Kendall Grove vs. Ed Herman ... WOW !

[QuieTSToRM33]

just finished watching the middleweight final between Grove/Herman ....... that was a great fvckin fight ..... both of those guys showed a tremendous amount of heart ........ both left it out on the mat ........ lots of submission attempts .... lots of escapes

overall great fight .... kendall got the unanimous decision ..... but i wouldve loved to see another round

and in the end .... dana white offered ed herman a contract as well

[almostgone]

...Helluva fight....and DW offering Ed Herman a contract is good business sense on his part...Now he has 2 good MW fighters....

AG

[almostgone]

....and Ortiz and Shamrock are hilarious....Ortiz really knows how to punch Shamrock's buttons...and vice-versa...

AG

[miguy82]

i was so glad that ed lost. his cocky ass on the show was annoying!thinking he could whoop everyone but that didnt go to well. i hate cocky pricks like that

[kihop]

That was an awesome fight, i thought it should've gone another round.

[copenhagen]

that was an awsome fight. total action the whole time, they will be awsome for mma.

[HORSE~]

Damn good fight

Would have liked too see it go another round too

Both fighter's showed lot's of heart glad to see they both got contract's

But I think the fight was called well Kindal won the fight hand's down IMO!!

Mucho Prop's to both fighter's!!!!

[USfighterFC]

What i dont understand is why herman was given a contract even tho he lost. The loser goes home in my book and Ed Herman isnt that skilled of a fighter.

[skinnyhb]

i wonder how things would have panned out differently if ed was tito's fighter.

[sooners04]

Ed beat Kendalls ass all night. The only reason Kendall won was because he caught Ed in a rear naked choke the last minute of the third round. Thats what won it. Ed definately deserves a contract considering that fight could have gone either way. If Ed taps or gets knocked out he wouldn't get a contract but the way it was the judges picked a winner by flipping a coin IMO.

[skinnyhb]

Ed beat Kendalls ass all night. The only reason Kendall won was because he caught Ed in a rear naked choke the last minute of the third round. Thats what won it. Ed definately deserves a contract considering that fight could have gone either way. If Ed taps or gets knocked out he wouldn't get a contract but the way it was the judges picked a winner by flipping a coin IMO.

i dont think a unanimous decision of 29-28 sounds all that much like a coin flip.

[sooners04]

Just my opinion like I stated.

[F4iGuy]

Amazing fight. These guys are warriors. I can't believe how much stamina these guys had after kicking each others ass the entire time. That fight could've gone either way.

[rar1015]

I agree with ya USfighterFC. He made himself out to be so good and he's not. He should be going home without the contract.

[USfighterFC]

Ed beat Kendalls ass all night. The only reason Kendall won was because he caught Ed in a rear naked choke the last minute of the third round. Thats what won it. Ed definately deserves a contract considering that fight could have gone either way. If Ed taps or gets knocked out he wouldn't get a contract but the way it was the judges picked a winner by flipping a coin IMO.

Def not. Dana White just can't pull a $100,000 contract out of his ass like that. They've done this in all the TUF's. They always award more contracts then they say.

[rar1015]

They do it everytime. They also still have a lot of the guys who lost in the beginning of the show come back and fight for the UFC which i think is billsh!t. I think if ya had you chance and you lost it well to bad.....better luck next time. Thats just my opinion.

[USfighterFC]

They do it everytime. They also still have a lot of the guys who lost in the beginning of the show come back and fight for the UFC which i think is billsh!t. I think if ya had you chance and you lost it well to bad.....better luck next time. Thats just my opinion.

agreed.

[Quil]

I thought it was a great fight as well. Both fighters have good potential, which is why Dana signed them both. And for the record, the only other time Dana gave out 2 contracts on the finale was to Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar. Think that worked out OK for him.

[zodiac666]

great fight, i guess that choke at the end was enough to award it to kendall, but i still wish like hell that it had gone to another round.

[superpump]

Definately a great fight. Ed did better than i thought he would IMO b/c i wasn't expecting much from him. He definately likes to lay and pray but 1st round was his. He definately needs to improve his cardio if he is going to start fighting in the UFC.

I thought that Kendall had it won with that 2nd triangle in the 2nd round.. I give ed credit for escaping. Ed will get slaughtered by the top of the MW division but he'll get to fight some cans first to build a reputation

[Ammar]

I thought Herman won the fight...I had him winning round 1 and 3 but Kendall winning the 2nd. Sometimes I dont understand what some judges are looking for, because be UFC judging outlines it seemed like Herman won to me.

Either way, I thought it was a good show...real good fights.

[biglouie250]

well ed herman was a free agent after he lost that match. so in essence dana probably saved himself a bunch of cash in the long run. suppose he doesnt get signed by the ufc, someone else signs him and when that contracts up his value is even higher. but dana knowing he has a talent here entices him and he gets a 6 figure deal which is nothing all that special. and he is the ufc's poster boy for a year doing promo stuff and xyience commercials for free. smart business move.

[USfighterFC]

well ed herman was a free agent after he lost that match. so in essence dana probably saved himself a bunch of cash in the long run. suppose he doesnt get signed by the ufc, someone else signs him and when that contracts up his value is even higher. but dana knowing he has a talent here entices him and he gets a 6 figure deal which is nothing all that special. and he is the ufc's poster boy for a year doing promo stuff and xyience commercials for free. smart business move.

I dont think he will do one single xyience commercial and with his shitty attitude he will hardly be a poster boy. He's fighting at 185 and he will never beat rich franklin even on his best day. Ed Herman would probably have been picked up by WFA or IFL for much cheaper since he didnt get his 6 figure contract and beggers really can't be choosers at that point. Wht he would have done there remains to be seen.

[rar1015]

Yep i agree.

[westcoastbadboy]

I agree with usfighter, there are two types of cocky attitudes, entertaining ones such as Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, and maybe Phil Baroni somtimes. Ed Herman has the annoying cocky attitude, which roughens the reputation of the UFC to new viewers. Looking at Kendall Groves interviews it shows that he is a stand up guy who has a grade A attitude and could represent for the UFC just like Randy C, Rich F, and GSP. Props on beating the trailer park trash Kendell Grove!

[Quil]

I wasn't a fan of Ed Herman's attitude on the show at all...I thought he was cocky and would probably get his ass kicked at some point by being too overconfident. I must give him some credit though...he didn't make any excuses or negative statements when Rogan interviewed him after the fight, just gave credit to Kendall. That was the first time I saw him show any class, and hopefully he's learned his lesson about running his mouth so much.

[kihop]

I wasn't a fan of Ed Herman's attitude on the show at all...I thought he was cocky and would probably get his ass kicked at some point by being too overconfident. I must give him some credit though...he didn't make any excuses or negative statements when Rogan interviewed him after the fight, just gave credit to Kendall. That was the first time I saw him show any class, and hopefully he's learned his lesson about running his mouth so much.

Yeah, true..he didnt talk shit after the fight and accepted the loss.. props for that.

[sooners04]

Def not. Dana White just can't pull a $100,000 contract out of his ass like that. They've done this in all the TUF's. They always award more contracts then they say.

Danas the owner he can do what he wants with HIS money. Watch the fight again and notice that Kendall tapped out but the ref didn't stop it. Even Joe Rogan thought he tapped out. Ed should have won and didn't so Dana made it fair and gave him a deserved contract.

[zimmy]

I don't think he tapped...I dunno if you have any experience in sport jiu jitsu or MMA...but trust me... you don't tap subtle. You tap fast when you feel that point come or you pass out. No in between. I thought it was a great fight. Both fighters impressed me. Ed definately showed he had tons of heart that made up for his complete lack of conditioning. If he had better conditioning...he wouldn't of layed there 3rd round.

[sooners04]

Watch the fight again, Joe Rogan even said he thought Kendall tapped.

[scriptfactory]

Danas the owner he can do what he wants with HIS money. Watch the fight again and notice that Kendall tapped out but the ref didn't stop it. Even Joe Rogan thought he tapped out. Ed should have won and didn't so Dana made it fair and gave him a deserved contract.

Even Joe Rogan! Then it must be true...

The ref knows how to spot tapouts and looks closely for them. Like Zimmy said, taps are NOT subtle. The fact of the matter is, Kendall didn't tap and won the (great) fight.

[scriptfactory]

Watch the fight again, Joe Rogan even said he thought Kendall tapped.

Joe Rogan also said that he didn't see a Keith Jardine kick his opponent in the nuts, even though it was pretty obvious.

[godkilla]

joe rogan is a tool, lol.

[rar1015]

Yes he is.......but i thought i saw him tap too but maybe not. I recorded it so i'll look at it tonight and find out for sure.

[Quil]

Even Joe Rogan! Then it must be true...

LOL...."He's got it! He's got it locked in! Oh wait, he's out of it..."

[zimmy]

that reminds me...wtf is up with "OH HE'S GOING FOR A TRIANGLE" every time some one puts his legs up. Dudes a purple right? Shouldn't he be able to see something other than that!

[Quil]

If I hear him say Oma Plata one more freakin time....

[scriptfactory]

If I hear him say Oma Plata one more freakin time....

And it's an "uma plata".

[USfighterFC]

"He's rocked!!! That man's got dynamite in his hands"

Sometimes even Bas would annoy me with his " I'm telling you" "Just you watch"

So Bas what is sakuraba saying can you translate

Bas: "Sure, sakuraba said that he respects all fighters and el guapo is the most handsome looking man on the planet"

[rar1015]