Sore Losers

[Conan The Destroyer]

See Houston Alexander and Karo Paresian complaining about their losses tonight? Kinda bothers me when I see this sort of thing. Maybe they should be greatful for the stoppage. The way I see it they would have just been pounded on until they were completly out.

[Synyster]

well i personally think that houston could have went a weeeee bit longer but hey.....im no referee.

[jonny101]

i dnt think the lauzon fight shud have been stoped he wasnt realy gettin that hurt and was covering up well,maybe because its on free tv they wnt it to look less brutal maybe

[zimmy]

He stopped it right when they should have. He was not defending. When he was going for the elbow escape...the ref let it keep going. He stopped trying to do anything (but cover) so the ref called it.

[MuscleScience]

I think they were all good stoppages. You dont want anyone to get hurt.

[jonny101]

i understand what your saying but joe lauzon is a tuff dude in his pre ufc days he took worse den dat n won,and the majoraty of the time in ufc if some is covering like he was they wnt stop it imo

[zimmy]

Dude...they don't just stop fights because some one might get hurt....they stop it because the person is no longer defending. They do the same in boxing. He may not have been bloody (because of the weight class) but you can't just sit there. I know alot of the modern UFC fans want to see blood and guts....but this is a skill sport not a blood sport.

[jonny101]

Dude...they don't just stop fights because some one might get hurt....they stop it because the person is no longer defending. They do the same in boxing. He may not have been bloody (because of the weight class) but you can't just sit there. I know alot of the modern UFC fans want to see blood and guts....but this is a skill sport not a blood sport.

if your trying to say i dnt know about the sport iv been training for over 18 months in mma now i get in a cage on a regular basis i know what it takes.
if you watch previous ufcs where the ref knows that the fighter can take a beating they let it go alot longer then that fight.
thats why i said he is known as a tuff dude!i just watched it again and how can u say that hes not defending himself when hes hands/arms are clearly covering hes head and most of florians punchs arent doing any damage!

[BgMc31]

I thought both stoppages were early but that is my perception and seeing a fight on TV gives a totally different viewpoint than that of the referree. I can't argue with the stoppages but I simply don't agree with them.

I wouldn't consider either fighter sore losers. Apparently both fighters weren't hurt and thought they could continue but unfortunately the ref made what he thought was the best decision. That what happens in fights. Its part of the game.

[jonny101]

I thought both stoppages were early but that is my perception and seeing a fight on TV gives a totally different viewpoint than that of the referree. I can't argue with the stoppages but I simply don't agree with them.

I wouldn't consider either fighter sore losers. Apparently both fighters weren't hurt and thought they could continue but unfortunately the ref made what he thought was the best decision. That what happens in fights. Its part of the game.

tottaly agree with that dude

[test_cyp]

The only one that was a little premature was Thiago and Karo. Karo is a tough veteran, so they should allowed him a little more time.

Alexander..got KTFO..end of story.

Louzan was not getting out of the mount...it was over. No need for Kenny to keep hitting someone for another 2 minute or so.

[D-Bo Dre]

Alexander was Knock'd the Fu*k out!! plain and simple! Karo was rocked with Pitbull's knee to the head.. And living up to his name, Pitbull immediately pounced on him when he smelled blood.. IMO they were both good calls of stoppage..

[jonny101]

The only one that was a little premature was Thiago and Karo. Karo is a tough veteran, so they should allowed him a little more time.

Alexander..got KTFO..end of story.

Louzan was not getting out of the mount...it was over. No need for Kenny to keep hitting someone for another 2 minute or so.

karo folded like a biatch from the knee then looked out so the ref stoped it good stoppage same with alexander
louzan was fully aware of wot was goin on wasnt getin hit wiv most punchs
if u had seen him alot u would know he is fully capible 2 take that sort of pressure n turn it around

[BgMc31]

The only one that was a little premature was Thiago and Karo. Karo is a tough veteran, so they should allowed him a little more time.

Alexander..got KTFO..end of story.

Louzan was not getting out of the mount...it was over. No need for Kenny to keep hitting someone for another 2 minute or so.

its not end of story because you say so! Like I said its perception. Your perception says the fight should have been ended mine says it shouldn't have been. Doesn't matter what WE think it was the refs decision and you just happen to agree with him.

Doesn't really matter now... Can't wait for the rematch. I bet Alexander will keep his hands up and his chin tucked next time!

[D-Bo Dre]

its not end of story because you say so! Like I said its perception. Your perception says the fight should have been ended mine says it shouldn't have been. Doesn't matter what WE think it was the refs decision and you just happen to agree with him.

Doesn't really matter now... Can't wait for the rematch. I bet Alexander will keep his hands up and his chin tucked next time!

Riggggghttt! Prob be the 1st time in history when a person who gets ktfo within 8 seconds of the first round to get a second chance

[D-Bo Dre]

double post..

[zimmy]

if your trying to say i dnt know about the sport iv been training for over 18 months in mma now i get in a cage on a regular basis i know what it takes.
if you watch previous ufcs where the ref knows that the fighter can take a beating they let it go alot longer then that fight.
thats why i said he is known as a tuff dude!i just watched it again and how can u say that hes not defending himself when hes hands/arms are clearly covering hes head and most of florians punchs arent doing any damage!

edited because i don't want to get in a pissing contest... bottom line...you have to be defending or actively working for a submission...those are the guidelines for stoppage on the ground. Putting your hands in front of your face is not really defending if you aren't trying to get out of a bad position.

[Jojoe]

I agree good stops all around. Even in boxing they'll stop it if your not defending yourself. Safety is of the upmost importance. I compete in MMA as well. Ya know what ya gotta do and what it takes but at the same time there is no need to take an endless barrage of punches if you have no way of countering and firing back some. Thats what happened to Joe L. Zimmy is right on point

[jonny101]

I agree good stops all around. Even in boxing they'll stop it if your not defending yourself. Safety is of the upmost importance. I compete in MMA as well. Ya know what ya gotta do and what it takes but at the same time there is no need to take an endless barrage of punches if you have no way of countering and firing back some. Thats what happened to Joe L. Zimmy is right on point

i completly disagree if your not geting hurt by the punchs you shud b alowed to go on,and it doesnt make someone right just because you say,its a matter of opinion lots of ppl will agree with me and lots wont there is no right or wrong.
i have seen loads of fights in the /cage rage/elitexc where they have been takein ALOT more punishment and still let it go on because the ref knows that a particular fighter can take more punishment hen others

[jonny101]

edited because i don't want to get in a pissing contest... bottom line...you have to be defending or actively working for a submission...those are the guidelines for stoppage on the ground. Putting your hands in front of your face is not really defending if you aren't trying to get out of a bad position.

I dnt want to get in a "pissing contest" either i was defending myself as i saw it
anyway zimmy we will ave 2 agree 2 disagree lol

[BG]

Dude...they don't just stop fights because some one might get hurt....they stop it because the person is no longer defending. They do the same in boxing. He may not have been bloody (because of the weight class) but you can't just sit there. I know alot of the modern UFC fans want to see blood and guts....but this is a skill sport not a blood sport.

Great post, there is a big diffference between MMA and new school UFC fans.

[fdrx7man]

just like bill belechik or whatever crys over everything when he loses! ha hah a ok im done now!

[jonny101]

Great post, there is a big diffference between MMA and new school UFC fans.

lol i love the fact that i am an mma fighter and watched it since ufc 1 n iv been called a "new" fan twice

[fdrx7man]

same here man!! im not a die hard mma competitor its more of a hobby of mine,.. i like to train for it really its a blast!

[jonny101]

best thing i think anyone can do

[fdrx7man]

yup! its crazy how much fun you actually have doing it! yes you fight but its not cause you actually hate the other guy lol.. its a sport aftrer wards u hug shake hands and thats it! no hatred anywhere!

unless your ken shamrock lol! he hates everyone lol!

[jonny101]

yup! its crazy how much fun you actually have doing it! yes you fight but its not cause you actually hate the other guy lol.. its a sport aftrer wards u hug shake hands and thats it! no hatred anywhere!

unless your ken shamrock lol! he hates everyone lol!

and evryone hates him

[lotaquestions]

these guys know the rules, and if your not defending yourself at all time the referee is going to stop the fight. i think both stops were a little premature but i dont think the outcomes of the fight would have been any different. professional referees, in any sport make alot of money, and like the athletes have to prove that they belong and are the best at what they do.

[RBD85]

best fight night yet... great calls by the ref's. I agree with the stopages 100%... and I would also like to add that karo is a whiney little biatch and I hope he continues to lose. rem on tuf6 when him and nate got into it? "do you know who I am?" lol yes karo your a joke and a cry baby at that.

[lotaquestions]

best fight night yet... great calls by the ref's. I agree with the stopages 100%... and I would also like to add that karo is a whiney little biatch and I hope he continues to lose. rem on tuf6 when him and nate got into it? "do you know who I am?" lol yes karo your a joke and a cry baby at that.

agreed about karo. i give him props on his judo, but think his mouth out weighs his butt alot of times. i think that he was looking for an excuse and acted like he was mad that the ref stoped it, but when he thinks back he knows that it was the right decesion.

[sprawlbrawl]

karo folded like a biatch from the knee then looked out so the ref stoped it good stoppage same with alexander
louzan was fully aware of wot was goin on wasnt getin hit wiv most punchs
if u had seen him alot u would know he is fully capible 2 take that sort of pressure n turn it around

for once we agree lol

[sprawlbrawl]

Houstin showed no class he was out i lost respect for him for being a ***** like that he got owned but understand sometimes you get rocked or knocked out you dont realize that it happend but he saw the replay and still denied it

[Pooks]

just like bill belechik or whatever crys over everything when he loses! ha hah a ok im done now!

ummm, i know this is unrelated, but u dragged it in..

but What are u talking bout Bill Belichick crying when he loses LMAO..

Doods analytical as can be, guy is all about not displaying much emotion, and sticking to the game plan..

and on top of that..

when he loses?

The guy does not lose that often, so don't be mixxing him up with losers.

LOL..

[MuscleScience]

Houstin showed no class he was out i lost respect for him for being a ***** like that he got owned but understand sometimes you get rocked or knocked out you dont realize that it happend but he saw the replay and still denied it

You remember when he beat Jardine. He got rocked in the first thirty seconds and was lucky jardine could not capitalize. He said after the fight that he was never hurt by Jardine's punch, when clearly the video showed that he got rocked. Not talking shit on him, cause he did a good job of recovering and winning the fight. I think the hype about him was a bit premature, I love watching his fights though.

[BG]

lol i love the fact that i am an mma fighter and watched it since ufc 1 n iv been called a "new" fan twice

First of all I would have qouted you if I was speaking to you, my reference to "New School" fans was about Zim saying everybody looking for "blood and guts", had nothing to do with you, I know nothing of you so I have no right to speak about you.

[jonny101]

First of all I would have qouted you if I was speaking to you, my reference to "New School" fans was about Zim saying everybody looking for "blood and guts", had nothing to do with you, I know nothing of you so I have no right to speak about you.

fair enough m8 no worrys

[zimmy]

lol i love the fact that i am an mma fighter and watched it since ufc 1 n iv been called a "new" fan twice

I wasn't refering to you personally but take it how you want. And you have mentioned that you fought and trained for a bit. So have I ...so have lots here....that is why I am surprised that you think that you can lay there and do nothing and not have a stoppage. Also... This fighting is new in the UK....so I guess I can cut you some leeway :P

[jonny101]

lol the fighting is new? its been going as long as ufc lol its not just cage rage

[BG]

fair enough m8 no worrys

It's all good buddy.