Help with cutting workout

[JohnnyStardust]

Hey guys, I've been reading posts around here for a while but this is my first time posting one myself. Anyway, I've been working out for a couple years out kind of off and on, but I'm pretty serious about it again at this time. I'm pretty confident with my size and strength but I'd like my body fat to be lower so I've decided to try out the cutting diet from the cutting sticky up top.
I pretty much identically matched the sample diet that he posted, because it's for a 200 person person with 15% body fat, and I'm 6'1 and 1/2 200 and roughly 15% body fat.
Anyway I was just wondering if anyone could maybe help me out with it, I read through the entire document and understood it for the most part, but the sample diet itself is kind of confusing to me. So could someone help me turn it into something I could actually follow?

Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein

Workout

Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition

Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

Meal 6:
Shake with Flax

Mainly I just don't know what to have when he mentions lean protein and how much of it i need, and I don't know what to have for the PWO Nutrition. I know it might be kind of a hassle, but if anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

[Elliot]

Hey guys, I've been reading posts around here for a while but this is my first time posting one myself. Anyway, I've been working out for a couple years out kind of off and on, but I'm pretty serious about it again at this time. I'm pretty confident with my size and strength but I'd like my body fat to be lower so I've decided to try out the cutting diet from the cutting sticky up top.
I pretty much identically matched the sample diet that he posted, because it's for a 200 person person with 15% body fat, and I'm 6'1 and 1/2 200 and roughly 15% body fat.
Anyway I was just wondering if anyone could maybe help me out with it, I read through the entire document and understood it for the most part, but the sample diet itself is kind of confusing to me. So could someone help me turn it into something I could actually follow?

Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein

Workout

Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition

Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

Meal 6:
Shake with Flax

Mainly I just don't know what to have when he mentions lean protein and how much of it i need, and I don't know what to have for the PWO Nutrition. I know it might be kind of a hassle, but if anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

diet seems fine

lean protein = lean meat(chicken, beef, pork, turkey, etc) about 40-45g per sitting..

PWO Nutrition = Post WorkOut Shake with dextrose and protein.. 2 to 1 ratio (ie 50g of dex 25g of protein) this has to be liquid.. and it would aso be a good idea to take a r-ala and biotin with it..

also if your doing cardio, which you should be doing, scrap the oatmeal and keep it fat/protein...

[slizzut]

if you are cutting.. lose the oatmeal in meal#1 and add an EFA, m2 is fine, meal 3 needs an EFA, pwo, ppwo are fine, m6 is fine.

[JohnnyStardust]

what veggies would you guys recommend?

[Elliot]

dark green leaf.. avoid carrots and peas.. and corn..

[slizzut]

spinach, brocolli, asparagus

[ChefJ]

green beans are good the fiberous vegetable carbs slide right through untouched by the body which is why the adkins people don't count them as "net" carbs

[Elliot]

green beans are good the fiberous vegetable carbs slide right through untouched by the body which is why the adkins people don't count them as "net" carbs

beans are 1/3 fiber.. which is still 2/3 other carbs.. i dont get the logic behind your statement..

[ChefJ]

beans are 1/3 fiber.. which is still 2/3 other carbs.. i dont get the logic behind your statement..

Actualy green beans are 1/2 fiber based carbs and only like 25 calories per 2/3 cup serving with no fat. That means you could fill up on beans and still consume less than 10 net grams of carbs. I am a chef and also a certified nutritionist. I base my life and profession on knowing these facts for diabetics and patients of the like.

[Elliot]

Actualy green beans are 1/2 fiber based carbs and only like 25 calories per 2/3 cup serving with no fat. That means you could fill up on beans and still consume less than 10 net grams of carbs. I am a chef and also a certified nutritionist. I base my life and profession on knowing these facts for diabetics and patients of the like.

**** i guess goya lied to me once more.. we should sue..


Goya Small Red Beans 1 cup 180cals 1g fat 36g carbs 14g protein..
12 of the 36 are fiber..

swole is going to be taking his B.A.R. Soon so we got a leagal team.. lets roll..

btw the values are stright off the can.. and i can take a pic if you like..

[ChefJ]

**** i guess goya lied to me once more.. we should sue..


Goya Small Red Beans 1 cup 180cals 1g fat 36g carbs 14g protein..
12 of the 36 are fiber..

swole is going to be taking his B.A.R. Soon so we got a leagal team.. lets roll..

btw the values are stright off the can.. and i can take a pic if you like..

green beans not red beans here is a dietary guidline sample from freshlike:
Total fat 0
cholesterol 0 "its a plant it never had any to begin with"
sodium 10mgs "still counted as 0% because it is a miniscule amount"
total carbs 4g
dietary fiber 2g " or 50% or 1/2 of 4"
sugars 2g " or 50% or the other half of the 4"
protein 1g
Vitamin A 2%
Vitamin C 2%
calcium 2%
iron 2%
INGRIEDIENTS: GREEN BEANS "not red beans thats another lesson"

[bad_man]

Actualy green beans are 1/2 fiber based carbs and only like 25 calories per 2/3 cup serving with no fat. That means you could fill up on beans and still consume less than 10 net grams of carbs. I am a chef and also a certified nutritionist. I base my life and profession on knowing these facts for diabetics and patients of the like.

You're not Chef Jay, he guy that makes those protein bars, are you?

[JohnnyStardust]

also in the cutting sticky I noticed it saying something about not eating/drinking dairy products, so are the "shakes" i take just supposed to be taken with water?

[slizzut]

also in the cutting sticky I noticed it saying something about not eating/drinking dairy products, so are the "shakes" i take just supposed to be taken with water?

Exactly. Dairy makes u look and feel bloated along with other thigns as well.

[ChefJ]

nope just a lowly chef with the first name of J

[bad_man]

Chef Jay??

[brian11]

why is that picture crooked? dammit bad man you cant do anything right!!!

-B-

[Elliot]

never tasted green beans.. im a pick some up today, but if they dont taste good ::reises fist in air::

[ChefJ]

never tasted green beans.. im a pick some up today, but if they dont taste good ::reises fist in air::

Just season them with some potassium chloride, and garlic add some white wine if you would like and finish it with some benecol that way you get good fats garlic and fiber. No protein but it is a good side to some poached salmon

[Elliot]

Just season them with some potassium chloride, and garlic add some white wine if you would like and finish it with some benecol that way you get good fats garlic and fiber. No protein but it is a good side to some poached salmon

will try tonight thanks

[doby48]

Just season them with some potassium chloride, and garlic add some white wine if you would like and finish it with some benecol that way you get good fats garlic and fiber. No protein but it is a good side to some poached salmon

Or you could do the lazy method like me and just boil them in water and add pepper to them... Also IMHO the canned ones are gross and mushy, get fresh or at least frozen if you can't get fresh.

[Elliot]

Or you could do the lazy method like me and just boil them in water and add pepper to them... Also IMHO the canned ones are gross and mushy, get fresh or at least frozen if you can't get fresh.

can -> open -> measure -> pot = yummy

[doby48]

i hate canned veggies too mushy and have a weird taste to them

[pspcs83]

sauteing any green vegetable in a little bit of olive oil and real garlic always tastes bangin

[ChefJ]

you are right but you still need to blanch them before you saute' unless you like them very crunchy.

[slizzut]

Thanks a lot for your help, I was expecting to get chewed out or something. Anyway, just wondering when you say 40-45 g per sitting, are you talking about grams of total weight, or of protein? Thanks

Edit: Also, what exactly is dextrose and where could I buy it at, I couldn't find it over @ AllSportsNutrition.com.

40-45 grams of protein.

www.kentnutrition.com has dextrose
www.thebetterhealthstore.com has dextrose


its a simple sugar, used to spike your insulin levels to bring the protein into the muscles faster

[OSTIE]

Thanks a lot for your help, I was expecting to get chewed out or something. Anyway, just wondering when you say 40-45 g per sitting, are you talking about grams of total weight, or of protein? Thanks

Edit: Also, what exactly is dextrose and where could I buy it at, I couldn't find it over @ AllSportsNutrition.com.

Are you the originator of this thread, with different member names???

[Elliot]

Thanks a lot for your help, I was expecting to get chewed out or something. Anyway, just wondering when you say 40-45 g per sitting, are you talking about grams of total weight, or of protein? Thanks

Edit: Also, what exactly is dextrose and where could I buy it at, I couldn't find it over @ AllSportsNutrition.com.

i was in a happy mood this morning.. for reasons best left unknown..