championship in Pride. My reasoning for a few of my picks is this. Liddell is taylor made for Rampage, look at the first fight( I agree chuck has gotten more refined since then) but Rampage dominated the entire fight leaving dana to make excuses. I also think Chuck matches up like shit vs Silva, Silva has faster hands better legs and can take anything chuck can dish out(ie He took crocops best and hunts best who are both better strikers than chuck) so I might update my list after listening to some of youre points but the best chuck comes out on mine is 3rd, here
1. Silva
2.Rampage
3.Liddell
4.Arona
5.Little Nog
I am no including Couture because he is retired or Shogun because he is moving up.

[AX_Tanned_Bouncer]

chuck would whoop him at any age bro

[Hunter]

Liddell has many very impressive wins and I think he is the only 205er that could challenge(and possibly win) the middleweight championship in Pride. My reasoning for a few of my picks is this. Liddell is taylor made for Rampage, look at the first fight( I agree chuck has gotten more refined since then) but Rampage dominated the entire fight leaving dana to make excuses. I also think Chuck matches up like shit vs Silva, Silva has faster hands better legs and can take anything chuck can dish out(ie He took crocops best and hunts best who are both better strikers than chuck) so I might update my list after listening to some of youre points but the best chuck comes out on mine is 3rd, here
1. Silva
2.Rampage
3.Liddell
4.Arona
5.Little Nog
I am no including Couture because he is retired or Shogun because he is moving up.

I agree on style makes matches but that not how rankings are based. They are based on accomplishements. Thats why Rampage is not high on the list, I hate to say it but he hasn't really been the same since his loss to Silva(2nd one). Styles do make matches but thats not how rankings are done they are done on accomplishements and Rampages domination of chuck 3 years ago can not get him 2nd on the list.

[Tedbear981]

I agree rankings arent based on style matchups...Rampage HOUSED Liddell, therefore he is higher on the list no matter what accomplishments they have had since..Thats the way rankings work....it doesnt matter if the fighters have changed since..until they fight again(mouth watering) Rampage is ranked higher...

[Hunter]

I agree rankings arent based on style matchups...Rampage HOUSED Liddell, therefore he is higher on the list no matter what accomplishments they have had since..Thats the way rankings work....it doesnt matter if the fighters have changed since..until they fight again(mouth watering) Rampage is ranked higher...

Rampage must be your favorite fighter. That fight was three years ago, Rampage hasn't looked good for a long time. He got tooled by Shogun, Wandx2, got a split decision against Ninja(should be 183 pounder). Rampage needs alot more credible wins now to move above chuck. Chuck has knocked out couture twice and a verbal submission against Horn. Only person to ever knock out couture was Liddell. Also 3 years ago is a long time and its based on recent achievements within the past two years. Chuck holds the UFC LHW belt. Rampage does not have any achievements to warrant the number two spot. Sorry Rampage needs to build himself back up. I would put chuck, wandy, arona, babulu all in front of Rampage. He is a great fighter but needs to put together a win streak to be back in top 5. Then shogun would be below Sobral and wandy couldn't be above belfort and ortiz becouse they never got rematches. Dude that doesn't make sense when its been 3 years if diff org's then yes one can rise above the other one without a rematch

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