joe calzaghie v jeff lacy

[spencer]

whos gonna win???

i reckon joe in the 5th.

[paddy155]

joe in the 10th

[spencer]

hmmmm

[simm]

Lacey by decision..calzage always seems 2 break his hands!!

[spencer]

Lacey by decision..calzage always seems 2 break his hands!!

lol. calzaghie defo for me

[spencer]

easy easy easy easy easy easy

[Wordsworth]

Turned out to be not much of a fight...Calzaghe pretty much dominated every round.

[simm]

oh well wrong again...lol

[energizer bunny]

Calzaghe kicked his ass, thought Lacy would of done better but you cant fault calzaghe excellent boxer, 41 fights unbeaten since 1997 what a record. Do you guys think he should move up a weight? and do you think he could beat Clinton Woods?

[Box This*]

Maybe people will realise now that Calzaghe is the best super middle wieght of our time.

Roy jones jr ducked him

Hopkins didnt want to move up to fight him

and now tarver is about to realise hes nothing but medioka !! because after seeing Calzaghe hit 10 kinds of shit out of the up and coming super star of boxing and seeing the incredible hand speed and accuracy of a true champion.

Seeing Calzaghe fight like that...in my eyes Roy Jones is a pile of shit DUCKING SHIT HOUSE.

[Box This*]

Calzaghe kicked his ass, thought Lacy would of done better but you cant fault calzaghe excellent boxer, 41 fights unbeaten since 1997 what a record. Do you guys think he should move up a weight? and do you think he could beat Clinton Woods?

Clinton woods is a good boxer but not no where near in the same class as Calzaghe.

[energizer bunny]

[QUOTE=Box This*]Maybe people will realise now that Calzaghe is the best super middle wieght of our time.

Totally agree his performance last night was inspiring, 3.30 am and all i wanted to do was get my self to the gym and start training a was BUZZING. Looking forward to boxing on tuesday.

[stee]

he really did put the gloves on him. i think he will go after a couple more fights. i take my hat off to him tho. da iawn, well done joe you flew our flag with pride this morning.

[Box This*]

he really did put the gloves on him. i think he will go after a couple more fights. i take my hat off to him tho. da iawn, well done joe you flew our flag with pride this morning.

I just want him to take his face to america and fight tarver then retire

[stee]

yeah it would be a good fight. dont quote me on any predictions but i think joe wants it. like he said at ring side he wants a few big fights. hes after the payday more i reckon, but saying that i dont think he will sacrifice his reputation for a few dollors unlike other champs who have walked before him.
if he is on form though i think he will live with anyone at supermiddle or light heavyweight.

[BOUNCER]

he really did put the gloves on him. i think he will go after a couple more fights. i take my hat off to him tho. da iawn, well done joe you flew our flag with pride this morning.

Yup....

[Tedbear981]

Maybe people will realise now that Calzaghe is the best super middle wieght of our time.

Roy jones jr ducked him

Hopkins didnt want to move up to fight him

and now tarver is about to realise hes nothing but medioka !! because after seeing Calzaghe hit 10 kinds of shit out of the up and coming super star of boxing and seeing the incredible hand speed and accuracy of a true champion.

Seeing Calzaghe fight like that...in my eyes Roy Jones is a pile of shit DUCKING SHIT HOUSE.

There you go, get all that roy jones hating aggression out...now breathe deep and realize that Joe will never be in the same class as Roy...thanks!

[TREN-dy_Party_Dancer]

Lacy was done after the 3-4th round the fight have been stop def after 7-8 rounds not worth his corner sucks..they could have faked an injury..ankle..shoulder..something he is a shot fighter he was slurring his words and really slow after the fight ..it didnt help he was sleeping in the same hotel room as his "new" GF...

[Tedbear981]

Lacy was done after the 3-4th round the fight have been stop def after 7-8 rounds not worth his corner sucks..they could have faked an injury..ankle..shoulder..something he is a shot fighter he was slurring his words and really slow after the fight ..it didnt help he was sleeping in the same hotel room as his "new" GF...

How is he a shot fighter? he's young and hasnt fought that much, Joe put a whipping on him but Joe is a top 10 pound for pound fighter....Give Jeff some time, he'll be back...Now I really wanna see Joe Beat the snot out of Tarver...

[stee]

There you go, get all that roy jones hating aggression out...now breathe deep and realize that Joe will never be in the same class as Roy...thanks!

The trouble with the americans is they never give any top ranked boxer form this part of the world any respect. fact is they are champions for a reason, if any one has ducked fighters its Jones, he moved up to light heavy to duck Steve Collins then was talking about going to Heavy When collins said he will follow him, the fact of the matter is Jones didnt like it because he knew Collins wouldnt have let him have a nice easy fight and like Steve said he dont care about the pay day "i will fight him infront af 2 men and their dogs". Joe has been in the same boat. How long do you have to be world champion for untill other champions shut up and put up. In my eyes Roy was a great boxer but will never be as great as his repuation because of the respect he threw away by not going through other champions. loser

[Tedbear981]

The trouble with the americans is they never give any top ranked boxer form this part of the world any respect. fact is they are champions for a reason, if any one has ducked fighters its Jones, he moved up to light heavy to duck Steve Collins then was talking about going to Heavy When collins said he will follow him, the fact of the matter is Jones didnt like it because he knew Collins wouldnt have let him have a nice easy fight and like Steve said he dont care about the pay day "i will fight him infront af 2 men and their dogs". Joe has been in the same boat. How long do you have to be world champion for untill other champions shut up and put up. In my eyes Roy was a great boxer but will never be as great as his repuation because of the respect he threw away by not going through other champions. loser

Not going through other champions?? Let me see off hand, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Virgil Hill, Vinny Pazienza, Thulane M****ga, Jorge Vaca, Jorge Castro, Antonio Tarver, Montell Griffin, Clinton Woods, Reggie Johnson, Julio Gonzalez, John Ruiz(i know i know a stretch) ....all champions, He was also voted fighter of the decade for the 90's by Ring magazine and topped the top ten pound for pound fighters for 8 years... If you wanna bring up collins, he ducked Calzaghe for years the pulled out of their fight and retired..I picked Joe to beat Lacy(and one some money on the fight) I just think Joe neats to fight a Name fighter like Tarver to secure his place in boxing history. I give fighters from "your part of the world" a lot of respect, I have been a big fan of Hatton for years, I also spent 10 years of my life in huddersfield...

[stee]

Not going through other champions?? Let me see off hand, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Nigel Benn, Virgil Hill, Vinny Pazienza, Thulane M****ga, Jorge Vaca, Jorge Castro, Antonio Tarver, Montell Griffin, Clinton Woods, Reggie Johnson, Julio Gonzalez, John Ruiz(i know i know a stretch) ....all champions, He was also voted fighter of the decade for the 90's by Ring magazine and topped the top ten pound for pound fighters for 8 years... If you wanna bring up collins, he ducked Calzaghe for years the pulled out of their fight and retired..I picked Joe to beat Lacy(and one some money on the fight) I just think Joe neats to fight a Name fighter like Tarver to secure his place in boxing history. I give fighters from "your part of the world" a lot of respect, I have been a big fan of Hatton for years, I also spent 10 years of my life in huddersfield...

i wasnt talking about you im talking about british fighters geting respect in america. how many world champions from britain have had a big fight in amercia in the last 15 years. not as many as there should have been.
the only true champion that was worthy of being in the ring with jones in the mid 90's was Collins. The reason he never fought Calzaghe was because ever since beating eubank he was promised a deal by jones's promotors. 2 years later and 7 defenses and he was still waiting. To be honest Jones was a clever man because he knew Collins had his number.
I was training in the gym Collins owns at the time Collins you say dodged Joe, and he never had any intention of carrying on if he didnt have Jones. Too many broken promises. And yeah those champions you named are a big stretch with the exception of Nigel Benn of course as im sure anyone who knows anything about boxing will know they never fought!

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i wasnt talking about you im talking about british fighters geting respect in america. how many world champions from britain have had a big fight in amercia in the last 15 years. not as many as there should have been.
the only true champion that was worthy of being in the ring with jones in the mid 90's was Collins.

Except Steve Collins was an Irish fighter, not British.

[stee]

Except Steve Collins was an Irish fighter, not British.

You know what i mean. I sincerely am sorry for insinuating that he isnt. Being a fellow Celt i understand where your coming from, not to mention im the only Welsh person in my family the rest are Irish and thats a subject close to home, so ill say no more.

Still dont defeat the object that Jones dodged Collins. Thought if you ask me he was dodging him because he knew what he was up against.
Its a shame calzache didnt come round a few years earlier I think Jones might have fought him thinking he would have been a walk over.
Also I think It would have been a good fight between him and Collins, if he had been around a year or 2 before Collins lost interest because of being shafted from every angle.

[Box This*]

The trouble with the americans is they never give any top ranked boxer form this part of the world any respect. fact is they are champions for a reason, if any one has ducked fighters its Jones, he moved up to light heavy to duck Steve Collins then was talking about going to Heavy When collins said he will follow him, the fact of the matter is Jones didnt like it because he knew Collins wouldnt have let him have a nice easy fight and like Steve said he dont care about the pay day "i will fight him infront af 2 men and their dogs". Joe has been in the same boat. How long do you have to be world champion for untill other champions shut up and put up. In my eyes Roy was a great boxer but will never be as great as his repuation because of the respect he threw away by not going through other champions. loser

Amen !!

[Box This*]

Jones has dodged alot of fighters but i still think hes a good fighter...as far as im concernd jones is finished...and so will Calzaghe be in 2 years or so...so please give him the respect he deserves and chear him on the fullest for when he takes out Tarver !

[stee]

Jones has dodged alot of fighters but i still think hes a good fighter...as far as im concernd jones is finished...and so will Calzaghe be in 2 years or so...so please give him the respect he deserves and chear him on the fullest for when he takes out Tarver !

In my eyes he is, i give alot of respect for these guys but its hard not to get involved in all the banter... as far as him being finished i couldnt agree more. as for joe, i havent really looked to him as i do now, he has another good 3 fights left, he aint like jones and the rest, as following in Collin's footsteps as all good boxers do, retire Champion and god willing undefeated, go do it Joe. Cymru yn tu ol i tu.

[Tedbear981]

i wasnt talking about you im talking about british fighters geting respect in america. how many world champions from britain have had a big fight in amercia in the last 15 years. not as many as there should have been.
the only true champion that was worthy of being in the ring with jones in the mid 90's was Collins. The reason he never fought Calzaghe was because ever since beating eubank he was promised a deal by jones's promotors. 2 years later and 7 defenses and he was still waiting. To be honest Jones was a clever man because he knew Collins had his number.
I was training in the gym Collins owns at the time Collins you say dodged Joe, and he never had any intention of carrying on if he didnt have Jones. Too many broken promises. And yeah those champions you named are a big stretch with the exception of Nigel Benn of course as im sure anyone who knows anything about boxing will know they never fought!

Its great that the only champion you name out of all of those guys is a c level fighter named Nigel Benn only because he's English...and you talk about us americans I also named Bernard Hopkins and James Toney, you are trying to tell me that the Head butting Nigel Benn was a better fighter than James toney and Bernard Hopkins??

[stee]

Its great that the only champion you name out of all of those guys is a c level fighter named Nigel Benn only because he's English...and you talk about us americans I also named Bernard Hopkins and James Toney, you are trying to tell me that the Head butting Nigel Benn was a better fighter than James toney and Bernard Hopkins??

no, im telling you that you know nothing about boxing. Also you have reinforced that claim on what i said about americans by telling me that im saying Benn because he is English! what has that go to do with anything? you just proved how stupid you are!!

[Tedbear981]

As you can see I edited my first post, I put in Nigel Benn mistakenly..and calm down with the stupid comments noob

[stee]

As you can see I edited my first post, I put in Nigel Benn mistakenly..and calm down with the stupid comments noob

It dont matter any way its still on my quote haha. How can you put Nigel Benn by mistake, had i said somthing to get on your tits and the red mist fell or somthing. d'oh
Ill point out another mistake for nothing, Collins never ducked Joe for years.

[Tedbear981]

It dont matter any way its still on my quote haha. How can you put Nigel Benn by mistake, had i said somthing to get on your tits and the red mist fell or somthing. d'oh
Ill point out another mistake for nothing, Collins never ducked Joe for years.

Well as I remember it, they signed to fight, then he got hurt, then before they resigned the fight he up and retired, he knew Jow was a bad match up for him and ducked out, I put in Nigel Benn because I got confused, I was thinking about how Roy and Gerald McClellan were supposed to fight but he got Hurt bad fighting Benn and I put his name in there by mistake, I almost put Gerald McClellan name in that first post too me= ...It was written in a hurry. I didnt edit it out to hide my mistake I just wanted to make it a factual post. Anyway as for the original arguement, I just dont think Joe's place in history is set yet, he needs 2 or 3 more big name fights then he will be where he should be. Roy Jones has won titles in 4 weight divisions, how many has Joe?

[stee]

Well as I remember it, they signed to fight, then he got hurt, then before they resigned the fight he up and retired, he knew Jow was a bad match up for him and ducked out, I put in Nigel Benn because I got confused, I was thinking about how Roy and Gerald McClellan were supposed to fight but he got Hurt bad fighting Benn and I put his name in there by mistake, I almost put Gerald McClellan name in that first post too me= ...It was written in a hurry. I didnt edit it out to hide my mistake I just wanted to make it a factual post. Anyway as for the original arguement, I just dont think Joe's place in history is set yet, he needs 2 or 3 more big name fights then he will be where he should be. Roy Jones has won titles in 4 weight divisions, how many has Joe?

Yeah your right. You remember his first world title, IBF middleweight. Well it was a vacant title that Collins was after then Jones droped from supermiddle to get it. Then Collins beat Chris Pyatt a few months later and was promised a deal to unify with Roy, then almost instantly he moved back to supermiddle for the IBF title. Then Colins followed him and Eubank said he would have a go at him. So as you know Collins took his title. Then he was told he would have to fight Eubank again and Benn, he had 2 more fights after eubank, then the 2 fights with Benn. Just before he was to fight Benn the second time Jones promoters told him he could have his unification fight. About 2 weeks after Collins Benn 2, Jones moved to lightheavy.
Collins was talking bout moving up again to chase him, but they told him he was in a clause to fight Joe. Baring in mind the first he had heard of it was after he had got back from the holiday he was on after stopping craig cummings which was meant to be a warm up match for the Unification as Jones promoters had promised he was coming back to supermiddle after mike mcallum, but as the fight didnt go as easy as Joe has planned i wouldnt call him stupid for not going back down. I would call him stupid for not calling it a day now though
yeah Collins did duck out of that fight, but if you ask me he had nothing to prove, he had made his point but chasing Jones over the 3 years before, and to be honest as new as Joe was back then it would have probably gone a simmilar way the fight did on saturday for Lacy.
Just thought I would put that on to be a little more factual and less argumentative.
Joe has a long way to go to prove the same point as Collins and Jones did, but i think the competition isnt really there to scare him in to not going for it. 3 fights tops I reckon. It will be good to see him move up a weight now, its all good
p.s dont worry about making the mistake about Benn, I was only trying to wind you up, as im sure you are aware of what the humour is like over here .

[spencer]

he really did put the gloves on him. i think he will go after a couple more fights. i take my hat off to him tho. da iawn, well done joe you flew our flag with pride this morning.

british flag?

[stee]

british flag?

duh the welsh one, but i so know what you are gonna say now though.
"Calzaghe wasnt born in wales" lol

[spencer]

duh the welsh one, but i so know what you are gonna say now though.
"Calzaghe wasnt born in wales" lol

[spencer]

How is he a shot fighter? he's young and hasnt fought that much, Joe put a whipping on him but Joe is a top 10 pound for pound fighter....Give Jeff some time, he'll be back...Now I really wanna see Joe Beat the snot out of Tarver...

i dnt think he'll be the same m8 imo. he took a good few head shots

headache or what

[Tedbear981]

Yeah your right. You remember his first world title, IBF middleweight. Well it was a vacant title that Collins was after then Jones droped from supermiddle to get it. Then Collins beat Chris Pyatt a few months later and was promised a deal to unify with Roy, then almost instantly he moved back to supermiddle for the IBF title. Then Colins followed him and Eubank said he would have a go at him. So as you know Collins took his title. Then he was told he would have to fight Eubank again and Benn, he had 2 more fights after eubank, then the 2 fights with Benn. Just before he was to fight Benn the second time Jones promoters told him he could have his unification fight. About 2 weeks after Collins Benn 2, Jones moved to lightheavy.
Collins was talking bout moving up again to chase him, but they told him he was in a clause to fight Joe. Baring in mind the first he had heard of it was after he had got back from the holiday he was on after stopping craig cummings which was meant to be a warm up match for the Unification as Jones promoters had promised he was coming back to supermiddle after mike mcallum, but as the fight didnt go as easy as Joe has planned i wouldnt call him stupid for not going back down. I would call him stupid for not calling it a day now though
yeah Collins did duck out of that fight, but if you ask me he had nothing to prove, he had made his point but chasing Jones over the 3 years before, and to be honest as new as Joe was back then it would have probably gone a simmilar way the fight did on saturday for Lacy.
Just thought I would put that on to be a little more factual and less argumentative.
Joe has a long way to go to prove the same point as Collins and Jones did, but i think the competition isnt really there to scare him in to not going for it. 3 fights tops I reckon. It will be good to see him move up a weight now, its all good
p.s dont worry about making the mistake about Benn, I was only trying to wind you up, as im sure you are aware of what the humour is like over here .

I agree with your above statment 100%, and trust me, my uncle calls me all the time, I am well aware of the humor LOL I myself would like to see Joe whip Tarver, and the other "champions at light heavy, then retire.

[Tedbear981]

i dnt think he'll be the same m8 imo. he took a good few head shots

headache or what

You could be right, he took an ass whipping, I just think he's young and will bounce back, time will tell sometimes after a beating like that you are never the same fighter again. Maybe he'll thinking twice about calling the press next time saying fighters are ducking him....

[stee]

i dnt think he'll be the same m8 imo. he took a good few head shots

headache or what

I dont know so much, i woulndt write him off just yet hes has a few years left in him yet i think, but taking beatings like that dont do anything for your confidence. or the brain cells.