Hey everyone i just have a question that i think has a answer more than what I think. Well right now i'm in my bulkin stage, trying to get up to 180lb and gain some huge time musle mass while i'm up there. now my question is, i wen to a competition and i saw some pritty ripped, i mean shredded. LIke paper thin skin. Can anyone please tell me what is the secret to get like that. I mean is ECA, and WINNI all there is to it with a nice diet? THere has to be a routine that everyone follows to get that ripped to compete. Please help. If it's a long article or somthing you can email it to [email protected] if not please respond. thanks