Training, AS, etc.

[JohnnyUtah]

New to the board, just wanted to say hey.

I'm a personal trainer with about 6-7 years of AS experience. It's been on and off. I typically do 2-3 cycles a year, and spend the rest of the time trying to maintain.

At the end of my last cycle I was around 220 with about 6% bodyfat, and felt great.

I'm around 200 lbs at 7% bodyfat.

I've fought in one MMA event and plan to fight in another at the end of this year. I've been working my relatively weak ground game extensively since my last event.

Has anyone here trained in Arizona? I'm thinking of moving there in 2007 with some buddies, and we all want to find a local school to fight for. Any suggestions?

Also, I did a search for MMA cycles, and found few posts on this matter. Especially for the apparent amount of fighters that are on this board. There's even a guy who posted recently with almost no replies. I was clean at my last event for about a year, but I have been cycling AS on and off since 1999 always for size. Just from knowledge obtained over the years and through experience I would assume Anavar is at the top of the list. I'm worried about joint problems with Winny, I don't want to be injured while sparring and screw myself out of an event. Deca of course helps with the joints, but I'm probably leaning away from it just because I won't want that kind of weight on me.

I'm interested to see what most guys take about 2-3 months out, all the way up until the night of the fight.

I want to fight light heavyweight if at all possible. The bump to heavyweight would be a big change in my game. This is a real pain in the ass because I want to walk around at about 225, and I'm not into making weight the night before a fight. I'd rather stay a consistent weight year round.

Thanks for the help, and I look forward to posting on the board.

-JU

[superpump]

Whats up Johnny,
I think Relson Gracie has a school in Phoenix. Don't know much more about it, but it is definately something to look into if you need some help on the ground

[USfighterFC]

When it comes to steroids and my comps....it doesnt help me. Training hard and being technical helps me. I've seen guys coming in bencing 405 pounds and squatting well over 600 being tapped out in less than a minute. You can get as big and as strong as you want but if you have no technique and rely on sheer brutality then I wish you the best of luck. When you start hitting a level of fighters who are more than that you will hit a brick wall. They will beat you 10 times out of 10. Keep working on your ground game....shooting a needle in your ass will hardly help you avoid submissions in most cases. People like Nog, Fedor, Werdum dont even pick up weights when they train. They get all the core strength from coaches and working the mats. If your fighting at 205 with 7% BF then you are big enough. You gas quicker with the more muscle you retain....it takes a lot of oxygen and blood flow to keep those muscles going strong. Check out the thread where I posted nogueira BJJ instructional.....steroids wont help you accomplish that, plenty of practice and ring intelligence helps.

[j3374]

Megaton Diaz is in the Phoenix area. He's not the best for MMA fighting, but has a very technical bjj game that could be modified into an MMA style. He's all I know of there.

[Bench Machine]

I started Martial Arts back in 1992, but just started play with the drug part of in the last 3 years. Buy far the best one for me has been Halotestin for the strength and my endurance has got better too. I will be on Halotestin for a up coming match in Nov. that is how much it has helped me.

[zimmy]

When it comes to steroids and my comps....it doesnt help me. Training hard and being technical helps me. I've seen guys coming in bencing 405 pounds and squatting well over 600 being tapped out in less than a minute. You can get as big and as strong as you want but if you have no technique and rely on sheer brutality then I wish you the best of luck. When you start hitting a level of fighters who are more than that you will hit a brick wall. They will beat you 10 times out of 10. Keep working on your ground game....shooting a needle in your ass will hardly help you avoid submissions in most cases. People like Nog, Fedor, Werdum dont even pick up weights when they train. They get all the core strength from coaches and working the mats. If your fighting at 205 with 7% BF then you are big enough. You gas quicker with the more muscle you retain....it takes a lot of oxygen and blood flow to keep those muscles going strong. Check out the thread where I posted nogueira BJJ instructional.....steroids wont help you accomplish that, plenty of practice and ring intelligence helps.

always like it when you answer exactly what i was gonna say before me

LIke he said..technique...Even if you were gonna rely on stand up game and looking for "power". That is more about good technique and landing clean shots then having brute power.

[simm]

One thing said tho...Fedor said that when he was in the military,all he done was extensive weight training and running...You need core strength in this sport and that can be done with deads,benchs,curls and presses..Squats mean shit,so do needles in this sport,unless your just in it for the money!!!
Rolling on the mat,running,bag/pad work etc with the above mentioned exercises will make you more explosive yet not turn you into some kind of gassing freak..lol

[USfighterFC]

One thing said tho...Fedor said that when he was in the military,all he done was extensive weight training and running...You need core strength in this sport and that can be done with deads,benchs,curls and presses..Squats mean shit,so do needles in this sport,unless your just in it for the money!!!
Rolling on the mat,running,bag/pad work etc with the above mentioned exercises will make you more explosive yet not turn you into some kind of gassing freak..lol

Fedor was in the army for 2 years and he was discharged in 1997. He competed in the military games and one of their regimines was weight training. he did use it for a while but he said it severely hampered his flexibility and found it useless after a certain point.

[zimmy]

One thing said tho...Fedor said that when he was in the military,all he done was extensive weight training and running...You need core strength in this sport and that can be done with deads,benchs,curls and presses..Squats mean shit,so do needles in this sport,unless your just in it for the money!!!
Rolling on the mat,running,bag/pad work etc with the above mentioned exercises will make you more explosive yet not turn you into some kind of gassing freak..lol

hindi (or hindu can't ever remember) squats work great for core strength.

[simm]

Fedor was in the army for 2 years and he was discharged in 1997. He competed in the military games and one of their regimines was weight training. he did use it for a while but he said it severely hampered his flexibility and found it useless after a certain point.

Thanks for the rest of the story..I never did hear the last part! Thanks USfighter!!

[simm]

hindi (or hindu can't ever remember) squats work great for core strength.

Yea i used these for awhile with good results/endurance wise! I now do sets of 25-50 x 10 incorperated wiv upper body weights and LOADS of all in grappling/sparring! You can't beat the real thing!!

[JohnnyUtah]

Thanks for the replies.

I served some time in the military as well. I actually had a lot of great training through the Martial Arts program at my unit, and it sparked my interest in MMA. However, the structure and deployments kept me from training in the manner I needed to in order to be succesful.

Now I plan to complete dedicate myself. I am planning to find a school in Arizona to train 5 days a week, along with my morning weight lifting and evening cardio. If I'm getting the cardio I need at the school, then I'll cut my own out.

The area of my game that needs the most work is my ground fighting. I've come full circle on my BJJ, and loving it. I'm beating guys that were easily handling me a few months ago. I know I have a lot of work, and that there is no substitute for technical proficiency and experience, but I am looking for any edge I can find for fight night. I know the whole sport is involved in AS, and more than even having my own edge over the competition, I don't want to be weaker than I can be.

Halo sounds like a great addition. The research I've done as well as the posts on the board is suggesting running it for about 20-30 days prior to my event. What dose do you suggest?

I can't find any information on the Gracie school in Az, but I have a buddy checking on it for me. I have a couple of friends training at the SD fight club out in Cali, so that may be an option as well instead of moving to Arizona.

Thanks again for the help,

JU

[zimmy]

The area of my game that needs the most work is my ground fighting. I've come full circle on my BJJ, and loving it. I'm beating guys that were easily handling me a few months ago. I know I have a lot of work, and that there is no substitute for technical proficiency and experience, but I am looking for any edge I can find for fight night. I know the whole sport is involved in AS, and more than even having my own edge over the competition, I don't want to be weaker than I can be.

if you really want to improve your ground game...don't concentrate so much on beating the people you train with. Instead just allow yourself to get into some bad positions so you can see how to flow out of them. After all 99% of us know what to do when you are in good positions...it's what to do in bad positions that throw us off.

p.s. I don't mean ALL the time... just throw it into your sparring to get ya better.

[Bench Machine]

If you run the Halotestin you will like it. I would run 20 to 30 mg grams for 4 weeks before a fight. When im on halo my training partners refuse to hold the kicking and punching pads for me any more. I have to pound on the 100pound heavy bag.

[simm]

If you run the Halotestin you will like it. I would run 20 to 30 mg grams for 4 weeks before a fight. When im on halo my training partners refuse to hold the kicking and punching pads for me any more. I have to pound on the 100pound heavy bag.

That all your hittin 100lbs...Mine's 500lbs... I wish!!