Need feedback on clean bulking diet

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06-02-2005, 12:06 AM
locutus

Need feedback on clean bulking diet

Ok, I read the "Unofficial how to bulk" sticky and some of it doesn’t make sense. For instance "meal two" shows "lean ground beef" and "Veggies" and it comes up with a specific amount of protein and carbs. How much beef is that taking into consideration? There is more than once reference to an item with no actual amount posted. I am going to be doing a cycle of Test e/deca/dbol(wk 1-4) starting on Saturday. I am trying to build mass cleanly. I have tried to use that sticky as a guide and build on it from there as mentioned in that post. I am 40yrs, 5'4", 15 bf, 155lbs. What do you think of this diet. Please be honest as I still have time to make changes before Saturday. To me it doesnt seem like im eating enough, but i know i need to get 3500 calories to add 25 lbs of muscle during my cycle:

Meal 1: 7:00am
8 Egg Whites (17cal each, 0fat each, 0carb each, 4protien each), Total 136/0/0/32
1 Scoop Of Whey Protein (120cal,0fat,4carb,22protien), Total 120/0/4/22
2 4oz(1/2 cup) oatmeal (150cal each, 3gfat each, 27g carbs each,5gr protein each) Total 300/6/54/10
Total for meal: 556 cal / 6 fat/ 58carbs/64 protien

Meal 2: 9:00am
2 scoops of whey protein 240 cal, 3g fat, 8 carbs, 44 protien 240/3/8/44
7 Grain bagel with egg and cheese from eintsien: 480 cal, 20 fat, 31 carbs, 45g protein 480/20/31/45
Total for meal: 720 cal/23 fat/39 carbs/89 protien

Meal 3: 11:30am
2 Chick Breast purdue fit and easy 4oz 110 each cal,1g fat each,0 carb each,25g prot each, Total 220/2/0/50
½ cup Brown Rice Carolina brand. 300cal, 2fatgrams, 64carbs, 6g protein. 300/2/64/6
Total for meal: 520 calories/4 fat/64 carbs/56 protien

Meal 4: 2:30pm
2 pouches of starkest Tuna 90 cal each, 1g fat each, 0 carb each, 19g protein each. Total 180/2/0/38
1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise 90cal, 10g fat, 0 carbs, 0 protien 90/10/0/0
Total for meal: 270 calories/2 fat/ 0 carbs/ 19 protien

Meal 5: 4:30pm (before gym)
Dannon plain non fat yogurt: 6 oz 80cal, 0fat, 12carbs, 9 protien 80/0/12/9
Total Corn flakes: 2-2/3 cups: 224cal, 0fat, 52carbs, 4 prot . 224/0/52/4
Meal Total : 304 calories, 0 fat grams, 64 carbs, 13 protien needs work

Workout

Meal 6: PWO Nutrition 7:00pm (after the gym)
4 oz Whole grain pasta 380 cal, 3g fat, 80 carb, 16 protien 380/3/80/16
4oz chick breast 110cal, 1g fat, 0 carb, 25gprot 110/1/0/25
Total for meal: 490 cal, 4g fat, 80 carbs, 41g protein

Meal 7: (930pm at home)
1 Chick Breast purdue fit and easy 4oz 110 cal,1g fat ,0 carb ,25g prot 110/1/0/25
1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise 90cal, 10g fat, 0 carbs, 0 protien 90/10/0/0
1 slice wheat bread 55cal, 1gfat, 9carbs, 2.5protien 55/1/9/2.5
2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter 188 cal, 16g fat, 7carb, 7prot 188/16/7/7
Total for meal: 443 cal/ 28g fat/16carb/34.5 prot

Meal 8: Before Bed (11:30pm before bed)
3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil 360/21/3/60
Total for meal: 360cal, 21g fat, 3 carbs, 60 protien

Total for day: Approximately 3663 calories, 88 grams of fat, 324 grams Carbs, and. 376 grams protein

Thats what I have. I'm open to any suggestions.

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06-02-2005, 09:57 AM
locutus

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06-02-2005, 10:01 AM
taiboxa

not good read stickies if you havnet done so .. and if you have..read em again.. :(
06-02-2005, 10:10 AM
locutus

Quote:

Originally Posted by taiboxa

not good read stickies if you havnet done so .. and if you have..read em again.. :(

Thanks Tai, I was hoping to get your attention on this. What part am I not getting with that sticky? I have the calories where they need to be for myself if I do that formula mentioned in the sticky. Do I have the ratios wrong for protien/carbs/fat? Do I not have enough carbs? Too much carbs? The protien should be pretty close for a smaller guy with my size/weight. I have read that thing over and over again and I still cant seem to make it work for me. What part do you think I am messing up on? You ARE the man on this Diet forum so I am listening (while im working of course).

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06-02-2005, 02:17 PM
locutus

ok, new and improved...

Quote:

Originally Posted by taiboxa

not good read stickies if you havnet done so .. and if you have..read em again.. :(

Ok, I have re-read that again and again and now I am following that sticky more closely than before. Can I ask you to tell me what you think of this newly revised food plan? Target for calories is 3500 and target for protien is 402g (2.5x current body weight). Still want to bulk cleanly on my test/deca cycle. Give it to me str8 bros.

Key= Calories/fat/carbs/protien

Meal 1 7:00am (protein and carbs) (COMPLETED)
8 Egg Whites (17cal each, 0fat each, 0carb each, 4protien each), Total 136/0/0/32
1 Scoop Of Whey Protein (120cal,0fat,4carb,22protien), Total 120/0/4/22
2 4oz(1/2 cup) oatmeal (150cal each, 3gfat each, 27g carbs each,5gr protein each) Total 300/6/54/10
Total for meal: 556/6/ 58/64

Meal 2 9:30 am (protein and fat) (COMPLETED)
2 packages (4oz each) Bumble bee fillet lemon & Pepper. 320/2/0/69
1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise 90/10/0/0
Meal total: 410/12/0/69

Meal 3 11:45am (protein and carbs) (COMPLETED)
2 Chick Breast purdue fit and easy 4oz 220/2/0/50
½ cup Brown Rice Carolina brand. 300/2/64/6
Total for meal: 520 /4 /64 /56

Meal4 2:30pm (protein and fat) (COMPLETED)
¼ lb EXTRA Lean Ground Beef, (per 128g) cal 300 fat 13.8 carb 0 prot 42g
¼ cup (2 1oz slices) swiss cheese, 100 cal, 2fat, 2carb, 16prot
Total for meal: 400/15.8/2/58

Meal 5 4:30pm (not sure on this one)
1 bottle (20 oz) Isopure zero carb liquid protein 160/0/0/40
Total for meal: 160/0/0/40

Workout: 530-7pm

Meal 6 7:00pm (PWO) (COMPLETED)
2 Scoops Whey Protein 240/3/8/44
80g of Dextrose (that’s 20 4g servings at once). 300/0/80/0
Total for meal: 540/3/88/44

Meal 7 7:30pm (PPWO) (COMPLETED)
4 oz Whole grain pasta 380/3/80/16
4oz chick breast 110/1/0/25
Total for meal: 490/4/80/41

Meal 8 10:00pm (before bed) COMPLETED
3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 360/4.5/12/66
1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil 195/21/0/0
Total for meal: 555/25.5/12/66

Total for day: 3631 Calories / 70.3 g fat/304 carbs/438g protein.

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06-02-2005, 04:11 PM
locutus

hmm what do I gotta do to get attention ?

So a thead about green colored jizz (in the other forum) gets 50 replies but a thread asking for help with a bulking diet 2 days before the beginnning of a cycle only gets one response????

Would it help if I said I needed this diet to work for me so I can go to LA to film a porno movie? How about if I tell you I need this so I can have great sex with my girlfriends and my wife this weekend?

Hey, that stuffed seemed to work for other members threads, remember. :7up:
06-02-2005, 05:43 PM
fritz2435

Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus

So a thead about green colored jizz (in the other forum) gets 50 replies but a thread asking for help with a bulking diet 2 days before the beginnning of a cycle only gets one response????

Would it help if I said I needed this diet to work for me so I can go to LA to film a porno movie? How about if I tell you I need this so I can have great sex with my girlfriends and my wife this weekend?

Hey, that stuffed seemed to work for other members threads, remember. :7up:

What is it you want to hear? There are hundreds of critiqued bulking diets out ther you can search up... Noone knows exactly how you respond to certain foods. It is a good start, give it a try and adjust from there.
06-02-2005, 09:42 PM
locutus

Quote:

Originally Posted by fritz2435

What is it you want to hear? There are hundreds of critiqued bulking diets out ther you can search up... Noone knows exactly how you respond to certain foods. It is a good start, give it a try and adjust from there.

I want to hear what Tai thought was wrong with it because I value his opinion and knowledge. The point of this is to use the sticky as a guide, create a diet that works for my needs and make sure I hit the fat/carb/prot levels correctly. I am posting it, as many others have done, so it can be critiqued by the vets and experienced bulkers.

What do I want to hear? I want to hear "hey you are way off, your ratios are wrong", or "Hey bro, that looks good for your weight/height/cycle, good luck and let us know how it goes."

Until then I will keep trying.