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    Preparing for small local fight

    Hey you guys, I am going to enter a local fight in a few months, my first fight ever officially. I wanted to get any advice since i am basicallly doing this alone besides some help from a wrestler friend of mine.

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    250lbs 20%bodyfat - I want to go as low as I can class wise, suggestions?
    6ft

    Strong points: Boxing, strength, mind, chemically supplemented
    Weak points: Conditioning, not extremely familiar with grappling, pre existing potential injuries - back/shoulders

    That basically sums it up, any questions ask away and I will clarify if needed. Any advice is appreciated (diet, training aside from bodybuilding, cutting weight, appropriate class I should aim for etc) . I know its a long hard road, I am just doing it for fun and to see where I can go if I give it my all.

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    205 is a possibility but you are going to have to be very strict. Sometimes staying at heavy is the best choice though due to lack of competition

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    what I see has far more important than weight is overall conditioning. To me this is the most important factor in any fight. Look at the guys from hammer house. Lots of cardio is what you are going to need. Work on that ground game as well

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    Totally agree, thanks BN.

    I had a question, how do you devise the apparatus that limits your air intake when doing cardio? You know what I am talkin about? I am not sure what the exact name is.

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    I think that you are reffering to what Wandy uses, right? I think they can be pretty home made if we are talking about the same thing. They just run with a snorkel on. on do most of their circuit training with one on as well.

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    What made you decide to fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    I think that you are reffering to what Wandy uses, right? I think they can be pretty home made if we are talking about the same thing. They just run with a snorkel on. on do most of their circuit training with one on as well.
    yea thats it but its all taped up, what else do you have to do to it?

    I basically have just always loved fighting since i was a kid, I used to get a lot of attention from it so I did it a lot, got kicked out of every school because of it. I've always been the guy my friends look to when there in a fight or whatever. I have a bad temper and boxing/weightlifting has been a great outlet and I just dont want to say I never tried to actually fight when Im an old geezer. I think it would be a great experience, win or lose.It will be good for me.

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    u have any ground game???

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    ground game would be key my man. Having a fight only a few months outs kinda limits you but work heavy on stuffing take downs and basic sub defense.

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    pull out of the arm bar and lean into the triangle!

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    also congrats on having the balls to test yourself. We all wish you the best

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    bro, I would stay at the weight class your at right now...you would have to lose 45 pounds and most of it would be water but the most you could dehydrate is 20 pounds. being that is your first fight i would not put your body through that...since you dont have much of a ground game I think staying at a heaver weight will help as well....at 205 lhw they have some skill on the ground and can move a lot faster then most heavy weights....so your size will help you with your inexperience on the ground...I would work you cardio as much as possible but becarefull with to much running at that weight it puts a lot or presser on your knees and since you will be getting kicked in the leg it could weaken you.....(remember it is only two months away after you get this first one over with then you can change the way you train because you have more time to condistion your body)...dont be afraid to hit the carbs with all the training you will be doing....I would stay away from them at night or around bed time.....eat a lot of protein and if you have been doing reps at the gym keep that up...get away from the 3 to 8 reps and do more 20 to 30 reps....since you will be moving you body weight around the hole time...i would do a lot of body weight plus exercise, such as pull up, dips, hanging abs..pushup..ect....I am sure will come to mind and will hit you back up
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    So, you just went and said you wanted to fight and they OKed it. I thought you needed some sort of sponsorship from a gym or something like that.

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    Tambit he is talking about doing a local show where alot of the times they don't even have enough competitors to fill up all of the weight classes.

    To the original OP, I have to agree with Brown Ninja, I would work on conditioning because essentially that is the one thing you can definitely control during the fight. Being able to last and not gas out in the 1st minute of the fight is extremely important if you want to be successful.

    Also congrats on trying something new and exciting out that most people would never try. I know I still have not decided to fight on the amatuer circuit and I am 29.

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    Thanks you guys, I totally understand and agree with all the advice. I always wrap my knees, I know conditioning is a huge issue so I am going to concentrate on that I think while still keeping protein high with the right carbs and limit fat. I have basically always used a 6-12 rep range but I think Im going to add 1-2 sets of 20+ reps at the end of each excercise, or burnouts basically.

    Like I said, my strength is my strength so I am going to try to apply that in every aspect. Hopefully it will help with the areas weak in my game right now. I can usually over power most people my size but, we will see what happens in the ring. My boxing is pretty gooD imo, I have knocked out people before with one punch, I really dont imagine many people being able to hang easily if I get a clean shot on em, that would impress me.

    I am not planning on winning or losing, I simply want to do my best, see what happens and have fun with it. I think it will do nothing but good for me.

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    good luck

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    give em hell. we will all be pulling for you. keep us updated

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    Good luck, use angles and keep moving. I would just worry about cardio and dropping say 10 lbs just to be faster.

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    Good luck bro, post the vid of the fight for us how bout it?

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    Kick his ass Sea Bass

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    Best of luck...

    Work on your ground game.

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    Yup work on weaknesses. Take some BJJ classes bro.

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    Think Sprawl and maul

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    I fight 205 but off time i get to 220 then cut just before fight. i get down to 4-5 bodyfat with good diet and clen .

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    4 to 5%? That is low.....

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    i get down to 4-5 bodyfat with good diet and clen.
    Youre looking closer to 12 in that pic.

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    war I miss you. New fights? Back at school?

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    good luck

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    Are you fighting the guy from the other thread? That would be rad.

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    i would highly recomend going to a real MMA school and sparring someone equivalent to your opponent, and then decide if you really want to fight before you have the proper training.

    competing in MMA without training would be like getting off your couch and trying to enter a local bodybuilding show without training or dieting.

    whats your area, i'll try to recomend a reputable school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southmadejd View Post
    To the original OP, I have to agree with Brown Ninja, I would work on conditioning because essentially that is the one thing you can definitely control during the fight. Being able to last and not gas out in the 1st minute of the fight is extremely important if you want to be successful.
    normally i would agree, but if he fights a credible opponent with such limited training, he probably won't last long enough for conditioning to matter.

    if you are determined to fight without proper preparation, demand that the promoter match you up with someone equally inexperienced, or some delusional karate guy (there is one on every card).

    let me tell something about promoters - the first guy he'll try to set you up with some hellacious bastard that nobody else wants to fight. but at heavweight, there is always some fatty that wants to call himself a "Professional Fighter"...have them set you up with that guy instead. you can always fight Hellacious Bastard later.

    remember, talking with a promoter is a negotiation, and they are the worst kind of lying used car salesman you've ever encountered. and never take the first offer!

    "The Desire to win is nothing without the Desire to prepare to win."

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    war I miss you. New fights? Back at school?
    nothin but training.

    Big grappling events comin up...

    Pan Ams, ADCC, Worlds... etc...

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    That is to much weight unless you take more time. Also no clen your body core temp we'll go to high during your training. If your going to fight get enough jiu-jitsu to tie the guy up good enough for them to stand you.Work alot of sprawling. ALOT of cardio will pay off. Trust me bro Im 20-6 nad have fought dude like Mat Hugh

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    Thats good if you are the guy i think you are u need to work on your grappling

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGBREAKER123 View Post
    Thats good if you are the guy i think you are u need to work on your grappling

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    Trust me bro Im 20-6 nad have fought dude like Mat Hugh
    Youre seriously claiming that youve fought hughes...

    um... Yeah, no.

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    did you beat Hughes? He's a *****! I have 40lbs of muscle on Hughes and he would rag doll the shit out of me without sweating

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    I'm 10-0 against frat boys and old men

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    I was taught the spindle breakdown by brock lesner at a U of M wrestling camp. Watching him try to put into words what he is thinking is the funniest thing in the world. I also fought kimbo slice well a guy who looked like kimbo kinda except he was white and not muscular.

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