What do you guys eat preworkout while cutting.

[CoreyTampa09]

Usually my diet revolves something around this on lifting days.... and this is what I've been eatind pre workout for good energy and a nice pump.
7:00am - 40 minutes cardio

8:15am - 3 eggwhite veggie omeletee, 5 hard boiled eggs no yolk

11:45am - Salad w/ cucumber,tomatoes,olives,redonions,10 raisins,small amount of sunfolower seeds with oil and vinegar and 6 hardboiled eggs.

3:15pm (Pre-workout) - 3/4 cup of oats mixed with one scoop of why microwaved with sweet n low and water.

4:00 workout

5:15 - 2 scoops of whey (40 grams), 1 scoop of dextrose 35 carbs, 1 banana, water and ice.

6:15 - probally 4 slices of deli meat turkey fom the cafe, mixed veggies, maybe another salad with harboiled eggs.

10:30 - some cottage cheese before sleep.

[MatrixGuy]

Well for me at the moment its lean steak, egg whites and flax. I keep my carbs to morning and PWO while cutting.

[mwolffey]

i train at night but i just have a whey shake and some flax or fish oil preworkout...but its all dependant on what time you train...imo

[stayinstacked]

I usually have some egg whites and a bowl of oatmeal, or half a potato and some chicken. I usually try to keep my pre workout meals kind of light.

[CoreyTampa09]

MmMmmM just made my shake ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS! 1 scoop of dex 2 scoops of vanilla whey 1 whole bana cup of ice water. UNBELIEVABLE! I wish I could have this more often, but I cant =/ only PWO

[Myka]

pro/fat

[CoreyTampa09]

Really, I thought you were supposed to have carbs and protein as it's listed in the sticky for cutting. Maybe your bulking.

[Myka]

rofl...thats not bible

[Superballer]

^^^^ what he said.

I use pro/fat as well, fills me up a little less and I don't like being full during workout.

[CoreyTampa09]

O shit i confused myself, I thought I wrote that as Post workout, yeah I do the same haha

[D7M]

pro/fat for me while cutting....coreytampa, you count the number of raisins on your salad?

that's dedication, bro

[hulkzer]

what are your current stats? what is the goal weight or bf%?

[Giants11]

It's a terrible idea to ever havea pro/fat meal before a workout. It creates a very catabolic environment.

[*Narkissos*]

I have a pro/fat meal before my workouts...

[Giants11]

I have a pro/fat meal before my workouts...

Ohhhh, I'd have to advise against that.

[mwolffey]

I have a pro/fat meal before my workouts...

Well Nark looks better than me so im gonna have to agree... but IMO if you have your glycogen stores filled before that pro/fat meal it really should not matter right....?...Im just learning to seperate macros this cutting cycle .I eat pro/fat pre workout while cutting and i have kept my strength up and have only lost mostly fat mass, 8 weeks into cutting for my competition...but thats just me

[*Narkissos*]

Ohhhh, I'd have to advise against that.

This is the nitric oxide argument isn't it?

[Giants11]

This is the nitric oxide argument isn't it?

No not at all.

[mwolffey]

This is the nitric oxide argument isn't it?

Well...look what BSN did for Ronnie...because of them and the "MASS STACK" he won this years olympia ...i mean thats what seperated him and jay.... I guess Nitric Oxide works wonders, it will even help you win the Olympia

[MatrixGuy]

It's a terrible idea to ever havea pro/fat meal before a workout. It creates a very catabolic environment.

What if your on a cutter bro? I have to save my only carbs for breakfast and PWO. I can't have anymore.

[Kärnfysikern]

pre workout on weekends I have a whey shake, a cup of coffe and hit the gym.

On regular days my pre workout meal is usualy a oats/whey shake.

[Giants11]

What if your on a cutter bro? I have to save my only carbs for breakfast and PWO. I can't have anymore.

I'd move the carbs from breakfast to pre-workour for two reasons.

1. The most recent studies are now showing that a carb/pro intake pre-training might actually have a greater anabolic response than post workout. That being a huge factor in my choice.

2. Fat is not able to be used for energy pre-workout. You are doing anaerobic exercise that cannot utlize fat. If you only had carbs at breakfast, glycogen will be very low by the time you lift. So that means that you cannot use the fat from your meal you will use protein. Which is a complete waste of protein, it will converted to glucose for energy, an inefficient process at best. Depending on the length and intensity of your workout you will run the risk of being catabolic. As opposed to a pro/carb where you can be anabolic.

Just doesn't make sense to lift weight while muscle glycogen is low, this is promoting a catabolic environment.

[Giants11]

Effects of amino acid intake on anabolic processes.

Wolfe RR.

University of Texas Medical Branch, Shriners Burns Hospital, Galveston, TX, USA.

In the resting state muscle protein breakdown exceeds the rate of muscle protein synthesis, meaning that the balance between synthesis and breakdown is negative. Resistance exercise improves the net balance by stimulating muscle protein synthesis, but nutrient intake is required for synthesis to exceed breakdown (i.e., an anabolic response). Exercise and exogenous amino acids have an additive effect on muscle protein synthesis. There is a time-course of the response to a steady-state change in amino acid concentration. The signal for stimulation of muscle protein synthesis appears to be the extracellular concentrations of one or more of the essential amino acids (EAAs). Further, the rate, and direction, of change in extracellular concentrations (rather than the static concentration, per se) may be the important. Ingestion of non-essential AAs is not needed to stimulate muscle protein synthesis. Carbohydrate has, at most, a modest effect to enhance the response to amino acid ingestion after exercise. Finally, a mixture of EAAs + CHO more effectively stimulates muscle protein synthesis when taken before as opposed to after exercise.

[Giants11]

Timing of amino acid-carbohydrate ingestion alters anabolic response of muscle to resistance exercise.

Tipton KD, Rasmussen BB, Miller SL, Wolf SE, Owens-Stovall SK, Petrini BE, Wolfe RR.

Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, Texas 77550, USA. [email protected]

The present study was designed to determine whether consumption of an oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement (EAC) before exercise results in a greater anabolic response than supplementation after resistance exercise. Six healthy human subjects participated in two trials in random order, PRE (EAC consumed immediately before exercise), and POST (EAC consumed immediately after exercise). A primed, continuous infusion of L-[ring-(2)H(5)]phenylalanine, femoral arteriovenous catheterization, and muscle biopsies from the vastus lateralis were used to determine phenylalanine concentrations, enrichments, and net uptake across the leg. Blood and muscle phenylalanine concentrations were increased by approximately 130% after drink consumption in both trials. Amino acid delivery to the leg was increased during exercise and remained elevated for the 2 h after exercise in both trials. Delivery of amino acids (amino acid concentration times blood flow) was significantly greater in PRE than in POST during the exercise bout and in the 1st h after exercise (P < 0.05). Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg was greater (P = 0.0002) during PRE (209 +/- 42 mg) than during POST (81 +/- 19). Phenylalanine disappearance rate, an indicator of muscle protein synthesis from blood amino acids, increased after EAC consumption in both trials. These results indicate that the response of net muscle protein synthesis to consumption of an EAC solution immediately before resistance exercise is greater than that when the solution is consumed after exercise, primarily because of an increase in muscle protein synthesis as a result of increased delivery of amino acids to the leg.

[Kärnfysikern]

giantz what journals where those 2 published in? Wanna check and se if I can get the whole thing. Want to se what ammounts of carbs they where using.

Sounds interesting

[Giants11]

giantz what journals where those 2 published in? Wanna check and se if I can get the whole thing. Want to se what ammounts of carbs they where using.

Sounds interesting

I'll get back to you ButterCup

[Kärnfysikern]

I'll get back to you ButterCup

dont tease me just because I got boobs

[Giants11]

But they are such wonderful man boobs!

[Kärnfysikern]

they sure get me attention on the beach. All those hungry eyes mentaly groping me