UFC will own MMA in less then a year

**yannick35** · 07-31-2009, 03:11 PM

Seeing how almost all the big players close there doors.

IFL, Pride, they say Dream 11 is not sure to happen, Affliction even if it was not that big,Bodog and many more.

I am not sure how heatly StrikeForce is, the fact that they want a partnership with M-1 Global might mean they are on a losing end has well.

UFC is the only organization where the fighters are under contract that prevent them to fight anywhere, I mean look at StrikeForce, Babalu and Overeem are champions but fight in other promo.

Still would be nice if the UFC had competition.

**icepick27** · 07-31-2009, 07:06 PM

they already do .... but it is going to be even sweeter when they have every one .. they know fighting and know how to run a company thats the bottom .............dana is a genius .........

BG · 07-31-2009, 07:24 PM

^^^^would you suc Dana's dic if he wanted you to??

**southmadejd** · 08-01-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by BG

^^^^would you suc Dana's dic if he wanted you to??

I really think Icepick would. And swallow the cream and everything. Poor guy....

BG · 08-01-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by southmadejd

I really think Icepick would. And swallow the cream and everything. Poor guy....

Haha sure seems like it.

**Brown Ninja** · 08-01-2009, 03:27 PM

He would gurgle it, spit in a shot glass and then share it with his sister

BG · 08-01-2009, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Brown Ninja

He would gurgle it, spit in a shot glass and then share it with his sister

WOW !! Guess he isnt on your Christmas list hehehe

**Brown Ninja** · 08-02-2009, 05:00 PM

I love him, i just know it to be true

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-14-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by icepick27

they already do .... but it is going to be even sweeter when they have every one .. they know fighting and know how to run a company thats the bottom .............dana is a genius .........

Its going to suck when they have everyone. Its no good for the fighters. They cant fight for better paydays when they have no bargaining chips.Its bad when a guy has to fight for 3,000/3,000 and maybe only gets 3/4 fights a year with the UFC. Plus dana wont let them make money else where.Its bullshit

**roid_rage** · 09-14-2009, 02:18 PM

it will suck d**k! it will be much better if there are a couple of ORGs around, and the UFC allow their fighters to compete against other fighters, It will be great a UFC vs The World tournament.

**yannick35** · 09-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Well right now UFC got some pertty good $$$ and knockout bonus, fight of the night and sub of the night which are always between 60k and 100k.

Even if a guy fights 3-4 times a year, of course he has to win and make an name for himself he can make some pertty sick money, including merchandise and all that comes with the UFC hype.

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-14-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by yannick35

Well right now UFC got some pertty good $$$ and knockout bonus, fight of the night and sub of the night which are always between 60k and 100k.

Even if a guy fights 3-4 times a year, of course he has to win and make an name for himself he can make some pertty sick money, including merchandise and all that comes with the UFC hype.

which most mid carders or guys who go 3 and out and then come back will never see.Its no good for one company to hold all the cards.

**BgMc31** · 09-14-2009, 02:48 PM

Sports are one of the only businesses that monopolies are actually better for the sport. It's worked fabulously for football, baseball, and basketball. The problem with fighting (MMA and boxing) is the athletes themselves have no voice. If fighters unionized, the way other major sports have, they would/could negotiate %s. And if the orgs don't want to play fair, the fighters strike. It worked well for football and baseball and the threat of a strike worked for basketball as well.

**misignio** · 09-14-2009, 02:52 PM

Use strike force

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-14-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Sports are one of the only businesses that monopolies are actually better for the sport. It's worked fabulously for football, baseball, and basketball. The problem with fighting (MMA and boxing) is the athletes themselves have no voice. If fighters unionized, the way other major sports have, they would/could negotiate %s. And if the orgs don't want to play fair, the fighters strike. It worked well for football and baseball and the threat of a strike worked for basketball as well.

agreed.Union is the way to go

**elpropiotorvic** · 09-15-2009, 04:55 PM

^^^ yeah that's the only way they don't get fvucked over... Have u guys seen those purses that they give the first timers... 2500 for a win? WTF that's what they spend in gym coach diet and supps... Man I almost punch something when I saw that these peoe that bust their asses working out , and holding full time jobs cause they hav bills to pay that IFC doesn't ... And they get that sh!t pay

**yannick35** · 09-15-2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic

^^^ yeah that's the only way they don't get fvucked over... Have u guys seen those purses that they give the first timers... 2500 for a win? WTF that's what they spend in gym coach diet and supps... Man I almost punch something when I saw that these peoe that bust their asses working out , and holding full time jobs cause they hav bills to pay that IFC doesn't ... And they get that sh!t pay

Well dont forget that most of theses fighters are coaches too, and teach MMA or bjj

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-15-2009, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by yannick35

Well dont forget that most of theses fighters are coaches too, and teach MMA or bjj

true. Most have to own or teach at schools just to be able to survive.Plus if you lose 3 in a row you are cut.This is why some guys make more fighting 6 times a year for Rage in the cage,or Ring of Combat.They will end up making more than they would in the UFC.Dont get me wrong,everyone is looking to fight in the UFC though

**elpropiotorvic** · 09-16-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by yannick35

Well dont forget that most of theses fighters are coaches too, and teach MMA or bjj

yeah but the effort time and money that they put into fighting doesnt pay off

**Brown Ninja** · 09-16-2009, 12:49 PM

if 3k to show and 3k to win doesn't tickle your fancy your not a real fighter!

**ectomorph28** · 09-16-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by icepick27

they already do .... but it is going to be even sweeter when they have every one .. they know fighting and know how to run a company thats the bottom .............dana is a genius .........

I remember Dana was opposed to doing the Reality Show even though the Fertittas were pushing for it hard.

Lets be honest, Dana is nothing special, just right place at the right time. He'd have to be an idiot to screw it up and he almost did.

**ectomorph28** · 09-16-2009, 02:57 PM

For casual fans it wont matter but for fighters and hardcore fans a monopoly is the worst thing for the sport.

You need competition, without competition we will get Evans/Bisping, Jardine/Rampage, Belfort/Franklin PPV's.

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-16-2009, 09:38 PM

"For casual fans it wont matter but for fighters and hardcore fans a monopoly is the worst thing for the sport."

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

**ACJiujitsu** · 09-16-2009, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Brown Ninja

if 3k to show and 3k to win doesn't tickle your fancy your not a real fighter!

LOL,you cant tickle much with 3 grand

**ExtendMy10R** · 09-17-2009, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by ectomorph28

For casual fans it wont matter but for fighters and hardcore fans a monopoly is the worst thing for the sport.

You need competition, without competition we will get Evans/Bisping, Jardine/Rampage, Belfort/Franklin PPV's.

Exactly. Great post.

Honestly at this point the UFC does own MMA, whether most people want to admit or not. They have the majority of the top fighters per weight class, and have the highest ratings per event compared to other fight promotions (m1/strikeforce, wamma, ect. ect.) Good marketing and a big wallet play into this though.

When Fedor's contract eventually runs out with m1/strikeforce and he HOPEFULLY joins the UFC to face some top 10 competitors, they will almost own every top tier fighter in MMA( as far as casual fans go, anyways)

**elpropiotorvic** · 09-17-2009, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by Brown Ninja

if 3k to show and 3k to win doesn't tickle your fancy your not a real fighter!

I don't know man....If I have a full time job why bother for 6k....

The time and effort put into the fight is just gonna make very tired, break ur wallet on groceries and supps, and not see ur kids and wife properly... It's not too hard to get a full time job that pays that,

true fighters do it because they like it but it's just wrong not to be payed when you are entertaining big crowds, And IMO martial artists would see fighting just as another aspect of their way of living, so why earn 24k a year busting ur ass at the gym and risking a good beat up, when u can find jobs that pay 75k and still have time to work out, not be too tired to see ur kids and properly do ur husband duties, even some time for community work...

Just my thought

**Biohazard74** · 09-17-2009, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic

I don't know man....If I have a full time job why bother for 6k....

true fighters do it because they like it

That was the part that said it all. Only i'd change like to love

**elpropiotorvic** · 09-17-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Biohazard74

That was the part that said it all. Only i'd change like to love

Sorry man didnt understand please explain english is not my mother language

**stang** · 10-19-2009, 08:28 PM

strick force will be around they have a huge deal with cbs

**Brown Ninja** · 10-20-2009, 02:51 PM

^^^ I'm curious to see how that show

**yannick35** · 10-21-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by stang

strick force will be around they have a huge deal with cbs

The Nov 7 card looks good so I guess we will see.

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