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    lebron is nothing like jordan and ill tell you why, number 1: cant make clutch free throws/free throws horrible anyways. 2. legron has an ugly shot, a more smooth shot can be more consistant. lebron is a power player and must use his strength, hes nowhere near as athletic or agile as MJ.

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    LeBron may have had a stellar start to his career, but he will not be anywhere close to Jordan w/o the rings. If he stays in Cleveland, it will never happen. Depending on where he signs after he becomes a FA, he could win a few, but not the # that Jordan had.

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    Lebron James isn't even the best player in the NBA right now. Does that make Kobe Bryant better than Jordan as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotaquestions View Post
    look at his stats compared to jordans first five years, there really close except in rings and steals (665-962). and kobes they're not worth mentioning. agreed, the worst thing that james could do would be to go to brooklyn. and the best thing jayz could do is never make another song until he learns how to rhyme
    you also need to take into consideration Lebrons career started straight out of high school...I think he averaged 30 points his 3rd year in NBA...So while Jordan would have been in college Lebron averaged 30 PPG..So those 4 years he could have been in college are going to hurt his overall averages by the end of his career...IE Kobe Bryants first 4 years really bring down his scoring average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYROD View Post
    stats are overrated and can be very missleading sometimes imo. michael jordan is hands down the best basketball player i have ever seen. what stat means the most is how many times did a player take control of a game or hit the winning shot in the post season? i promise no one comes close to jordon. he had the most complete game ever with absolutely no weaknesses at all. there are alot of great playes present and past but jordon is simply on a different level.
    If you trully are a basketball fan, and follow basketball as closely as I think you do, how the hell are you not going to consider putting Kobe Bryant's name into the mix?

    Everyone in the NBA today, even your guys' precious Lebron James, and DWade's, and Chris Paul's are agree that hands down Kobe Bryant is simply the best. And if you want to compare both players at this juncture in their careers, they are almost identical, and I think Kobe has the slight edge.

    Feel free to stir up a friendly argument, you won't win this one.

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    Michael took four average NBA players wearing Bulls jerseys with him on the court at the same time and elevated THEIR games. When their performance lagged, he took over and dominated. He was a complete player, a leader, and GOAT.

    When LeBron starts winning rings with Cleveland, then I'll consider entertaining LeBron-Jordan thoughts. Until that time, LeBron is very good, but he ain't no MJ.

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    Lebron is no MJ and he is no Bird, no Magic, and no Kobe for that matter. He is a hell of a player but just not there yet and may never be. I don't see what the rush is to crown he as the greatest ever.

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    Look at all the guys that were playing with jordan. they were all very good players. lebron doesnt have that kind of team so his stats are gonna be higher. If he goes to brooklyn maybe he can share the spotlight with lil wayne and master p or whatever. thatd be a dream team.

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    Lebron and Vince Carter.....together at last

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    Lebron isn't even the best player in the game right now. If we were holding a draft I could think of 5 players to take ahead of Lebron.

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    1. Kobe
    2. Chris Paul
    3. Dewayne Wade
    4. Tim Duncan
    5. Deron Williams
    6. Dwight Howard
    7. Kevin Garnett

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    the best point made so far is that he is still so young. he's like 22. and you're trying to compare him to maybe the greatest ever? thats ridiculous. same for saying not having the rings like J makes him worse.. this isn't the same league it was back then. who won in jordans time? the bulls and celtics. now its spread out all over the place and there is so much more talent spread across the team.

    i'm not sure how you can say jordan had no good teammates, they were probably some of the best in the league while lebron has... none..?

    i agree that kobe is the best of this era, of current players, and very high up among the greatest of all time. but not the highest up. look how some people before him changed the game and look at kobe. he's just the best at it now, nothing really new to it.

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    If we're having an all time draft and I have first pick, I'm taking Magic Johnson over Jordan, Lebron, and Kobe.

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    What about Shawn Bradley?
    You can never go wrong with Magic but I think Russell, Wilt, or Oscar might also be great picks.

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    i am a huge kobe bryant fan. jordan was amazing in his time and kobe is amazing in this time

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    Kobe still has better days ahead of him and with the roster he has behind him I think he has more rings coming his way. By the time that its all done I think he will be right up there with Jordan.

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    the DWADE spammer is here! lol

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    I'll take the Flash over prince james any day.

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    Nobody ever would argue that Jordan wasn't the best in the game when he was playing. The same is definitely not true for Lebron.

    Enough said. When Lebron is universally accepted as the best in the game then maybe we can have this conversation.

    Better comparison would be Jordan and Magic. Still no comparison really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200byjune View Post
    i am a huge kobe bryant fan. jordan was amazing in his time and kobe is amazing in this time
    kobe got schooled by paul pierce last year.

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    There is no way James is better then Jordan. Jordan set the mark for all players in the NBA with both talent and class.

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    I think people really forget how good jordan was.

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    I think it's hilarious how beloved he is/was when it's common knowledge that he was a total cock

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    Everyone is compared to Jordan.... there is a reason for that. Period.

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    Anyone see that dunk Rondo made last night?

    Reminded me of Jordan.

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    Jordan : 6 World Championships.
    James :

    Case closed.

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    ^^^that's not fair. So if Lebron wins 7 he's better?

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    Jordan has played with the best of all time. Bird, Magic, Barkley, Malone.. and so on.


    Who the hell has James played? Kobe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouPumps View Post
    Jordan was on another lvl, in the early 90's. Today Jordan would be just like a Kobe or a Lebron or a tracy McGrady or countless others. But hey no arguing from me, when Jordan was in his prime he was something special to watch no question.
    Dude, the NBA is ***** now. Jordan was playing during the time when there was such thing as contact. NBA sucks now... you breath on someone and you get fouled.

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    jordan is by far the best of all time.. he could take a game over any time he wanted

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    james might some day get there but not there yet

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    also james is not going to nyc now that the browns traded edeards to the jets after he punched james friend.. i think that's by the browns traded him to ny

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    darko milicic = best of all time

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    cannot compare the two. In terms of skills Jordan has it over lebron. even in terms of athletisism - jordan in his prime was quicker faster and was a quicker jumper. The thing lebron has over jordan is sheer size in combination with being a above average athlete. Lebron weight averages between 240 and 245 pounds. the heaviest jordan played 220.

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    Kobe's better than both

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    The argument right now is if lebron is vs kobe, and that ones too close to call. The true lebron-jordan argument shouldnt even be considered til (and if) lebron starts winning world championships, then we can talk.
    Til then not even close.
    Last edited by Monster87; 10-19-2009 at 07:33 AM.

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    Scottie Pippen made Jordan

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    or was it Will Perdue?

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    Disagree!!

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    Lebron James is a modern day Olden Polynice

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