Serious Question for First Cycle + Critique

[H20Crazy]

Wassup Bro's,
Been a while since i posted....been soaking up all i can like a sponge. Anyways, I'm planning on starting my first cycle soon. MY QUESTION IS: I have my first comp. coming up in June. Would taking the following as my first cycle be a good or bad idea? Should i wait until after the contest to run gear? Here is my cycle. Also, please consider my stats.

Cycle (pretty basic newbie cycle)
Week 1-12 Testosterone Enthanate 500 mg/week
Week 1-17 Nolvadex 10mg/a day
Week 14-17 Clomid Day One 150, Day 2 100, Rest of PCT at 50 a day



Stats
Lifting: On and off for 8 years. Committed for last 2 1/2 years
Height: 5'9
Weight: 184 lbs (Gained 37 lbs in 2 1/2 years)
BF: 6.4 %

Measurements:
Arms: 17"
Thighs: 23 1/2"
Calves: 15 1/2"
Neck: 16 1/2"

I'm pretty shredded, hence, I feel that this cycle would be ok to run for pre-contest. Here are 2 pics of me just so you can get an idea of what i look like. I have attached them.

IS THIS CYCLE OK FOR PRE-CONTEST (CONSIDERING MY BODY TYPE)??

THANKS BRO'S!!

[The_Canibal]

it's ok for a bulker....but i generally get bloated from the TE..some AI would come in handy........i would use different compounds(prop,tren,winny)

good luck

[Johny-too-small]

Also, drop the nolva until your pct. Test E will add some bloat but can be headed off with Letro or L-Dex. All being said, with good diet and cardio you can stay very ripped on this cycle and in later weeks the Test E will lean you out even more.

Nice pics! Youre gonna love it.

[Beefkake31]

What about kickstarting the cycle for weeks 1-4 with d-bol, that's something you can consider, but not necessary for first cycle.

[briansauras]

I wouldnt consider a cycle using only test enth as a pre-contest cycle.

you might want to look into these compounds. test prop, with masteron or winstrol, and tren.

[Haro3]

I wouldnt consider a cycle using only test enth as a pre-contest cycle.

you might want to look into these compounds. test prop, with masteron or winstrol, and tren.

agreed. test e just has bloat and unwanted characteristics witha show coming up. u can stay lean etc but as a rule prop, tren, winny, mast, are precontest drugs.

i think prop mast winny would be alright for a first cycle going up to the contest.

[briansauras]

agreed. test e just has bloat and unwanted characteristics witha show coming up. u can stay lean etc but as a rule prop, tren, winny, mast, are precontest drugs.

i think prop mast winny would be alright for a first cycle going up to the contest.

Ive never used 2 DHT's in the same cycle. So I dont really know if you benefit more but I love winstrol @ 150-200mg ED

[H20Crazy]

yeah that's my main concern. Since it is my first cycle, I'm not to big on stacking different components. From all the research i've done, Test E is the general rule of thumb for 1st cycle. I am going to do the test-e , but i'm just wondering about how i will look for contest. Should i Start in early January? This way i'll come off mid-May and i can use that month before contest to lose the Test-E water weight.

Also remember, my bf is extremely low (6.4 %) so i'm not too worrying about getting that "bulky" look

[GHO5T]

Wassup Bro's,
Been a while since i posted....been soaking up all i can like a sponge. Anyways, I'm planning on starting my first cycle soon. MY QUESTION IS: I have my first comp. coming up in June. Would taking the following as my first cycle be a good or bad idea? Should i wait until after the contest to run gear? Here is my cycle. Also, please consider my stats.

Cycle (pretty basic newbie cycle)
Week 1-12 Testosterone Enthanate 500 mg/week
Week 1-17 Nolvadex 10mg/a day
Week 14-17 Clomid Day One 150, Day 2 100, Rest of PCT at 50 a day



Stats
Lifting: On and off for 8 years. Committed for last 2 1/2 years
Height: 5'9
Weight: 184 lbs (Gained 37 lbs in 2 1/2 years)
BF: 6.4 %

Measurements:
Arms: 17"
Thighs: 23 1/2"
Calves: 15 1/2"
Neck: 16 1/2"

I'm pretty shredded, hence, I feel that this cycle would be ok to run for pre-contest. Here are 2 pics of me just so you can get an idea of what i look like. I have attached them.

IS THIS CYCLE OK FOR PRE-CONTEST (CONSIDERING MY BODY TYPE)??

THANKS BRO'S!!

cycle looks good bro, i agree with starting in january and going to march you then would have april for pct (also loose any water/bloat you have remaining from the test e) then the contest is in june so you would be good.

with a spot on diet and a good training regime you will like the results in the end. (diet will be the determining factor in how much you want to bulk)

*the bros who are advising usage (prop,tren,masteron.winni) of different combinations of aas need to consider that its the bros first cycle and there is no need for so many aas as IMO the bro should keep it simple for a first

with all that said best of luck to you bro

[briansauras]

yeah that's my main concern. Since it is my first cycle, I'm not to big on stacking different components. From all the research i've done, Test E is the general rule of thumb for 1st cycle. I am going to do the test-e , but i'm just wondering about how i will look for contest. Should i Start in early January? This way i'll come off mid-May and i can use that month before contest to lose the Test-E water weight.

Also remember, my bf is extremely low (6.4 %) so i'm not too worrying about getting that "bulky" look

The general "rule" is to use a single estered test. Since many people arent crazy about jumping into ED/EOD injections test E or C is suggested since you only need to inj every 3.5 days.

If you have no problem with inj freq I would diff consider 75mg of test prop ED for 10wks. Now if you wanted you could also throw in an oral if you would like. I would suggest 50-100mg of winstrol ED from wk5-pct. I think those 2 comb's suit your goals more.

I would also keep letro on hand incase of gyno sides. The reason I say on hand, is so that you can determine how your body responds to test. ei if you are gyno prone to test or not. This will play a major roll in your cycle planning down the road. SInce winny is DHT it does not convert to estrogen the same as test. Save the nolva for PCT.

[H20Crazy]

Thank you very much... i appreciate the input....Thanks to all so far who have responded to my post. I have put in the time in the weight room and in the forum. Therefore, all your replies are greatly appreciated...been very helpful. Keep 'em comin'

[GHO5T]

The general "rule" is to use a single estered test. Since many people arent crazy about jumping into ED/EOD injections test E or C is suggested since you only need to inj every 3.5 days.

If you have no problem with inj freq I would diff consider 75mg of test prop ED for 10wks. Now if you wanted you could also throw in an oral if you would like. I would suggest 50-100mg of winstrol ED from wk5-pct. I think those 2 comb's suit your goals more.

I would also keep letro on hand incase of gyno sides. The reason I say on hand, is so that you can determine how your body responds to test. ei if you are gyno prone to test or not. This will play a major roll in your cycle planning down the road. SInce winny is DHT it does not convert to estrogen the same as test. Save the nolva for PCT.

thats a good suggestion, i would have to agree (if you dont mind ed injects) to go with prop over test e, reason being you will hold less water with prop and less bloat as well and the winni at the end will harden you up a bit more

[H20Crazy]

thats a good suggestion, i would have to agree (if you dont mind ed injects) to go with prop over test e, reason being you will hold less water with prop and less bloat as well and the winni at the end will harden you up a bit more

And this would be o.k. for first time user? I was just trying to keep it as simple as possible since it is my 1st cycle.

[H20Crazy]

bump

[Beefkake31]

And this would be o.k. for first time user? I was just trying to keep it as simple as possible since it is my 1st cycle.

As long as you don't mind frequent shots then prop would be just fine IMO.

[Carlos_E]

What date in June is your contest? Are you planning on doing only 1 cycle before the contest? Or do you want to do a bulk cycle, come off then do a cut cycle for contest prep?

[HighandWide]

Damn Carlos your jacked... I wish I could get some of that vascularity

[Carlos_E]

Damn Carlos your jacked... I wish I could get some of that vascularity

Thanks man.

[spittin' 'n cussin']

*the bros who are advising usage (prop,tren,masteron.winni) of different combinations of aas need to consider that its the bros first cycle and there is no need for so many aas as IMO the bro should keep it simple for a first

i agree. i remember back in the day no one would consider advising a first timer to get close to anything but test and/or deca. kids these days...

[H20Crazy]

What date in June is your contest? Are you planning on doing only 1 cycle before the contest? Or do you want to do a bulk cycle, come off then do a cut cycle for contest prep?

No Carlos, I'm only planning on this one cycle....I wanna do it the right way and from what i've read..... Time on cycle = Time off cycle.
My plan was to start in January, that way my pct would end in may and i'd have a month to lose whatever water i retained from the test.
Given my physique right now, I think my body would be just as lean after the test cycle...might take it up to 8 or 9%bf or around there.

SO whatcha think??

[Carlos_E]

No Carlos, I'm only planning on this one cycle....I wanna do it the right way and from what i've read..... Time on cycle = Time off cycle.
My plan was to start in January, that way my pct would end in may and i'd have a month to lose whatever water i retained from the test.
Given my physique right now, I think my body would be just as lean after the test cycle...might take it up to 8 or 9%bf or around there.

SO whatcha think??

I think you should keep bulking naturally and run a contest prep cut cycle as your first cycle. You are going to lose a lot of muscle on an extreme diet to get into contest shape. Guys some times lose too much with a cut cycle let alone cutting naturally.

[Carlos_E]

H20Crazy, I'm going to move your thread to the competition section to get more responses.

[H20Crazy]

H20Crazy, I'm going to move your thread to the competition section to get more responses.

Thanks Carlos appreciate it sincerely, bro.

[std4]

no test no cycle is bs. i know i will be torn apart for this.i suggest you replace the test by primo. 300-400mg/week for 10-12 weeks. there will be no bloat. you will gain some quality mass, while staying at low body fat- exactly what you need.