UFC Diego Sanchez Vs. Josh Koscheck

**test_cyp** · 02-19-2007, 10:27 PM

Who else is looking forward to this fight? This is the main event IMO. Sanchez is intense and Koscheck will be looking to avenge his lose to Sanchez from the show. Koscheck has really improved, but I give the edge to Sanchez. I think he has more heart than anyone in the UFC.

**westcoastbadboy** · 02-19-2007, 10:45 PM

Sanchez for sure

**Hunter** · 02-19-2007, 11:02 PM

I think Kos, upsets deigo.

Striking-Slight edge to Kos or even depending on how you look at it.
Conditioning-Even
BJJ-deigo
Wrestling-HUGE ADvANTAGE TO KOS

I personally think Kos wins simply on the strenth of his takedowns.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 02-19-2007, 11:11 PM

I'm gonna go with Diego on this one.

**KAEW44** · 02-19-2007, 11:21 PM

It definetly looks like something that will go to a decision, and in decisions Diego has proven to get unusually lucky sometimes when the fight is considered close.

**MuscleScience** · 02-19-2007, 11:23 PM

Thats a really good matchup Im looking forward to that match

**Hunter** · 02-19-2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by KAEW44

It definetly looks like something that will go to a decision, and in decisions Diego has proven to get unusually lucky sometimes when the fight is considered close.

You got that right.

**test_cyp** · 02-19-2007, 11:40 PM

I always thought Diego lacked a little power until he knocked out Joe Riggs!

**scriptfactory** · 02-20-2007, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

I think Kos, upsets deigo.

Striking-Slight edge to Kos or even depending on how you look at it.
Conditioning-Even
BJJ-deigo
Wrestling-HUGE ADvANTAGE TO KOS

I personally think Kos wins simply on the strenth of his takedowns.

Agreed.

**CJC1981** · 02-20-2007, 07:44 AM

This could be a good fight, but there is a high probability of a decision. IMO.

**soo2bhuge** · 02-20-2007, 12:20 PM

I don't really like either one of these but I think Diego will take this one. KOS's takedowns may work on guys with poor wrestling and takedown defenses but it won't work against Diego for the same reason Tito's takedowns didn't work against Forrest (in the 2nd and 3rd rounds) and against Chuck Liddell. If you watch Tito and KOS shoot in, they do it from way outside. They're afraid to walk in, take some punishment, in order to take their opponent down, the way Karo Parysian does it. However, KOS takedowns seem to be a bit more explosive than Tito's, Diego has gotten a lot more quicker and he has great sprawls as seen against Nick Diaz and others. If Diego doesn't catch KOS in a submission (most likely a rear naked choke), then he should be able to win the decision because he'll outwork KOS on the ground even if he is taken down.

Just my opinion on this fight.

**Hunter** · 02-20-2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by soo2bhuge

I don't really like either one of these but I think Diego will take this one. KOS's takedowns may work on guys with poor wrestling and takedown defenses but it won't work against Diego for the same reason Tito's takedowns didn't work against Forrest (in the 2nd and 3rd rounds) and against Chuck Liddell. If you watch Tito and KOS shoot in, they do it from way outside. They're afraid to walk in, take some punishment, in order to take their opponent down, the way Karo Parysian does it. However, KOS takedowns seem to be a bit more explosive than Tito's, Diego has gotten a lot more quicker and he has great sprawls as seen against Nick Diaz and others. If Diego doesn't catch KOS in a submission (most likely a rear naked choke), then he should be able to win the decision because he'll outwork KOS on the ground even if he is taken down.

Just my opinion on this fight.

imo tito has decent striking diego doesn't and Kos's wrestling puts tito's to shame. Kos div 1 all american three times and won an ncaa title(was undefeated that year). Tito state champ at junior college. Nick diaz good bjj horrible wrestler, Karo gassed, Alessio that whole match was standing. So I dont see where you can say he has great takedown defense. This fight deigo will have to work well from the bottom to win it. Kos my upset, UD.

**zimmy** · 02-20-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

imo tito has decent striking diego doesn't and Kos's wrestling puts tito's to shame. Kos div 1 all american three times and won an ncaa title(was undefeated that year). Tito state champ at junior college. Nick diaz good bjj horrible wrestler, Karo gassed, Alessio that whole match was standing. So I dont see where you can say he has great takedown defense. This fight deigo will have to work well from the bottom to win it. Kos my upset, UD.

I think diego has the same problem alot of really talented bjj people do... they don't have a super great take down defense because they don't mind being put on there back as much... but in the ufc... the takedowns matter ALOT to points :\

**Hunter** · 02-20-2007, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by zimmy

I think diego has the same problem alot of really talented bjj people do... they don't have a super great take down defense because they don't mind being put on there back as much... but in the ufc... the takedowns matter ALOT to points :\

I agree 100%. Also diego was like a two time state champ out of Nm. Nm is not a huge wrestling state like minn, ohio, iowa, etc. He is a good wrestler but not a great wrestler .Also I have yet to meet alot of bjj guys with good takedowns when compared to a wrestler who comes to learn bjj. However I think most wrestlers never become as skilled at subs at a person who starts in bjj, that is jmo though.

**brjrj0000** · 02-20-2007, 02:10 PM

i like kos

**soo2bhuge** · 02-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

imo tito has decent striking diego doesn't and Kos's wrestling puts tito's to shame. Kos div 1 all american three times and won an ncaa title(was undefeated that year). Tito state champ at junior college. Nick diaz good bjj horrible wrestler, Karo gassed, Alessio that whole match was standing. So I dont see where you can say he has great takedown defense. This fight deigo will have to work well from the bottom to win it. Kos my upset, UD.

Diego's striking is getting better with every fight. I'm sure you don't want to hear his knockout against Joe Riggs, but his striking got a lot better and his head and body movement is a lot better than Tito's and KOS's for that matter. KOS doesn't even try to strike. He stays far away and shoots from way outside.
How can you say Kos's wrestling puts Tito's to shame? Based on the fact that he was div 1 all american? I don't know the story behind Tito's wrestling career and would rather not speculate, but perhaps he didn't start wrestling until he got to college or the fact that he didn't take it seriously is the only reason why he never went to a DIV1 school, but he has surely proven himself to be a great wrestler and a great takedown artist, until he started facing guys like Randy Couture who without a doubt had superior wrestling skills and more importantly takedown defenses. Basically, what is your criteria for a better wrestler??? If you ask many people, and i'm probably one of them, most of the time KOS takes the opponent down and simply keeps them down there, occassionally throwing a few elbows. I don't see him working for a submission or side control, whereas Diego is much more active on the ground.
Besides, I'm not arguing that KOS's wrestling is not superior to Diego, but it is obvious to many that his takedown attempts come from way outside and anyone who prepares accordingly should be able to stop them majority of the time. Just like Forrest did against Tito and just like Chuck does with everyone.

**sonar1234** · 02-20-2007, 02:39 PM

I want Diego to win cause i want to see him fight GSP on day, he is undefeated so far.

**rar1015** · 02-20-2007, 02:46 PM

I still dont think Diego would be able to beat GSP, Hughes or Penn.

**soo2bhuge** · 02-20-2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by rar1015

I still dont think Diego would be able to beat GSP, Hughes or Penn.

I agree but like Sonar1234 said, it would be a much better fight between Diego and GSP. I'm not ready to see KOS fight for a title shot just yet.

**Hunter** · 02-20-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by soo2bhuge

Diego's striking is getting better with every fight. I'm sure you don't want to hear his knockout against Joe Riggs, but his striking got a lot better and his head and body movement is a lot better than Tito's and KOS's for that matter. KOS doesn't even try to strike. He stays far away and shoots from way outside.
How can you say Kos's wrestling puts Tito's to shame? Based on the fact that he was div 1 all american? I don't know the story behind Tito's wrestling career and would rather not speculate, but perhaps he didn't start wrestling until he got to college or the fact that he didn't take it seriously is the only reason why he never went to a DIV1 school, but he has surely proven himself to be a great wrestler and a great takedown artist, until he started facing guys like Randy Couture who without a doubt had superior wrestling skills and more importantly takedown defenses. Basically, what is your criteria for a better wrestler??? If you ask many people, and i'm probably one of them, most of the time KOS takes the opponent down and simply keeps them down there, occassionally throwing a few elbows. I don't see him working for a submission or side control, whereas Diego is much more active on the ground.
Besides, I'm not arguing that KOS's wrestling is not superior to Diego, but it is obvious to many that his takedown attempts come from way outside and anyone who prepares accordingly should be able to stop them majority of the time. Just like Forrest did against Tito and just like Chuck does with everyone.

I am not saying Kos has better mma wrestling but by far his wrestling pedigree puts tito's to shame. Tito wrestled in highschool two time state champ and a junior college state champ. Kos was a 2-3 time all american D1 and was a champion one of those years. The same year that he was a champion he was undefeated 42-0. Kos and tito same size, kos would make tito look bad in strictly a collegiete wrestling format. I agree deigo's striking is better but I would not say his striking is good. He caught Riggs off balance and then finished with that knee. Kos smoked jonathan goulet with that big over hand to. I am saying striking wont matter in this fight becouse neither of them are very good at it. Now Kos has finished 4/7 of his ufc opponents. Won a decision in two of them and lost one. Kos is not a exciting fighter but he doesn't have to be becouse the ufc puts so much emphasize on takedowns. Kos will take deigo down at will and there will be some scrambles but I think Kos will manage to hold deigo down and win a UD.

**Hunter** · 02-20-2007, 03:02 PM

Now the rest of the weight I see it in three parts. You have GSP, Penn and Hughes. Those three can beat one another on any given night and only those three can beat each other right now. Then you get guys like Deigo,karo,alves who are good but not any where close to beating the top three. Then the rest.

**BigRandy** · 02-20-2007, 05:01 PM

i like diego in this one. hes not the most skilled but he's pretty damn tough

**$$TML 4 LIFE$$** · 02-20-2007, 09:32 PM

Im hopin diego wins but i jus got a feelin kos is jus gonna take him down with ease and end up winnin a decision. If diego happens to win he definatly deserves a title shot next

**test_cyp** · 02-20-2007, 10:11 PM

Interesting, many think Kos will take down Diego first. Diego is no chump when it comes to the ground game. I think Diego will beat him to the punch. Diego is savage.

**rar1015** · 02-21-2007, 07:36 AM

I could really care less who wins this one to be honest.

**Hunter** · 02-21-2007, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by rar1015

I could really care less who wins this one to be honest.

I am becouse the loser will probably fight J. Fitch and I think he could take either one of them. So I am actually interested in who wins this fight.

**sonar1234** · 02-21-2007, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by soo2bhuge

I agree but like Sonar1234 said, it would be a much better fight between Diego and GSP. I'm not ready to see KOS fight for a title shot just yet.

Koshcheck has improved and he is an exiting fighter but is not at the level of Diego yet.

Either way it will make an exciting fight.

**soo2bhuge** · 02-21-2007, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by sonar1234

Koshcheck has improved and he is an exiting fighter but is not at the level of Diego yet.

Either way it will make an exciting fight.

I'm a fan of the fight taking place on the ground but not when one of the fighters is Kos. I just don't find him exciting on the ground. Like most wrestlers he's usually on the ground for control and a few elbows and punches here and there. He hasn't progressed his game to the point where he is actively looking for submissions and his transitions are still very "wrestler-like", if there's such a thing. Basically, he's not very smooth on the ground like the bjj guys, which i understand will take time. He's a very dominant wrestler, no doubt about it, but his ground game is very stale and still at the Coleman 101 GnP level. But...the good thing is, he's still young and will continue to get better. personally, he's not one of my favorite fighters, in fact i don't like him that much.

**ALPHAMALE77** · 02-21-2007, 01:31 PM

Diego In The First By Ko..imo

**Tank80** · 02-21-2007, 01:44 PM

When is this fight happening?

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