Cardio On Empty Stomach

**speedtraining** · 04-05-2006, 10:22 PM

What is the differnce from doing cardio on a empty stomach then doing it with food, why would that burn fat..and wouldn't once you eat your body just try to restore that fat even if you are eating very minimal amounts of carbs no sugar and lots of protien. Basically I want to know what the advantage is indoing cardio in the morning on a empty stomach.

Speed.

**bcap** · 04-05-2006, 11:47 PM

My interpretation - and I know it is not the ONLY reason, as one of them has to do with Glycogen stores, but I know nothing about that, I will leave that up to someone else - is very simple.

When you wake up, you have slept for at least 8 hours (hopefully) and haven't had food for 8 hours. All the food in your stomach has been broken down and sent away to where it needs to go (i.e. nutrients, yada yada). When you then do cardio on an empty stomach, your body needs to get energy from SOMEWHERE, so it takes it off your body - if you are doing lit (65% hr), it'll take the majority off of fat.

That's pretty much the stupid version of the explanation - I think - anyone please feel free to correct me, as, if I am wrong I would like to know the correct response.

Bryan

**DirtyDog7** · 04-06-2006, 08:09 AM

This should help:

Better to eat b4 cardio in AM?

CARDIO- I need to get a straight answer

I'm on my way to the gym right now on an empty stomach. The tredmill for me is @10% incline 3.2mph. It puts me at 65% to 70%

**bad_man** · 04-06-2006, 08:20 AM

BLAH BLAH

Originally Posted by speedtraining

What is the differnce from doing cardio on a empty stomach then doing it with food, why would that burn fat..

YOUR BODY HAS AN ORDER OF PREFERENCE OF THINGS IT LIKES TO CONSUME FOR FUEL. ONE OF THE LAST THINGS ON THE LIST IS BODYFAT. AT THE TOP OF THE LIST IS GLYCOGEN. IF YOU HAVE AN EMPTY STOMACH, YOUR GLYCOGEN WILL BE CONSUMED IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES. AFTER THIS, YOUR BODY WILL BEGIN USING BODYFAT FOR FUEL (CALLED LIPOLYSIS). IF YOU HAVE FOOD IN YOUR SYSTEM, YOUR BODY WILL CONTINUE CONVERTING IT (ESPECIALLY CARBS) INTO GLYCOGEN.

and wouldn't once you eat your body just try to restore that fat even if you are eating very minimal amounts of carbs no sugar and lots of protien.

NOT REALLY. FAT CONVERTS VERY SLOWLY TO GLYCOGEN AND GLYCOGEN IS USED TO SHUTTLE PROTEIN TO YOUR GROWING MUSCLES. IN THE WRONG QUANTITIES IT ALSO ADDS TO FAT STORES, SO YOU CAN'T START EATING TRIPLE BACON CHEESEBURGERS. BUT IF YOU EAT "PROPERLY" THEN YOUR BODY WILL NOT TRY TO REPLACE THE FAT IT JUST USED.

A CAVEAT TO THAT IS THE CONSUMPTION OF CARBS AFTER CARDIO. CARBS CONVERT QUICKLY TO GLYCOGEN, WHICH YOUR BODY WILL START CONSUMING - THUS ENDING LIPOLYSIS. LIPOLYSIS CAN CONTINUE FOR AN HOUR AFTER YOU FINISH YOUR CARDIO SO AVOID CARBS AFTERWARDS FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR.

Basically I want to know what the advantage is indoing cardio in the morning on a empty stomach.

Speed.

LOVE,
THE BAD MAN

**Giants11** · 04-06-2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by bad_man

BLAH BLAH

Whoa dude, not trying to call you out here, cause you give alot of good advice. But what you said is completely false.

**bad_man** · 04-06-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Giants11

Whoa dude, not trying to call you out here, cause you give alot of good advice. But what you said is completely false.

I'm running on zero sleep this morning and I feel like my brain hasn't started, but what about what I said is false?

**speedtraining** · 04-06-2006, 09:30 AM

One last question fellas, what does my heart rate have to be at? 65-70% of what, I want to do this right. Thanks fellas.

Speed.

**Giants11** · 04-06-2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

One last question fellas, what does my heart rate have to be at? 65-70% of what, I want to do this right. Thanks fellas.

Speed.

Your max heart rate:

220-Age = Max Heart Rate.

**SwoleCat** · 04-06-2006, 09:45 AM

I'd do a search on this site for "morning cardio".

You'd be able to read about it all day.

I've written 100's of respones and such on that topic, so I no longer get into the battles here over cardio/when/what types because there is simply no need.

~SC~

**steve0** · 04-06-2006, 11:06 AM

looks like this post has been taken care of again, whats up with all the morning cardio questions on an empty stomach its beeen debated a million times and people still ask, my advice is if you are ables to do it in the morning then do it, if cannot then do it when you can its better than not doing it at all.

**SwoleCat** · 04-06-2006, 11:22 AM

Exactly, beaten down like a red headed step child.

~SC~

**novastepp** · 04-06-2006, 11:24 AM

lipolysis is when fat is in the form of FFA's and begins circulating to be consumed for energy right?

**speedtraining** · 04-06-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Giants11

Your max heart rate:

220-Age = Max Heart Rate.

thanks bro.

**Hackamaniac** · 04-06-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Exactly, beaten down like a red headed step child.

~SC~

I take some offence to that Swole why's it got to be a redheaded step child

**Giants11** · 04-06-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

lipolysis is when fat is in the form of FFA's and begins circulating to be consumed for energy right?

Yes it is the release of FFA's into the bloodstream. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less.

**novastepp** · 04-06-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Giants11

Yes it is the release of FFA's into the bloodstream. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less.

that's exactly what i thought. too many guys on here think that is the fat expendature which is totally wrong.

**Giants11** · 04-06-2006, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

that's exactly what i thought. too many guys on here think that is the fat expendature which is totally wrong.

You can release FFA's from adipocytes all damn day, if you don't do anything to burn them, they will be re-formed back into triglycerides and stored as fat.

**novastepp** · 04-06-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Giants11

You can release FFA's from adipocytes all damn day, if you don't do anything to burn them, they will be re-formed back into triglycerides and stored as fat.

AMEN! i'm bumping this so bro's can get this straight.

**SwoleCat** · 04-06-2006, 06:52 PM

If I ated sum pnuut butrrr curnch with sikm mikl and then did cardoi, culd I stell birn faat?

Thanx guys! Tryign to get thsi donw.

**Giants11** · 04-06-2006, 07:48 PM

Swole, you tripping me out bro

**mwolffey** · 04-06-2006, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

If I ated sum pnuut butrrr curnch with sikm mikl and then did cardoi, culd I stell birn faat?

Thanx guys! Tryign to get thsi donw.

I dont know...but a couple whoppers might do the trick

**novastepp** · 04-06-2006, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

If I ated sum pnuut butrrr curnch with sikm mikl and then did cardoi, culd I stell birn faat?

Thanx guys! Tryign to get thsi donw.

no, and the only reason why is because the skim milk has too many added sugars. the peanut butter crunch would be great though IMO.

**DirtyDog7** · 04-07-2006, 09:58 AM

Is that a real picture of Arnold looking old?

**steve0** · 04-07-2006, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

If I ated sum pnuut butrrr curnch with sikm mikl and then did cardoi, culd I stell birn faat?

Thanx guys! Tryign to get thsi donw.

NO SWOL, but peanut butter on grham crackers will. !!

**SwoleCat** · 04-07-2006, 12:15 PM

Thanks fro teh hepl gusy!

~SC~

**novastepp** · 04-07-2006, 12:40 PM

no prob man, hey who is that in your avatar man? looking...swole?!

**DirtyDog7** · 04-08-2006, 03:36 PM

I like the am cardio hunger feeling.

Before I came here, I thought that diets were suppose to be painful and hard. Like not eating all day and starving yourself.

But now I eat small amounts of food every two to three hours so I'm never really that hungry. My morning cardio is the only time that I feel super hungry and that makes me feel like I'm more dedicated to my weight loss.

That extra hunger pain makes me happy before I start eating my eight meals for the day.