food between weights and cardio?

[eljeffe]

I work out and then do cardio and I have heard from someone I trust to be a semi expert that if you do not have any protien after a workout ie PWO shake that your body will start breaking down muscle for energy while doing cardio, mind you I am a natural hard gainer and do very light cardio, I have started drinking about half my shake while on the bike, does anyone know of anything contrary to this or have any other ideas, I use to take some amino acids between but not sure if that does anything?


thanks in advance!

[1buffsob]

That is why cardio after a workout is not recommended. If you're a hardgainer, simply don't do cardio after lifting. And it's pointless to eat protein in between lifting and cardio since the food will only be used as fuel for cardio, thus, negating the whole purpose of cardio to begin with.

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[Superballer]

I agree.... I've read again and again to avoid cardio after weight training....

but there are some who feel it works for them (I believe Nark is an example).

[1buffsob]

Nark is a believer in cardio after workouts, but he's an exception. I think it's more the mentality 'cardio is better than no cardio'. But I still feel it is far from optimal. I'll let him chime in on his own feelings though.

And Nark's opinion is...........

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[*Alex*]

here he is......

[1buffsob]

I know What a coincidence.

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[*Narkissos*]

I don't believe that i'm an exception as i know a bunch of top competitors who do cardio PWO.

I also know some who do both a.m. and pwo cardio because imo there are instances where 'more is better'

Anyway. .that was not your question.

I work out and then do cardio

Has this been working for you? THIS is the important factor.. knowing what works... or rather, learning what works: the how's and why's

and I have heard from someone I trust to be a semi expert that if you do not have any protien after a workout ie PWO shake that your body will start breaking down muscle for energy while doing cardio

I believe your 'expert' is mis-informed... we do cardio to mobilise and burn triglycerides...the proposed fuel of cardio is fat.. This is a gross oversimplification but you get the picture.

mind you I am a natural hard gainer and do very light cardio,

I'm curious.. why are you doing cardio? For cardiovascular health?

If you are indeed an ectomorph... keep the duration pwo short.. and light.

I have started drinking about half my shake while on the bike,

Bad idea.. it will be burnt as fuel during cardio if you provide it.. Thus depriving your muscles of fuel for recovery.. AND curtailing fat mobilisation.

does anyone know of anything contrary to this or have any other ideas, I use to take some amino acids between but not sure if that does anything?

Just do the cardio.. I've use aminos prior to cardio.. I don't think they did anything. If anything they may have curtailed fat loss as soem aminos are glucogenic (i.e. in times of glucose derivation they're cleaved and reduced to glucose for use as fuel). Keep it light and short average duration.

thanks in advance!

Good luck

~Narkissos

[eljeffe]

Has this been working for you? THIS is the important factor.. knowing what works... or rather, learning what works: the how's and why's

If you mean do I look thin and trim then yes but for putting on any weight no. Right now I am just trying to maintain, that is a picture of me in my avitar, so as you can tell I am thin to begin with.

If you are indeed an ectomorph... keep the duration pwo short.. and light.

I odn't really know how to define ectomorph but I can stay skinny eating whatever, whenever, which is my basic definition, how long is short, I do about 30 min 3x week, real light, between 60-75% of max heart rate.

I am caught between wanting to get a little bigger and stay shredded, I just don't think they can both happen at the same time, that being said it is summer so I will go with shreade, so do you think the cardio is good at all for me, I did notice the last time I slimmed down, cardio played a large role.

Thanks again

[*Alex*]

I don't believe that i'm an exception as i know a bunch of top competitors who do cardio PWO.

I also know some who do both a.m. and pwo cardio because imo there are instances where 'more is better'

Anyway. .that was not your question.



Has this been working for you? THIS is the important factor.. knowing what works... or rather, learning what works: the how's and why's



I believe your 'expert' is mis-informed... we do cardio to mobilise and burn triglycerides...the proposed fuel of cardio is fat.. This is a gross oversimplification but you get the picture.



I'm curious.. why are you doing cardio? For cardiovascular health?

If you are indeed an ectomorph... keep the duration pwo short.. and light.



Bad idea.. it will be burnt as fuel during cardio if you provide it.. Thus depriving your muscles of fuel for recovery.. AND curtailing fat mobilisation.



Just do the cardio.. I've use aminos prior to cardio.. I don't think they did anything. If anything they may have curtailed fat loss as soem aminos are glucogenic (i.e. in times of glucose derivation they're cleaved and reduced to glucose for use as fuel). Keep it light and short average duration.




Good luck

~Narkissos

i think this sums it up pretty well.......bye bye now.

[sooners04]

If your having that many problems gaining weight then X the cardio.

[SwoleCat]

I would NOT be drinking anything before cardio after a workout.

If you are forced to do them both together, break up the bodyparts so you train no more than 30 mins. Then do the cardio for 30 mins, a total of 1 hour in the gym.

U can then eat and begin the recovery process after. It's when you train for an hour or more, then try to do cardio for like 45 mins after that when you run into big issues!

~SC~