Technique,experience,skill,coming up short

[ftony]

So this is the formula to success??? 95% of it you will need to be born with, size, athleticism and a bit of wrestling that you excelled at,because of your size and athleticism..

This is all that's needed to steam roll professional martial artist in the ufc????Martial artist who have no chance to even use there techniques,with the exeption of mir Catching lesnar in a knee bar in his "first" ufc fight .

I'm kind of surprised and not surprised at the same time...But now I here cry's for fedor?To a guy that has what, 5 fights...

I'm coming to a conclusion I had when I was younger...Size Mass Definitely matters, technique is a last ditch effort to survive the larger aggressor....I'm not attempting to ruffle anyone's feathers,Im just stated what "appears" to be obvious.

If fedor is What it takes to beat a hard punching fighter that has displayed nothing more than basic wrestling techniqes to this point ,MMA is Taking a back seat to size and power.And if lesnar was to beat fedor,I dont know what else to say....But it would be Disheartening to say the least.

[icepick27]

STOP CRYING ... LESNAR is a monster , if mir had so many TECHNIQES ,he would have been able to stad up ? randy got took down by lesnar and got back up ,mirr just didnt have no answer for his strength AND FEDOR WONT EITHER !! LET FEDOR HIDE THE REST OF HIS LIFE OVER AFFLICTION

[ftony]

I'm not crying,guess you only read the parts you cared to comment on.

[sooners04]

I couldn't agree more FTONY, Mir an accomplished BJJ fighter, ex heavyweight champ, someone who knocked out Big Nog, which Fedor couldn't do. I hate Brock as a person, he's boring as a fighter but he is big and strong and has 5 fights and has beat a legend and a former champ who EARNED a title shot. Mir and all his BJJ was useless, just like Royce against Hughes. Apparently strong wrestling wins over excellent BJJ?

[Hunter]

I couldn't agree more FTONY, Mir an accomplished BJJ fighter, ex heavyweight champ, someone who knocked out Big Nog, which Fedor couldn't do. I hate Brock as a person, he's boring as a fighter but he is big and strong and has 5 fights and has beat a legend and a former champ who EARNED a title shot. Mir and all his BJJ was useless, just like Royce against Hughes. Apparently strong wrestling wins over excellent BJJ?

You cont compare Hughes to Royce, first off Hughes has very high level Bjj and is much larger then Royce. Also Royce is far past his prime. He may not be amazing off his back but has an amazing top game with guard passing. Mirs Bjj is good but not great and alot of people consider it over rated.

As for size is number one, look at B.j Penn, Gsp has techinical wrestling, his knee taps are perfect. Dans swimming is text book. Does size and athletic ability matter of course, but so does techinique.

On a side not Barnett would Handily beat brock at this point in his career.

[icepick27]

matt hughes would smash royce in his prime, he is a bjj fighter thats it , back in the old days no one knew how to defend bjj , no one even knew what it was at the time and on top of that it was gracies own style of it ,,, u cant compare any one from those days to new fighters they would get smashed , back then it was style vs style ,these fighters now train mma , not just one thing

[Brown Ninja]

and Matt Hughes isn't one dimensional?

[Brown Ninja]

I am not sure if Barnett could beat Lesnar after the other night. Very interesting fight though

[skinnypunk]

I am so glad that Matt Hughes doesn't matter any more! He was extremely one dimensional in my opinion. People always said that his jits was so good and very underrated, but I never saw it. He was a one trick pony. A really good wrestler who came along at the right time, and had some success doing what he always does: Take people down, occasionally drop someone on their head, control position on the ground, and do a little ground and pound. He had a god run, but today's mma fighter has passed him by.

[yannick35]

Dont know if you watched the fight but Lesnar had a game plan and one hell off a game plan, chest on chest, Mir could not do nothing.

Watch out Lesnar is going to be huge in MMA.

[Brown Ninja]

^^^agreed