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Vitor before and after TRT
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You guys follow UFC ?
Vitor before and after TRT
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Big change , age and training had a lot to do with it also. He was getting much smaller but still in good shape the past few years but let himself go recently.
Lol he was manipulating trt. He was blasting and cruising
Oh ya back in the day he was going hard! That was the exact issue with allowing hrt. Did they do away with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bio-Active
Yes no trt is allowed anymore. That is why some of the guys left and others went way down hill. Look at JDS and look at him before when he was so goodQuote:
Originally Posted by BG
Wow! That must have sucked so bad......as far as JDS I thought he was sick ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bio-Active
he was on trt before and had to come off cause of the new rules just like Frank Mir and rampage jackson dan Henderson the list goes on and on. Forrest griffen etcQuote:
Originally Posted by BG
Definite game changer .........but for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bio-Active
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Originally Posted by goalinmind
TRT can make a drastic difference in a physique but my bet in that 1st pic VITOR was on a little more than TRT.
Overeem, before and after,
http://i.imgur.com/rkfu9yM.png
At left, 263 lbs in 2011
At right, 243 lbs in 2015
In 2012 he was suspended for a T/E ratio of 14:1. This was an NSAC test (before the UFC hired USADA) and they never tested to identify what AAS he was taking (or if they did, they never told). 'Reem blamed it on a prescription anti-inflammatory that he was unaware contained testosterone. So presumedly whatever he was taking in the photo on the left was too risky when he'd already been popped once.
Now his T/E ratio regularly tests less than 1:1, As does that of Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier. Victor Conte has been saying for some time that all these guys with abnormally low T/E ratios need further testing, but there's no rule against having a low T/E.
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And five years earlier but still aged 26:
http://www.thefightgame.tv/pride_tot...overeem_01.jpg
The Dutch officially are the tallest people on earth so I guess 'Reem didn't top out and start growing sideways until he hit 26.
Exactly. TRT was either finagled or needed because they crashed their axis. What are the odds of that many relatively young guys all needing TRT? They should either allow everyone to do AAS or none, IMHO. That's the only way to keep the playing field even. I wondered about Nate Diaz a few times between fights when he was kind of beefed up, but he didn't look like it in the octagon. Maybe he should have come here so he could keep his gains. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bio-Active
I wonder about them all. Seems to me test suspension is fully manipulateable into whatever level you want at any time. Blast and its gone for the test and blast the day of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ
This goes for all sports.
But you can be pulled in for a test at any time I would think.