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06-14-2006, 03:10 PM #1
Why Do Boxers get paid so much more than mma fighters?
Why Do Boxers get paid so much more than mma fighters? The UFC must be getting ratings by the millions now but do you think the fighters are getting under paid ?
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06-14-2006, 03:22 PM #2
has to do with the fighters themselves actually. It's unusual in UFC for fighters to demand more money. And when they do (tito / Royce) they get shun by the fans. If the fighters started asking for more ...it will start to increase. It will be up there as the sport progresses in the U.S.
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06-14-2006, 04:23 PM #3
Bigger market
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06-14-2006, 06:06 PM #4
Zimmy how long and what type of MMA do you do?
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06-14-2006, 06:44 PM #5
MMA unlike boxing is very hard to understand by the general public, they dont understand what goes on when the 2 fighters hit the ground, whats all that scuffling going on.
Boxing is very easy to understand, 2 guys trying to knockout each other.
Also you need to give MMA time to grow and build itself, over the years it has come cleaner, more exciting and the best is yet to come.
MMA is young very young for a sport, boxing has been around for centuries.
Give it another 10-20 years and its gonna be has big has boxing.
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06-14-2006, 06:51 PM #6
zuffa pimps the UFC guys pretty bad...boxing can sell to HBO showtime and ESPN.. companys with more $ then spike TV.
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06-14-2006, 07:03 PM #7Originally Posted by westcoastbadboy
Simply cuz boxing is watched more than MMA.. They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot. Better promotors. Boxing is just MMA on a bigger scale. UFC 61 made $32 million, $16 million went directly to k-1 for the tentative deal for royce gracie. Mike Tyson in his hayday was making $20 million a fight.
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06-14-2006, 07:09 PM #8
"They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot."
when was the last time boxers fought in front of 30,000????? fans also PRIDE fights in front of over 50,000 all the time in asia
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06-14-2006, 07:54 PM #9
more gambling, bigger wagers.
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06-14-2006, 07:59 PM #10Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
He said UFC and not Pride....secondly it wouldnt matter because Pride depends almost entirely upon ticket sales and marketing as revenue. Their pay per view buyout is not even a blip on the radar. More people order Jenna Jameson sexscapades than Pride when its on PPV. pride even thought about dropping it at one point. Thirdly its been done NUMEROUS times in Mike Tyson fights alone. When George Foreman fought Michael Moore I believe it was almost a crowd of 25,000 people. When has the UFC EVER put that many asses in seats? In Japan its a whole diff ball game, Pride is nationally televised on regular cable tv. What other country holds main event and championship fight cards on regular tv? Certainly not the UFC. UFC constantly gives tickets away at events just to fill the house show.
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06-14-2006, 08:35 PM #11
MMA is starting to get a lot more popular so it wouldnt suprise me if the could fill a place with 30,000 seats eventually.
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06-14-2006, 11:24 PM #12Originally Posted by sonar1234
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06-14-2006, 11:34 PM #13
i belive it comes down to sponsers and its gonna soon come up look at the last 2 ufc they were in cali thats never happened so i think it will start to raise wages, at least i hope so fighting for a living is hard business!!!!
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06-15-2006, 12:25 AM #14Retired Vet
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I don't think MMA will ever come close to boxing in terms of revenue. Its simply not as exciting, in fact to most people it's very boring. I find most fights a yawn!.
I'd rather watch two skilled boxers go toe-to-toe over the distance, or one gets TKO'd (which is pretty exciting) than two skilled (or semi-skilled in most cases) MMA fighters go to the ground and work for subs.
And I think thats true for most people, even for the majority of MMA fans.
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06-15-2006, 01:39 AM #15
I jus figured like any sport it has to gain credibility, its been around for a while but I think its jus starting to pick up popularity... I think we'll see a change in there salaries soon, plus they are all gettin paid millions from all those xyionex comercials haha more sponsership will bring more revenue...
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06-15-2006, 03:12 AM #16Originally Posted by industywetrusty
ufc dont advertise over here in the uk because the market isnt big enough...we get it on bravo around a week after the fight was shown live...by then people have downloaded it or had the spoilers...not sure how big it is in the states.
pride and bushido on the other hand total different class of fighting in my eyes..alot of wrestling based and grappling so it 75% of the time it hits the floor and the majority of people prefer the stand up.
i guess they want to see a 1 minute knockout then see the art of 2 people looking for a submission or g/p.
Again it sums up to a bigger market.
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06-15-2006, 05:00 AM #17
I think that in this day and age people are looking for more of the raw fighting that ufc brings, it has deffinatally jumped into the forefront with the fact that its on cable television so frequently... they are trying to gain popularity in this way, showing old matches to give the fighters more of a name so people who are jus starting to watch it are filled in, I mean honestly I think the reason boxing is more popular is because the of people like ali and tyson who have made the sport great, they add the credibility...also it maybe that it is more corrupt at this point, I think ufc needs to have a movie like rocky haha that would give it some popularity, but honestly boxing has been in history for years it has more pul right now, but times are changeing
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06-15-2006, 11:37 PM #18Originally Posted by sonar1234
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06-15-2006, 11:41 PM #19Originally Posted by BOUNCER
Then again, a lot of the people I associate with are somehow involved with MMA- either fans or competitors- so there's some bias there.
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06-18-2006, 11:54 AM #20
MMA got a very bad start, thoses who remember the first UFC where they where no rules, and even worst and i saw this on tv at UFC4 when Keith Hackney was hitting Joe Son in the groins on the ground that made the very bad rep that MMA has today among pertty much everyone that does know crap about MMA.
Each time i say to people that i am an MMA fan its always the same making the relation to UFC4 and the groin shots that they saw on tv many years ago and on the news where they did a great job to really try to dig MMA into a deep hole.
Thats the main point people are idiots and ignorant its the same has when someone doesnt like another person and will spread shit on that person other people will start hating without even analyzing if its true or not what has been said.
That for me is the big downfall of MMA, and thoses none violent people they make me laught to they got big mouths and will provoke you but they never wanna fight cause it solve nothing bunch of fags
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06-19-2006, 03:16 PM #21
When George Foreman fought Michael Moore I believe it was almost a crowd of 25,000 people. When has the UFC EVER put that many asses in seats?
never took place 14,000 ppl
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06-19-2006, 05:16 PM #22Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
I'm not even sure what your saying but ok regardless, when does MMA in America ever put more than 10,000 into a show without giving tickets away?? Not only that you said 14,000 people went to a FOREMAN-MOORER fight. Impressive.... for a southpaw that has really done nothing fighting a 44 year old man it still managed to put 14k in the arena. UFC with their big Hughes- Royces flair had it bomb miserably. You address one point but you fail to address anything else I said. Dont pick your battles. Even better, back in the day when boxing had no advertisment whatsoever simply cuz there was no t.v. or radio Jack Dempsey fought Gene tunney in front of 104,000 people in Soldier Field. Only event I have ever saw that was close to that was k-1 versus Pride. BTW when you speak of Pride's event crowd's they have been accused and proven of drastically inflating their numbers so dont put to much stock in them.Last edited by USfighterFC; 06-19-2006 at 05:50 PM.
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06-19-2006, 06:46 PM #23
def in more time they will get paid big bucks.....just as long as they dont go the WWF/WCW/WWE route and turn it all into some clown ish.....(i kno wrestling is fake) but its such a clown ass market
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06-19-2006, 11:21 PM #24
UFC needs more personalities like Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, guys who talk and put on a show. Listening to Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali talk before the fight was more entertaining than the fight sometimes. They just need more time to get more personalities fighting each other. I mean Royce Gracie and Matt Hughes are two of the most calm non-vocal people to build a fight around. Just my .02
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06-20-2006, 03:26 PM #25Junior Member
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I think UFC payouts also has to do with competition. Being invited to fight in the UFC is regarded as the biggest honor which is usually enough for most fighters. Also, in the states, there really isnt another organization that can compete with UFC (in terms of pay-outs) so UFC doesnt have to pay hundreds of thousand to each fighter b/c the fighters can't get that money anywhere else.
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07-09-2006, 09:09 AM #26Member
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Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
Insert an Oscar DeLa Hoya fight here. Boxing's just been around much longer and it appeals to more of the public. You gotta give props to the UFC guys though; They're kickin' butt for, by comparison to Oscar and the heavyweights, measly purses.
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07-09-2006, 09:48 AM #27
I gotta agree with bouncer, boxing is far more entertaining generally and easier to market, it already has a massive fan base as well.
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07-15-2006, 05:10 AM #28
I actually find boxing very boring, but we train for it in our MMA club (i just started)
and being able to go 10-12 rounds boxing is fvckin RIDICULOUS, i cant believe how good of shape these guys are in, they DESERVE to be paid more than an MMA guy
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07-15-2006, 09:30 AM #29Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
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07-15-2006, 10:02 AM #30
Publicity!
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07-19-2006, 02:10 AM #31
Because mma/boxing promotions are a business. Boxing is way more mainstream and bigger names sell tickets & pay-per-view. If you stop a person on the street they're a lot more likely to know who Mike Tyson is than Wanderlei Silva.
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07-19-2006, 02:11 AM #32
Alex Rodriguez (Yankees) makes $250 million. Life ain't fair.
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07-19-2006, 02:59 AM #33
IV been in three UFC fights all at casino's. THe first time there was 83 people total. 2nd time we had 211. 3rd time it was full and they had to turn people away. dont no how many they had in there but max capacity was 425 and i was told they were way over. my personal point of view would be that UFC is going to be very populer.
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07-19-2006, 02:59 AM #34
hahaha cuz man,,, hahah easy answer...
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07-19-2006, 11:21 AM #35Originally Posted by crazyhorse666
You've been in the UFC....pray tell which UFC fight have you been in were they 83 people?
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07-21-2006, 03:44 AM #36Originally Posted by MMA
It just seems that 12 rounds is pretty harsh, just being able to keep their hands up after the 4-5th is amazing to me
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