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    need help please!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just want some advise on this diet I’m planning.
    Current stats:
    5’8”
    Not sure but around 13-14% bf
    (I can see my top two sets of abs, just a lil soggy in the belly and love handles)
    180 lbs
    4 yrs training
    Work out 4 times a wk
    Cardio in the am 20 minutes 4-x week (hitt style)
    Done 4 cycles with good results
    Started 5th cycle Monday
    Current Cycle:
    QV deca 300 weeks 1-10 @ 300mg week
    QV cyp 200 weeks 1-10 @ 200mg week
    Thinking about adding fina in at week 5-12 @ 75mg e.o.d
    Supps as follows:
    Multi vitamin
    Biotest hot rox
    L-glutamine
    Animal stak prohormone stack
    Possibly some clen (if I can get my paws on it)
    Also thinking about r-ala in the supplementation
    Don’t really know the dosage I can take for r-ala though any help on this would be great

    this is my planned diet:
    values are at the end it winds up being
    50% protien
    30%carb
    20%fat

    Meal 1 7:00 am- 3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs
    1 whole-wheat bagel
    2 scoops protein
    2 tbsp natural peanut butter

    Meal 2 9:00 am- 1 serving Myoplex

    Meal 3 12:00- 8 oz. Chicken breast
    ½ cup rice
    1-cup broccoli
    1 Jell-O cup sugar free

    Meal 4 2:00 pm- 1 protein bar
    3 scoops protein

    Meal 5 4:30 pm post workout - 1 serving Myoplex+2 scoops protein

    Meal 6 7:00 pm- 10 oz lean beef
    2 cups broccoli

    Meal 7 10:00 pm -2 scoops protein

    Total calories: 3500
    Fat: 108 g
    Sat: 38g
    Poly: 18g
    Mono: 37g
    Carbs: 204g
    Fiber: 34g
    Protien: 450g

    Any advice would be appreciated. I’m looking to shed some fat and preserve what mass I have. I am not looking to get huge on this cycle maybe add 10-15 lbs if that. If I gain 5 lbs of lean muscle and nothing else I will be happy. Another member on some board told me to diet down to single digit body fat before even touching anabolics. Tried that last year and wound up as a 165 lb skinny fuck. That ain't gonna happen again. once again thanks for any help in advance.

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    It looks like your on a bulking cycle so why are you taking Hot Rox? and if your bulking you need more carbs, a 45/45/10 or even a 50/40/10 would work. I would also cut out the myoplex and protien bars, that not a meal for me or anyone on as. You do have your protien high enough, but you need to cut the shakes and bars out and get it from natural sources.

    Then make sure your getting 500+ cals a meal. If you want to keep it at 3500 a day, thats seven meals with 500 cals. It doesnt really look like your getting that much on what you listed...I may be wrong but i am consumeing 4000 a day-- i eat your whole day before noon.

    what do you eat pre/post workout? Add some oat meal and brown rice through out the day, and ditch the bagel.

    Just some things to get your started thinking about...Check out my diet, and some others in this forum...Mine is listed under AS bulking diet, it will help you see what you need to consume.
    Last edited by ColdStone; 06-30-2003 at 12:17 PM.

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    Oh, and EAT!!!!! i promise you that you can eat way more than that, and if its clean enough youll trim some of the fat. Worry about cutting after you pack on the slabs of muscle.

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    Sounds to me like you want to shed as much fat and retain as much muscle, maybe even put some on. Well not my first pick of AS to do this with but it can work. Here's my .02 on your diet.


    Quote Originally Posted by ctguy
    Meal 1 7:00 am- 3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs
    1 whole-wheat bagel
    2 scoops protein
    2 tbsp natural peanut butter


    I'd go 8 egg whites w/ 1 yolk
    1/2 cup oats (pephaps 1 cup) w/ 1 spoonfull of natty pb mixed in
    1 scoop of protein if you must
    ditch the bagel

    Meal 2 9:00 am- 1 serving Myoplex

    Get some real food here, maybe a can of tuna and a half of an apple at least

    Meal 3 12:00- 8 oz. Chicken breast
    ½ cup rice
    1-cup broccoli
    1 Jell-O cup sugar free


    Looks good
    Meal 4 2:00 pm- 1 protein bar
    3 scoops protein


    Again real food, turkey breast tossed with salad greens w/ oil/ vinegar dressing
    other half of apple

    Meal 5 4:30 pm post workout - 1 serving Myoplex+2 scoops protein


    ok I think


    Meal 6 7:00 pm- 10 oz lean beef
    2 cups broccoli

    I'd use chicken here and save the lean beef for an earlier meal or the next meal


    Meal 7 10:00 pm -2 scoops protein

    Use the lean red meat here along with some fiborous green veggie


    Ad in a protein shake before bed.

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    Hey i'm not trying to be a dick, so i apologize if i come off as a dick.

    But wtf, 180 at 14% BF and you're on your 5th cycle? What the heck were you then before your first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboudian
    Hey i'm not trying to be a dick, so i apologize if i come off as a dick.

    But wtf, 180 at 14% BF and you're on your 5th cycle? What the heck were you then before your first cycle?
    I'm sorry but I can't hold it in...... good catch saboudian, I never caught that.

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    I really think you need to rethink your diet...Since your on a bulking AS, you need to bulk-not cut. From the gains you made in your last cycle's it realy sounds like your diet was terrible, and when you were coming off you didnt do it right and you last alot of gains? Am i on the right track????

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