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    eq/test

    hey guys,i'm no pro athlete by any means, but in a elite group in military....mostly muscular endurance/strenght.
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    5'7" 172lb. 8% body fat
    2mile run time - 12:20min.
    2 minute push-up - 100-110 reps depending on what kind of day
    2 minute sit ups - 95 - 100 reps
    12 mile ruck march w/ 70 pound rucksack - 2 hrs 45 min.
    bench press - 315 1rep
    pull ups - 25 reps

    just finished a eq/test cycle ...have not started pct yet...waiting for long esters to clear. currently using hcg every 3 days leading up to pct.my question is what steps can i take besides a aggresive pct to keep most of my endurance and strenght.
    also any runners and endurance athletes in here.. interested too here what kind of training you do to keep up after long cycle. i have never been a great runner...short legs...lol

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    Dont have much of an answer for that bro other than a great PCT and continued training and dieting.

    But you can post your PCT and ill tell you MO.

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    bump
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    just finished this cycle

    week1-17 300mg test c
    week1-17 400mg eq
    week 15-19 hcg 250iu every 3 days(500ius first 3 shots)
    5 days after last hcg shot clomid 100mg x 7 days
    clomid 50mg for 2 more weeks
    nolva 25mg another week or 2 after clomid
    thinking maybe nolva will be overkill??? what do you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by soldier01 View Post
    my question is what steps can i take besides a aggresive pct to keep most of my endurance and strenght.
    Hmm...anavar ? I don't have much exp with this one or know if it applies in your circumstance, other guys would have to chime in on that.

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    finally

    i can post on this forum. registered a week ago, just got the link tdy. yeahhh. i am military and wonderin on a cycle of t-bol or var. 6'1 200LB bout 8% 19years old. WANT to increase my apft stats and NEED a cycle that would help me improve my overall endurance and fitness. was thinkin of var but i read that tbol would be better. what do u guys think considering my situation? hey soldier01 how can we get in contact with each other cuz u are more familiar to my situation.

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    btw soldier01 great apft stats, i can only knock u on ur run cuz last week i got 11:47 although i need to improve the rest.

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    that run time needs to go down if you want to be special forces or recon. you need to average 6min so you can get an 18min 3 mile run
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadet009 View Post
    btw soldier01 great apft stats, i can only knock u on ur run cuz last week i got 11:47 although i need to improve the rest.
    looks good, about the same run time i had 5 years ago when i went through SFAS selection.Why type of weight training are you doing?

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    workout

    I dont have a clearly defined workout regiment however, to maximize strength and endurance I follow a high rep and high intensity workout. 2 body parts per day with 4-5 sets of 15-20 in each sets. Prior to any workout, I do one set max of pull-ups, push-ups, flutter kicks and dips. I weight train Monday through Friday, weekends off. I run at least two times a day, 6AM with the battalion and 5PM right class. I am a college student so my diet kind of sucks! I lack the discipline to follow the 5-6 meals a day!

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    During the summer time, i just had a job and worked out every day. I went from 185LB at the start of the summer to 215LB on nothing but no-xplode, whey protein and a high carb & calorie diet. Wasnt a smart idea because although I gained plenty of muscle mass, I also gained some fat. By mid-September, i managed to drop 15-20LB.

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    will using tbol or var or even a test affect my endurance in terms of running. I do have a somewhat dissent run time (11:47/2miles), when i went to AASLT school, did pretty good on the 12mile ruck. I need to improve my overall strength (specifically push-ups & sit-ups) and fitness. I want to use var to maintain throughout the semesters and during summer training. I have read several cycles with most of them for weight gain or fat-loss. I am kind of in the middle. Any thoughts?

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    Well if you run in sub 12 min 2mile i would not worry about hurting your endurance much...I never used t- bol so don't know much about it.Var and test would be good, but you don't wanna alot of water weight....50mg ed var with 300 test e a week will do just fine for your goals.

    1- 6 var 50mg ed
    1-12 test e 300mg week
    make sure you have a solid PCT lined up or its a waste
    To increase strength you need to do one week heavy lifting for all bodyparts 4-6 rep range....then next week lift for reps.Save push up ..flutter kicks and sit ups for after your weight training.

    For ruck marching you need increase your load over time.I can do 2hr 15min 12 mile with a AASLT load. Need to work up to at least 50lbs. not counting water in under 3 hrs.and try not to run...only gonna injure yourself...if behind on time you can shuffle down hills but that should be all.

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    lol ..damn man i just seen you are 19...man you don;t need juice...really..just adjust your training and you will max out other 2 events easily....and if you are 8% you should not be having anyproblems...save the aas for later down the road.

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    can easily max my push-ups and run but i really suck at sit-ups. I don't know what it is if it is my height (6'2), or lack of core. Need more core exercises i guess!

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    ok...are you reaching fatigue before you hit your max? or are you running out of time?...if reaching fatigue ..every morning you need to do at least 10 reps over your required max, don't worry about time too much...just work on getting your muscles to do the amount of work.In afternoon everyother day do them at gym AFTER your work out on a decline bench and a 10lb. weight.If your running out of time(this will help fatigue also) you need to practice doing reps without relaxing stomach muscles.remember only the bottom of your shoulder blades need to touch ground....so your muscles will remain contracted...as soon as shoulder blade hits ground explode back up...there will be no rest at all...This form will give you plenty of time,but will wear you the **** out if your not conditioned...it will also saves your hip flex for the 2 mile run.

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    In a few years if you get your mind set on joining the special operations community,you can think about AAS.Getting the dose right is the key.You don't wanna take a BB's dose.Will give you to much water weight.Belive me you will have enough weight loaded down in that big green tick on your back. extra unneeded weight will also decrease your vo2max and threshold.

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    thanks for the info

    I do not run out of time, however, I think I have a bad form. For every rep my upper back and hands touch the ground and I contract my ab muscles all the way to the top. I get around 71-73 on every PFT but I need at least 78 to max my PFT. I will research a workout and diet plan from the forum to be ready by the next PFT on Nov21. bouncing on the shoulder blades really wears me out but tough luck, if it gets me over 80 sit-ups then I better start practicing!

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    as far as SF, I need to branch IN first before thinking about it. **** ROTC branching process. Great opportunities in SF though and I am looking forward to the challenge!
    Last edited by cadet009; 10-28-2008 at 07:39 PM.

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    to branch inf. focus on your Troop leading procedures, physical fitness, map reading ...and others but those are very important. learn how to apply TLP's to every day situations...and tactics...read and study battle drills,but will need field time to fully understand them, also effective map reading will help you apply battle drills.Once you get into a rifle platoon there will be a high speed E-7 waiting on you...to teach you everything you REALLY need to know about being a Light fighter leading from the front.

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