is this a good weight for an mma fighter?

[deadkey]

okay so im trying to figure out where to set my goals as far as size n weight goes.

im 6ft 2in at the moment and weigh 178lbs at the most and usually 171 after a two hour mma session. ill include a pic if i can, but im just trying to figure out if i need to gain more weight or not, im all natural and dont plan on using anytime soon. oh n i will also add that i dont do any lower body lifting just running..


thanks,

deadkey

[shaihulud7]

I can give U some advice but I need 2 know more about your fighting style and your body.

Anderson Silva is a striker, he is more on the lanky side.
Lesnar is a wrestler he is bulkier.

That kind of gives u an idea but not really. It depends more of your style than your Forte. If you like to pick your shot from the outside and play the doctor then fight light. If you like to be up close and personal, exchange a lot then yea go heavier.
The most important by the way is not really your size but the reach of your arms and legs.

I have 2 friends that are your size. one is 6.2 for 155 pounds the other is 6.2 for 270 pounds. Both are very good stand up fighter. My friend @ 155 for some strange reason is one of the hardest puncher I ever met. He breaks some ribs with 16 onces gloves. So at his size he has reach and he packs the biggest punches. If he was to move up he would lose those advantages. My other friends trains @ the Mejiro gym in Holland. He has legs like tree trunks and his low-kicks are just overwhelming. I think though he would lose a lot of strength if he was to lose weight.

I'm not sure I am being very clear but tell me more and I'll try to advise u as best as i can.

[deadkey]

well as far as my fighting style goes, im a muay thai fighter n like to stay on my feet but im comfortable on the ground, with that being said i also know bjj. i like to use my jabs n punches to slowly wear away at people, im not as fast as someone like anderson silva but i try n mirror him and this guy named ramon dekkers. i have a very long body, arms, n legs, n a fair amount of muscle n id say average fat,

idk if this helped you or not but if u need more info or im not helpin lemme know.

I can give U some advice but I need 2 know more about your fighting style and your body.

Anderson Silva is a striker, he is more on the lanky side.
Lesnar is a wrestler he is bulkier.

That kind of gives u an idea but not really. It depends more of your style than your Forte. If you like to pick your shot from the outside and play the doctor then fight light. If you like to be up close and personal, exchange a lot then yea go heavier.
The most important by the way is not really your size but the reach of your arms and legs.

I have 2 friends that are your size. one is 6.2 for 155 pounds the other is 6.2 for 270 pounds. Both are very good stand up fighter. My friend @ 155 for some strange reason is one of the hardest puncher I ever met. He breaks some ribs with 16 onces gloves. So at his size he has reach and he packs the biggest punches. If he was to move up he would lose those advantages. My other friends trains @ the Mejiro gym in Holland. He has legs like tree trunks and his low-kicks are just overwhelming. I think though he would lose a lot of strength if he was to lose weight.

I'm not sure I am being very clear but tell me more and I'll try to advise u as best as i can.

[shaihulud7]

yea Raimon Dekker the Deutch Diamon. I grow up watching him, love the guy.

If U like to use your jab and wear people out then don't gain too much. Look at Silva he is very tall and lanky for a 185 but not that fast. Just fast enough but he has the eye. He reads so well the weaknesses and he is so slick. If you are also more into BJJ than wrestling I say keep fighting at 170. I think for you 155 would be to light and you will lose to much strength on the ground compare to the competition. 170 would be a good fight weight. try to get to 185 of lean meat if for you losing 15 pounds for a fight is ok. sure pro lose like 20, 25 pounds at 170 but they are paid and the weight in is 3 days before. Most amateur and smoker fights weight in are 1 day to 1 hour before the fight so no time to get the water back in the body.

Perso I'm 5.11/6 for 173 and I also love to jab and wear people out. So I fight my smockers (weight in one 1 hour before at 170) and my amateur fights (weight in a day before) at 155.

Also how old are U? If u are under 25 start fighting light u'll gain weight later. Silva was fighting @ 170 in pride I think (needs to be verified) he started @ 155.

[Knockout_Power]

Honestly, with your height and judging by that pic you could even hard cut + water cut to make 155... if you learn to use that reach to keep your opponent away, you could do very well against the typical 155'r @ 5'6-5'10... that being said, if your JJ is good, its hard to cope with someone your height as well.

[burn219]

^^ i agree

[shaihulud7]

you can also go at 155. it would definitely give you a reach advantage and would be good for the BJJ but make sure that u do not lose too much power.

[deadkey]

thanks for the advice guys, im 18 at the moment and im not currently training due to injuries and financial issues but im hoping to be ready by next summer. and about the cutting, ive never been a very cut person, ive never had abs once in my life n i work em out like no ones buisiness haha. i just decided to start doin deadlifts and squats again. but how in the world do people cutt??? ive never been able too.

[NP_Gorilla88]

cutting weight is a science and it can be a little diffrent for everyone, i know guys that walk around at 180 that cut to 155 but it's a process, for example you walk around at 178 u said and are 171 after a hard training session so you know you can sweat off 7 pounds just in your training gear. Say you wanted to fight at 155, get your bf% checked if posable to see if you can loose any fat without taxing your lean mass. Depending on those results you could diet off a couple pounds without loosin too much strength if any. In preparations for weigh ins (2-3 weeks) you should be drinking tuns of water every day to make sure you are fully hydrated like 4-6L or 1-1.5 gal depending on where you are. Shy away from sodium rich foods (salt) because they cause your body to retain more water. 1 week beforehand cut the sodium down to as little as posable without crampin up and you can switch over to distilled water to flush it out of your system and some of your extra water weight and then 24-48h before you weigh in stop eating solid food and 24h cut off the water and cut the water weight to hit 155.
lol this sounds like a rant but there's more stuff you can do to tweek it and there are options on how you would cut the water weight weather you use a sauna, sauna suiite, sweats and cardio or what not it all depends on how it taxes your endurence and how well you can rehydrate yourself. It's always wise to do a test cut just to see how your body responds to it and see if you can drop the water without feeling like you are dying.

and to clean the air all professional mma fights are day before weigh ins. wrestling, judo is same day and if you go in diffrent weight classes you have to weigh in more than once, some grappling tournaments are day before but most are day of. amature fights can vary some are day off and some day before and others you weight in day of and day before to prevent guys from cutting shitloads of weight for safty reasons.

as far as rehydrating is concerned high electrolight sport beverages like gatorade or pedialight help you hehydrate and retain the water, alot of guys carb up with complex and simple carbohydrates because they help your body retain water and high sodium foods ie salty shit but good foods are better than junk so you don't feel bloated and slow.
wow that was long i hope it helps dude and best of luck to you.

[glacierflow]

You definately have options as to where you fight. Should be strong at 170, Should be fast at 185. 155 wont be an option for long, as you continue to grow. 205 is still a ways off as well. How do you feel you compare to other guys you train with who are 170 and 185, in regards to speed, strength, and conditioning? Being a striker I think if you should try to be the the most powerfull guy at 170, or the quickest guy at 185. But definately train legs. Our strikers really like bar lunges light to moderate weight and lots of reps, mountain climbers done as fast as possible. Plyometrics are also popular, hop off a bench, go down to a squat position and explode jumping back up. But everyone is unique, ya gotta find your game and perfect it. Good luck!

[SpleenLSD]

178 is a bit tween-ish for the current weight classes. 155 looks like a stretch, especially since you're still very young and still growing. Making a cut that big is going to cost you strength and legs. On the other hand, 178 is very light for 170 where many guys, in particular guys with competitive wrestling experience, can cut to 170 from the 190s.

[deadkey]

You definately have options as to where you fight. Should be strong at 170, Should be fast at 185. 155 wont be an option for long, as you continue to grow. 205 is still a ways off as well. How do you feel you compare to other guys you train with who are 170 and 185, in regards to speed, strength, and conditioning? Being a striker I think if you should try to be the the most powerfull guy at 170, or the quickest guy at 185. But definately train legs. Our strikers really like bar lunges light to moderate weight and lots of reps, mountain climbers done as fast as possible. Plyometrics are also popular, hop off a bench, go down to a squat position and explode jumping back up. But everyone is unique, ya gotta find your game and perfect it. Good luck!

thanks, in 170-185 range im definately faster than other guys i fight being as i am taller and skinnier than them, im really flexible on the ground too, also i can kick really damn hard. the only other guys i saw who put as much power into their kicks were 225lbs dudes,

[Lifeguard102]

this is one of the most phony threads I've ever read.
As an MMA fighter you would know what weight class you compete at correct?
Also wouldn't you have the experience to know if you would fare better at a lower weight? Typically most do. Its called sucking weight.
Gaining muscle usually compromises endurance and flexibility not to mention bumping you up a class.
YOU WOULD KNOW THIS.
Why not rephrase the questiion ,
I want to compete in MMA .
Do any of the MMA/Boxing guys in this section know how the weight classes are set up?
Also, can you help me determine what class is best for me?

Please use some honesty and don't pretend to be an MMA guy. Saying things like "also i can kick really damn hard. the only other guys i saw who put as much power into their kicks were 225lbs dudes" proves you're no MMA fighter yet.

[deadkey]

1.the reason for posting this was to help me find my weight class, i mean i can easily cut to 155 right now, i can easily bulk to 185 then cut to 170, shit if i wanted i could bulk to 225 n cut to 205 from there if i wanted.

2.as i have stated earlier, i am not training right now due to finances and the fact that im either working or in college most of the time.

3. i know how to cut weight, ive been familiar with this for a while i just wanted to see what anyone else had to say about it.

4. i wasnt ''pretending" to be anything. i do train, and i am planning on fighting next spring. true i have no actual fights under my belt but does that mean im not an mma fighter? No it doesnt, it just means i havent had any sanctioned fights, now street brawls, backyard fights, beatdowns, heck yes i have. the only reason i ever joined mma in the first place was to learn how to defend myself and to beat the piss outa someone who tried me.

this is one of the most phony threads I've ever read.
As an MMA fighter you would know what weight class you compete at correct?
Also wouldn't you have the experience to know if you would fare better at a lower weight? Typically most do. Its called sucking weight.
Gaining muscle usually compromises endurance and flexibility not to mention bumping you up a class.
YOU WOULD KNOW THIS.
Why not rephrase the questiion ,
I want to compete in MMA .
Do any of the MMA/Boxing guys in this section know how the weight classes are set up?
Also, can you help me determine what class is best for me?

Please use some honesty and don't pretend to be an MMA guy. Saying things like "also i can kick really damn hard. the only other guys i saw who put as much power into their kicks were 225lbs dudes" proves you're no MMA fighter yet.