Results 1 to 36 of 36
  1. #1
    westcoastbadboy's Avatar
    westcoastbadboy is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    222

    Why Do Boxers get paid so much more than mma fighters?

    Why Do Boxers get paid so much more than mma fighters? The UFC must be getting ratings by the millions now but do you think the fighters are getting under paid ?

  2. #2
    zimmy's Avatar
    zimmy is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    4,225
    has to do with the fighters themselves actually. It's unusual in UFC for fighters to demand more money. And when they do (tito / Royce) they get shun by the fans. If the fighters started asking for more ...it will start to increase. It will be up there as the sport progresses in the U.S.

  3. #3
    Box This*'s Avatar
    Box This* is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    494
    Bigger market

  4. #4
    westcoastbadboy's Avatar
    westcoastbadboy is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    222
    Zimmy how long and what type of MMA do you do?

  5. #5
    sonar1234's Avatar
    sonar1234 is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Pride Fighting nuthugger
    Posts
    2,378
    MMA unlike boxing is very hard to understand by the general public, they dont understand what goes on when the 2 fighters hit the ground, whats all that scuffling going on.

    Boxing is very easy to understand, 2 guys trying to knockout each other.

    Also you need to give MMA time to grow and build itself, over the years it has come cleaner, more exciting and the best is yet to come.

    MMA is young very young for a sport, boxing has been around for centuries.

    Give it another 10-20 years and its gonna be has big has boxing.

  6. #6
    BEER WHORE's Avatar
    BEER WHORE is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    539
    zuffa pimps the UFC guys pretty bad...boxing can sell to HBO showtime and ESPN.. companys with more $ then spike TV.

  7. #7
    USfighterFC's Avatar
    USfighterFC is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    6,175
    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastbadboy
    Why Do Boxers get paid so much more than mma fighters? The UFC must be getting ratings by the millions now but do you think the fighters are getting under paid ?

    Simply cuz boxing is watched more than MMA.. They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot. Better promotors. Boxing is just MMA on a bigger scale. UFC 61 made $32 million, $16 million went directly to k-1 for the tentative deal for royce gracie. Mike Tyson in his hayday was making $20 million a fight.

  8. #8
    BEER WHORE's Avatar
    BEER WHORE is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    539
    "They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot."


    when was the last time boxers fought in front of 30,000????? fans also PRIDE fights in front of over 50,000 all the time in asia

  9. #9
    kihop's Avatar
    kihop is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    467
    more gambling, bigger wagers.

  10. #10
    USfighterFC's Avatar
    USfighterFC is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    6,175
    Quote Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
    "They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot."


    when was the last time boxers fought in front of 30,000????? fans also PRIDE fights in front of over 50,000 all the time in asia

    He said UFC and not Pride....secondly it wouldnt matter because Pride depends almost entirely upon ticket sales and marketing as revenue. Their pay per view buyout is not even a blip on the radar. More people order Jenna Jameson sexscapades than Pride when its on PPV. pride even thought about dropping it at one point. Thirdly its been done NUMEROUS times in Mike Tyson fights alone. When George Foreman fought Michael Moore I believe it was almost a crowd of 25,000 people. When has the UFC EVER put that many asses in seats? In Japan its a whole diff ball game, Pride is nationally televised on regular cable tv. What other country holds main event and championship fight cards on regular tv? Certainly not the UFC. UFC constantly gives tickets away at events just to fill the house show.

  11. #11
    rar1015's Avatar
    rar1015 is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    2,684
    MMA is starting to get a lot more popular so it wouldnt suprise me if the could fill a place with 30,000 seats eventually.

  12. #12
    J.S.N.'s Avatar
    J.S.N. is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    all up in yo' buttho'
    Posts
    2,720
    Quote Originally Posted by sonar1234
    MMA unlike boxing is very hard to understand by the general public, they dont understand what goes on when the 2 fighters hit the ground, whats all that scuffling going on.

    Boxing is very easy to understand, 2 guys trying to knockout each other.

    .
    i would have to disagree with your there. boxing is not easy to understand at all. it's easy to understand the concept of 2 guys trying to punch each other just liek it's easy to understand the concept of 2 guys trying to sub each other, but it takes alot of insight to be able to understand and in most cases enjoy boxing much like sub grappling or mma.

  13. #13
    monstermasss's Avatar
    monstermasss is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    359
    i belive it comes down to sponsers and its gonna soon come up look at the last 2 ufc they were in cali thats never happened so i think it will start to raise wages, at least i hope so fighting for a living is hard business!!!!

  14. #14
    BOUNCER is offline Retired Vet
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    IRELAND.
    Posts
    4,185
    I don't think MMA will ever come close to boxing in terms of revenue. Its simply not as exciting, in fact to most people it's very boring. I find most fights a yawn!.

    I'd rather watch two skilled boxers go toe-to-toe over the distance, or one gets TKO'd (which is pretty exciting) than two skilled (or semi-skilled in most cases) MMA fighters go to the ground and work for subs.

    And I think thats true for most people, even for the majority of MMA fans.

  15. #15
    industywetrusty's Avatar
    industywetrusty is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    The dirty south
    Posts
    191
    I jus figured like any sport it has to gain credibility, its been around for a while but I think its jus starting to pick up popularity... I think we'll see a change in there salaries soon, plus they are all gettin paid millions from all those xyionex comercials haha more sponsership will bring more revenue...
    Last edited by industywetrusty; 06-15-2006 at 01:42 AM.

  16. #16
    Box This*'s Avatar
    Box This* is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    494
    Quote Originally Posted by industywetrusty
    I jus figured like any sport it has to gain credibility, its been around for a while but I think its jus starting to pick up popularity... I think we'll see a change in there salaries soon, plus they are all gettin paid millions from all those xyionex comercials haha more sponsership will bring more revenue...
    I think ufc will not get the dredit...there on set fight paid agreements...where as somone alse metioned boxers haggle for wages wich i think its bad thing in a way because its not like what it used to be all them years ago...people wanting the titles more then the pay days.

    ufc dont advertise over here in the uk because the market isnt big enough...we get it on bravo around a week after the fight was shown live...by then people have downloaded it or had the spoilers...not sure how big it is in the states.

    pride and bushido on the other hand total different class of fighting in my eyes..alot of wrestling based and grappling so it 75% of the time it hits the floor and the majority of people prefer the stand up.

    i guess they want to see a 1 minute knockout then see the art of 2 people looking for a submission or g/p.

    Again it sums up to a bigger market.

  17. #17
    industywetrusty's Avatar
    industywetrusty is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    The dirty south
    Posts
    191
    I think that in this day and age people are looking for more of the raw fighting that ufc brings, it has deffinatally jumped into the forefront with the fact that its on cable television so frequently... they are trying to gain popularity in this way, showing old matches to give the fighters more of a name so people who are jus starting to watch it are filled in, I mean honestly I think the reason boxing is more popular is because the of people like ali and tyson who have made the sport great, they add the credibility...also it maybe that it is more corrupt at this point, I think ufc needs to have a movie like rocky haha that would give it some popularity, but honestly boxing has been in history for years it has more pul right now, but times are changeing

  18. #18
    j3374's Avatar
    j3374 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    276
    Quote Originally Posted by sonar1234
    MMA unlike boxing is very hard to understand by the general public, they dont understand what goes on when the 2 fighters hit the ground, whats all that scuffling going on.

    Boxing is very easy to understand, 2 guys trying to knockout each other.

    Also you need to give MMA time to grow and build itself, over the years it has come cleaner, more exciting and the best is yet to come.

    MMA is young very young for a sport, boxing has been around for centuries.

    Give it another 10-20 years and its gonna be has big has boxing.
    Exactly. MMA is still establishing it'self as a sport. Fighters are still learning how to manage themselves.

  19. #19
    j3374's Avatar
    j3374 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    276
    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    I don't think MMA will ever come close to boxing in terms of revenue. Its simply not as exciting, in fact to most people it's very boring. I find most fights a yawn!.
    Actually, I hear more people saying the opposite. Boxing is boring and one dimensional and MMA is more dynamic.

    Then again, a lot of the people I associate with are somehow involved with MMA- either fans or competitors- so there's some bias there.

  20. #20
    sonar1234's Avatar
    sonar1234 is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Pride Fighting nuthugger
    Posts
    2,378
    MMA got a very bad start, thoses who remember the first UFC where they where no rules, and even worst and i saw this on tv at UFC4 when Keith Hackney was hitting Joe Son in the groins on the ground that made the very bad rep that MMA has today among pertty much everyone that does know crap about MMA.

    Each time i say to people that i am an MMA fan its always the same making the relation to UFC4 and the groin shots that they saw on tv many years ago and on the news where they did a great job to really try to dig MMA into a deep hole.

    Thats the main point people are idiots and ignorant its the same has when someone doesnt like another person and will spread shit on that person other people will start hating without even analyzing if its true or not what has been said.

    That for me is the big downfall of MMA, and thoses none violent people they make me laught to they got big mouths and will provoke you but they never wanna fight cause it solve nothing bunch of fags

  21. #21
    BEER WHORE's Avatar
    BEER WHORE is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    539
    When George Foreman fought Michael Moore I believe it was almost a crowd of 25,000 people. When has the UFC EVER put that many asses in seats?

    never took place 14,000 ppl

  22. #22
    USfighterFC's Avatar
    USfighterFC is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    6,175
    Quote Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
    When George Foreman fought Michael Moore I believe it was almost a crowd of 25,000 people. When has the UFC EVER put that many asses in seats?

    never took place 14,000 ppl

    I'm not even sure what your saying but ok regardless, when does MMA in America ever put more than 10,000 into a show without giving tickets away?? Not only that you said 14,000 people went to a FOREMAN-MOORER fight. Impressive.... for a southpaw that has really done nothing fighting a 44 year old man it still managed to put 14k in the arena. UFC with their big Hughes- Royces flair had it bomb miserably. You address one point but you fail to address anything else I said. Dont pick your battles. Even better, back in the day when boxing had no advertisment whatsoever simply cuz there was no t.v. or radio Jack Dempsey fought Gene tunney in front of 104,000 people in Soldier Field. Only event I have ever saw that was close to that was k-1 versus Pride. BTW when you speak of Pride's event crowd's they have been accused and proven of drastically inflating their numbers so dont put to much stock in them.
    Last edited by USfighterFC; 06-19-2006 at 05:50 PM.

  23. #23
    test=magic's Avatar
    test=magic is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    the empire state
    Posts
    220
    def in more time they will get paid big bucks.....just as long as they dont go the WWF/WCW/WWE route and turn it all into some clown ish.....(i kno wrestling is fake) but its such a clown ass market

  24. #24
    sooners04's Avatar
    sooners04 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    1,522
    UFC needs more personalities like Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, guys who talk and put on a show. Listening to Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali talk before the fight was more entertaining than the fight sometimes. They just need more time to get more personalities fighting each other. I mean Royce Gracie and Matt Hughes are two of the most calm non-vocal people to build a fight around. Just my .02

  25. #25
    superpump is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    57
    I think UFC payouts also has to do with competition. Being invited to fight in the UFC is regarded as the biggest honor which is usually enough for most fighters. Also, in the states, there really isnt another organization that can compete with UFC (in terms of pay-outs) so UFC doesnt have to pay hundreds of thousand to each fighter b/c the fighters can't get that money anywhere else.

  26. #26
    Slick Arrado is offline Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    792
    Quote Originally Posted by BEER WHORE
    "They can fill a 30,000 seat stadium whereas the UFC cannot."


    when was the last time boxers fought in front of 30,000????? fans

    Insert an Oscar DeLa Hoya fight here. Boxing's just been around much longer and it appeals to more of the public. You gotta give props to the UFC guys though; They're kickin' butt for, by comparison to Oscar and the heavyweights, measly purses.


  27. #27
    MASTER's Avatar
    MASTER is offline "I Own You"
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    England
    Posts
    4,421
    I gotta agree with bouncer, boxing is far more entertaining generally and easier to market, it already has a massive fan base as well.

  28. #28
    GQ-Bouncer's Avatar
    GQ-Bouncer is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    look beyond what you see
    Posts
    1,258
    I actually find boxing very boring, but we train for it in our MMA club (i just started)

    and being able to go 10-12 rounds boxing is fvckin RIDICULOUS, i cant believe how good of shape these guys are in, they DESERVE to be paid more than an MMA guy

  29. #29
    MMA's Avatar
    MMA
    MMA is offline VET
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,879
    Quote Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
    I actually find boxing very boring, but we train for it in our MMA club (i just started)

    and being able to go 10-12 rounds boxing is fvckin RIDICULOUS, i cant believe how good of shape these guys are in, they DESERVE to be paid more than an MMA guy
    LOL when i first started doing 3 - 2 minute rounds in the amateurs, i thought the guys doing 12 round fights at that pace were doing some kind of magic trick. try boxing just 3 rounds sometime.

  30. #30
    Ufa's Avatar
    Ufa
    Ufa is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Hotel California
    Posts
    2,861
    Publicity!

  31. #31
    Coop77's Avatar
    Coop77 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Venice CA
    Posts
    1,375
    Because mma/boxing promotions are a business. Boxing is way more mainstream and bigger names sell tickets & pay-per-view. If you stop a person on the street they're a lot more likely to know who Mike Tyson is than Wanderlei Silva.

  32. #32
    Coop77's Avatar
    Coop77 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Venice CA
    Posts
    1,375
    Alex Rodriguez (Yankees) makes $250 million. Life ain't fair.

  33. #33
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    IN your walls
    Posts
    574
    IV been in three UFC fights all at casino's. THe first time there was 83 people total. 2nd time we had 211. 3rd time it was full and they had to turn people away. dont no how many they had in there but max capacity was 425 and i was told they were way over. my personal point of view would be that UFC is going to be very populer.

  34. #34
    boxingbean's Avatar
    boxingbean is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Phx, Arizona
    Posts
    1,079
    hahaha cuz man,,, hahah easy answer...

  35. #35
    USfighterFC's Avatar
    USfighterFC is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    6,175
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhorse666
    IV been in three UFC fights all at casino's. THe first time there was 83 people total. 2nd time we had 211. 3rd time it was full and they had to turn people away. dont no how many they had in there but max capacity was 425 and i was told they were way over. my personal point of view would be that UFC is going to be very populer.

    You've been in the UFC....pray tell which UFC fight have you been in were they 83 people?

  36. #36
    GQ-Bouncer's Avatar
    GQ-Bouncer is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    look beyond what you see
    Posts
    1,258
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA
    LOL when i first started doing 3 - 2 minute rounds in the amateurs, i thought the guys doing 12 round fights at that pace were doing some kind of magic trick. try boxing just 3 rounds sometime.
    yah for are sparring sessions it's 3, 3 minute rounds (kickboxing)

    It just seems that 12 rounds is pretty harsh, just being able to keep their hands up after the 4-5th is amazing to me

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •