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    Eight days out, Dumped the Lasix for Aldactone

    Im 8 days away from my first show, I will be competeing in the Novice, Masters and the Light heavy weight. My diet consists of mostly sushi, egg whites, protein powder and flame broiled chicken breasts. My calories are about 1500, my carbs are between 130 and 100 and take in about 200-250 grams of protein. Doing cardo 2 times or once a day30 minutes. Work out with weights 5-6 days all high reps 20+ for each body part. Im Taking 100mg of Anavar, .25mg of adex and 100mg of aldactone. Can anyone please let me know if they would change anything.
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    your still holding some water in the lower abs...you need to lose that in the next few days... you look good man. you have your posing & routine down pat??

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    i don't wanna sound like a d!ck but imo you look no where near ready to be honost. whats your BF%? esp since you've been taking lasix and aldactone allready.

    so how long have you been dieting? cause you look like your still around 8-9% to be honost, wich is good but def not stage good. and in 8 days you can't change much anymore.

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    Bro Rodge is correct. And do not take it in a bad way, believe me he doesnt mean it that way. Here is My opinion. I would do this if I was you. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday I would do Zero carbs.. YES Zero carbs. do cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach for 1 hour 10 - 12 incline on the treadmill 2.5 to 3.0 speed. I would then do the same at night and I would do cardio all the way up til thursday night. I would start the cardio that way tonight. why are you taking duiretic so early? also go to the stickys at the top of this forum and click on posing video, it will help you to improve your posing. Hope that help.

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    I would LOWER that aldactone dose of 100mg per day!!! you dont want to start out full-force on th diuretics or you will absolutely not be able to carb up properly....CD

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    Mr. Mention nailed it, I was going to recommend def cut out the carbs and up the cardio at least 2-3x of what your doing now. You look good right now dont get me wrong, but we're going for the win here man!

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    WOW. Ok I hear that Im still holding water in my lower abs, will cardo burn water? I thought cardo burns fat? And if I am holding this water why not take 100mg of aldactone for 8 days to lose it. My body fat was just measured (Very Accurately) and it came up 5.5% Im doing cardo everyday sometimes twice a day. Dont get me wrong. Im sure you guys know tons more then I do Im just asking these question. Lastly, im 43 years old and doing the Masters and the novice, I've seen the July winners and from what I saw i would have placed 2nd in the masters and 3rd or 4th in the Novice. My girlfriend is aslo doing the show, she will absolutly win the A class and for sure place in the over all. This is what her posing coach is telling her and she has won everything in Arizona and most of L.A. Im simply doing this with her and not competeing again.

    PS is there any benefit to sitting in the sauna and sweating out some of this water.

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    Bro I laid it out for you, its up to you now to follow it. As for water, why drop water now to only drink more tomorrow. you only need to drop water actually 1 to 2 days out of a competition 90% of competitors drop water the evening before their competition. Now listen, if you are holding excessive water, then you are not drinking enough water for your body to release water, drink more water. Eat asparagus with your protein, it helps to drop excessive water.
    One more thing, you said your bodyfat was measured at 5.5% accurately, if it wasnt measured hydrostatic then its not accurate. Hydrostatic is underwater weighing which is 100% accutate.

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    Mr. Mention Thank you, i did not know that about the water. I was told by my Trainer, who also is very knowledgable in fact he is the husband of the above mentioned female. He has won Mr. Arizona and many other shows not to despute what you said but why would he recomend 8 days of aldactone? this guy really knows his stuff.Once again Im not desputing your knowledge just would like to figure out whats up. So if I did start the Diuretic 2 days before what would you recomend as a good dosage. Would you suggest a suana to lose water along side the cardo and everything else. The bodyfat was tested with electronic calipers. Oh by the way I did the 10 - 12 incline on the treadmill 2.5 to 3.0 speed. all I can say is WOW. I normally run for 30 minutes outside or do the stairmaster. Nice change of pace. I will follow all of your advice. The zero carbs will be very hard.

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    One last thing... Sorry. I was told by someone to drink distilled water the last week, Why?

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    The problem is you're asking to many people for advice. Everyone will have a different approach or will tell you something different and you'll end up all over the place getting no where. Who cares why the guy told you to take the aldactone. It was bad advice. MrMen1on gave you solid advice. I would follow it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    The problem is you're asking to many people for advice. Everyone will have a different approach or will tell you something different and you'll end up all over the place getting no where. Who cares why the guy told you to take the aldactone. It was bad advice. MrMen1on gave you solid advice. I would follow it.
    I second that. I wouldn't want to be taking any diuretics 8 days out form a show, that's too long IMO I try to avoid diuretics at all costs if I can.

    Oh, and keep drinking TONS of water, this will suppress your body's own natural anti-diuretic hormone causing your body to get rid of more water, I mean POUND WATER!! THen cut it out the night b4 the show and your body will not respond for at least 24-36 hours after cutting your water, therefore, your body will be getting rid of its own water naturally, and drying you out. If you do a really good job of this, then a diuretic won't doing anything extra and you wont need it.

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    I will follow MrMen1ion advice. One last question I was told by someone to drink distilled water the last week, Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM2500
    I will follow MrMen1ion advice. One last question I was told by someone to drink distilled water the last week, Why?
    B/c some believe it can help remove sodium from the body, but IMO it wont make much of any difference, just use bottles drinking water (gallon jugs). Distilled can **** with your electrolytes.

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    OK.. I got 7 100mg tabs of aldactone. Could someone please give me a good dosage and schedule for this Diuretic, and also a schedule and dosage amount of water intake for the next 7 days. My show is this Saturday. I'd like to also say that I did not mean to come accross as a "know it all" Im not at all. I was just following the advice of a person that REALLY appears to know what he's talking about. I really do appreciate all the advice and even the strong remarks by RODGE. Thanks again.

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    I Did! and 1/2 the people on this borad say "yes" 100mg ED aldactone for 7 days is fine and the other say "Bad Idea". There are always more then 1 way to get to the same point with the same results. This guy that told me how to dose aldactone for 7 days beleives that a gradual loss over a week does'ent give you the flat or deflated look that some get by doing it 1 or two days out. Just personal preference. I then just asked the board to send me an alternate dose/schedule since mine, by some, are consider wrong.

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    follow mrMent1on's advice on the carbs and cardio,although i doubt if you have enough time for getting really ready BUT any improvement is well taken. def drink lots of water or what i do is green tea as its mildly diuretic. make sure that there are no dairies in your diet, keep protein from lean meat,chicken and white fish(this one is best imo). stop drinking the evening before the show. start aldactone 2 days infront, i only used 50mg ed(2 days and the day before). cut out all salt/sodium asap(thats why some use distilled water). the evening before the show,when i already stopped my water intake for a couple of hrs, right before bed, i drink 1 glas of alcohol. this helps me sleep while as you prob be nervous and the alcohol also has a diuretic effect. a half hour before i step on stage i take some hard boiled eggs with salt wich helps to get the last bit of fluid from under my skin into my stomach.

    just some tips,

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM2500
    I Did! and 1/2 the people on this borad say "yes" 100mg ED aldactone for 7 days is fine and the other say "Bad Idea". There are always more then 1 way to get to the same point with the same results. This guy that told me how to dose aldactone for 7 days beleives that a gradual loss over a week does'ent give you the flat or deflated look that some get by doing it 1 or two days out. Just personal preference. I then just asked the board to send me an alternate dose/schedule since mine, by some, are consider wrong.
    Disagree strongly...there is right way and a wrong way, there is also halfass way which is the way when you do not know right or wrong...100mg of aldactone over 7 days can make you look soft as aldactone is not only a diuretic but also anti-androgen...in any case the best thing to do is pick one persons advice and go with it, if it doesn't work then you use a different approach next time, and if it works great...good luck in any case Bro...Ohhhh and that's what i would do, drink as much water as i can untill thursday (1-2 gallons) friday around 1 gallon untill 18-20 hours before the show, then aldactone i would go Monday-25mg, Tuesday-50mg, wednesday-50mg, thursday-75gm, Friday-100mg and saturday 25mg first thing in the morning, that's it...good luck...XXL

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