Rice Cakes?

[LAGMuXle]

Quaker White Cheddar?

[steve0]

theres nothing to rice cakes so i dont bother with em

[LAGMuXle]

I guess I was referring to them as a snack during the day. I get hungry all the time, and figured they were harmless.

[Myka]

They are harmless...most start to accumulate carbs at 6+ cakes...

[thestudent]

I eat about 6 every day post workout with my whey and dextrose. They have 1g of fiber each and provide some flavor during the day. i go for the maple brown sugar or cinnamin

[copenhagen]

lighltly salted with honey and cinnamon pwo

[novastepp]

so is there a downside to eating a couple during the day?

[SwoleCat]

Rice cakes are one of the highest GI foods you could eat.

If you are one who doesn't have to worry about high GI carb foods, then I suppose it wouldn't matter. Personally, I'd only eat them after a workout as part of my high glycemic carb source (as high GI is my personal preference).

~SC~

[bigsd67]

I use them pwo now and then to change it up

[Kurz]

If you eat them with peanut butter, it knocks the GI way down....many many bros I know use them during contest prep during the day....not sure why, as SC stated, but apperently the cals are low enough that the spike is very minor.

HOWEVER, they dont fill u up at all......

Try the organic brown rice cakes.........

[LAGMuXle]

I'm confused on the GI... is there a thread on here I can read up in more detail on GI?

[SwoleCat]

I'd never put PB on a rice cake!!!

I don't trust that it'll lower the GI of the carb, nope.

That's like saying cheese will lower the GI of a hamburger bun on a
Whopper.

I ain't chancin' it at all, but you guys can enjoy!

~SC~

[SwoleCat]

FROM CARB-INFORMATION.COM:

Glycemic Index for: Rice Cake

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Food: Rice Cake
Glycemic Index: 78
Glycemic Index Rating: High

Glycemic Index Explained
The glycemic index is a measurement of the type or quality of carbs in a particular food, and how fast 50 grams of this carbohydrate raises blood glucose levels, (and consequent insulin secretion and effects produced by the pancreas) as it is digested.

Glycemic Response to Rice Cake
Carbs in Rice Cake have a rapid effect on blood sugar levels.





~SC~

[spittin' 'n cussin']

the gi of one food can be changed a lot by whatever food u eat with it.

pb would not be my choice though...fat and carbs...dirty bulk maybe?

[Kurz]

pb and rice cuts all through myu last cut....sub 6%......trust me.

[novastepp]

SC- at that website where do you find a glycemic index you can plug carbs into? i can't find it, and im curious to snoop around...

[SwoleCat]

pb and rice cuts all through myu last cut....sub 6%......trust me.

PB and rice cuts??

Bottom line is, if it works for you, great.

But, saying "trust me" doesn't mean anything.

It's not a practice that should be touted by any means while dieting.

~SC~

[SwoleCat]

SC- at that website where do you find a glycemic index you can plug carbs into? i can't find it, and im curious to snoop around...

Just go to google and type in Glycemic Index of Foods.

You'll get more than enough.

~SC~

[novastepp]

thanks man...

[LAGMuXle]

Thank you SC;

Clarification at it's best.

[ttuprincess]

pb and rice cuts all through myu last cut....sub 6%......trust me.

I did too, tasty little treat i thought I was cheating tastes so good

[steve0]

yah i used all natty pb and plain rice cakes before taste pretty good and i was chillin at 8 %

[Kurz]

maybe its just sc's personal choice....to each his own, but like I said, I ripp up pretty hard eating them daily.....never knew anyone that got fat from them, but its total calories overall that count. Eat a few packs and a few jars of pb, you may put on some mass

[SwoleCat]

Yeah, if you can get away w/it, by all means do it.

I don't believe in the statment "it's overall calories that count" because I've dis-proven that statement with my "why I don't count calories" article, as well as taking people's diets, ending up w/the same amount of "calories" in the end, but VERY DIFFERENT food choices and macro dispursements, and the results have skyrocketed tenfold.

Take 2000kcals and give someone burgers/fries to total 2000, then give another subject lean chicken breast, lean steak, green vegetables, and clean carb sources to total 2000 all ingested at key times, and examine what each subject looks like after a 1 month period.

2000 kcals of group A food is far different than 2000 calories from group B food, and results seen TOTALLY reflect that.
It's not total kcals, it's WHAT those total kcals are comprised of, when they are eaten, why, with what, etc.

I know this shit like the back of my hand.

~SC~

[Kurz]

Yeah, if you can get away w/it, by all means do it.

I don't believe in the statment "it's overall calories that count" because I've dis-proven that statement with my "why I don't count calories" article, as well as taking people's diets, ending up w/the same amount of "calories" in the end, but VERY DIFFERENT food choices and macro dispursements, and the results have skyrocketed tenfold.

Take 2000kcals and give someone burgers/fries to total 2000, then give another subject lean chicken breast, lean steak, green vegetables, and clean carb sources to total 2000 all ingested at key times, and examine what each subject looks like after a 1 month period.

2000 kcals of group A food is far different than 2000 calories from group B food, and results seen TOTALLY reflect that.
It's not total kcals, it's WHAT those total kcals are comprised of, when they are eaten, why, with what, etc.

I know this shit like the back of my hand.

~SC~

I would seriously be interested in seeing this actually studied......and a test conducted.

[SwoleCat]

Contact a University!

Honestly, if what I said doesn't make sense to you, then I really don't know what to tell you. Like I said, to each his own for sure, what people take from this as to believing it or not is not going to ruin my day, believe me!
I know what works for what I do and for what I do in those that I assist, and that's all that is of a concern for me.

Carry on people.



~SC~

[Giantz11]

I would seriously be interested in seeing this actually studied......and a test conducted.

It doesn't ever have to be. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to be seen on here as well as if you check out Swole's board. The separation and timing of macro's will play a much larger role in one fitness goals. Do you have to end up in a caloric deficit at the end of the day? Yes you most certainly do. But there are optimal times to eat certain meals over the course of a day, which end up making a huge diffence. You said you rip up eating rice cakes well thats all fine and great, but there are many and I mean many that cannot get away with rice cakes and PB because of genetics/soma type etc....

There will never be a study about this because bodybuilding life style/goals will never be studies. We lose weight and want to keep all muscle, the obese subject that studies are done on, are not concerned with these matters.

[SwoleCat]

Well put G!

~SC~

[Kurz]

ok....just want to see someone that cant diet with pb and rice cakes...lol..boy is this a dumb argument....nevermind....you win....actually, I wasnt arguing, I just wanted to see the study

[SwoleCat]

To carry out a self study, one could do this:

1) For a 30 day period, eat burgers/fries daily. All of your activity is the same.
Calories are 2000 or pick an amount that you wish to attain.

2) For a 2nd 30 day period, eat clean carbs/lean protein, and healthy fats. Don't combine fats/carbs, but carbs/pro, and protein/fat. Activity once more is the same, and calories will be the same as they were for the first month.

At the end of those 30 days, take photos of how you look and do a comparison. The message will then be pretty clear. As well, realize that even more of a change for the BETTER can be had by following certain timing techniques when it comes to what you eat, when, with what, how much, why, etc.

~SC~

[steve0]

nothing but burgers and fries ??? what happen to a little cake in there to you need some cake,mmmmmmmmm talk about a bulker

[Kurz]

To carry out a self study, one could do this:

1) For a 30 day period, eat burgers/fries daily. All of your activity is the same.
Calories are 2000 or pick an amount that you wish to attain.

2) For a 2nd 30 day period, eat clean carbs/lean protein, and healthy fats. Don't combine fats/carbs, but carbs/pro, and protein/fat. Activity once more is the same, and calories will be the same as they were for the first month.

At the end of those 30 days, take photos of how you look and do a comparison. The message will then be pretty clear. As well, realize that even more of a change for the BETTER can be had by following certain timing techniques when it comes to what you eat, when, with what, how much, why, etc.

~SC~

tempting....I've conducted some other studies myself such as switching to dex for a month, eating carbs late night, etc....no real notice, esp. when I use dext over oats....but this is tempting....

[SwoleCat]

I can't believe that you would actually spend the time to do such an experiment.

It wasn't a serious challenge. It was a joke, meant to CLEARLY showcase and illustrate how one method is SUPERIOR to the other one. Simply by reading the two scenarios one can clearly understand which is a great approach and which one is a joke.

Well, you would at least hope so.

~SC~

[WHOADY4SHOADY]

Hey SC if you dont mind can you maybe PM me that info or let me know where I can find it on "why you dont count calories"? Thanks in advance bro?