how much protein is too much?

[trisdog]

Is there a limit to how much protein ones body can intake during the day? Does it change while your on aas .. whats the most protein you can intake at one time 50g 60g or more?

[Myka]

Ive heard anywhere from 30 to 90...I believe its different with your size and with how long you have been dieting with high protein...but personally I dont exceed 30 to 40 in each meal

[BADASS323]

i've also heard your body can only use between 30-40 at a time

[trisdog]

wow really.. hmm does it change while on aas .. can your body handle more?.. i have been taking 60g protein shakes... I'm 5'10 190 .. always used to take 30-40g protein shakes but I wanted to increase it!

[suckysucky]

the most i take is 60 and thats PWO.

[Lavinco]

Who knows!

I do know however that you have to give your kidneys a break after a while. High protien intake is hard on the kidneys.

I cycle high doses like 350g/day for 3 months and take a few weeks off from the shakes to give the kids a little break.

[1buffsob]

The positive nitrogen balance created from aas use will allow much more protein to be built into muscle. But 60g whey in one meal is pushing it. Too fastly absorbed. Whatever your body can't use at the moment, gets flushed out. You need to push the protein envelope to gain mass, but your body can only handle so much in one meal. Better to spread it out throughout the day. Most I take in one meal is 50g for PWO. 30-40g is my norm when cutting, and I'll go a bit higher, and much more frequent, when bulking.

1buffsob

[chest6]

I'd say I eat too much all the time. Wayy too much

[Katelette81]

Nice pic! Now there's a combo you wouldn't want to fvck with! WooHoo! Nice Buff!

[1buffsob]

Nice pic! Now there's a combo you wouldn't want to fvck with! WooHoo! Nice Buff!

Thank you. I am obviously the sexier of the two. LOL

1buffsob

Don't change my shit you little sucker. I will crush you. lol

[*Narkissos*]

Thank you. He is obviously the sexier of the two. LOL

1buffsob

True.. but gay of you to notice

[THE_DOME]

i usually hit up 60g back when i was younger i would hit 100 gramers up with a bannana and yougurt it would fit in a 64oz big gulp, i just laugh i was stupid

[Katelette81]

True.. but gay of you to notice

LOL... now that's funny...

But getting to the topic, I usually consume 40g in my shakes x 2 shakes a day on training days, 1 on non training days but of course more protein based foods.. but yes, 40g at most in one sitting..

[kyjelly]

Whats the deal with ev1 saying like 40g in one shake? Cuz my protein shake itself is 56g, plus add in the milk I use. It comes out to 60 some odd g's of protein. lol, I dont wanna die.!!!!!!!!

[Myka]

you wont die

[1buffsob]

Whats the deal with ev1 saying like 40g in one shake? Cuz my protein shake itself is 56g, plus add in the milk I use. It comes out to 60 some odd g's of protein. lol, I dont wanna die.!!!!!!!!

You're not gonna die , but you are wasting protein.

Do you know why there is 56g of protein in your shake? Cause ignorant consumers believe what the supplement companies tell them.

I'll stick to my standard whey protein. Dymatize, ON, Champion Nutrition, etc.

1buffsob

[1buffsob]

LOL... now that's funny...

But getting to the topic, I usually consume 40g in my shakes x 2 shakes a day on training days, 1 on non training days but of course more protein based foods.. but yes, 40g at most in one sitting..

Are you insulting my better half. The sexy half with blue eyes.

1buffsob

BTW Kate, I'm glad to see a woman in the public dieting forum. Not many stop in here. Pinkvelvet used to, but I haven't seen her in some time.

[marcus300]

The more muscle tissue you carry the more protien you must consume to maintain it and build more, what ever the required dose of protien is needed for your body weight split that up evenly with your meals throughout the day.

[kyjelly]

You're not gonna die , but you are wasting protein.

Do you know why there is 56g of protein in your shake? Cause ignorant consumers believe what the supplement companies tell them.

I'll stick to my standard whey protein. Dymatize, ON, Champion Nutrition, etc.

1buffsob

I use ON's Pro Complex, and it has 55g of protein. So, Im basically wasting it you say? Maybe I should just go with 1 scoop, plus the milk. Hits me around 35g of protein.

[Beretta726]

The positive nitrogen balance created from aas use will allow much more protein to be built into muscle. But 60g whey in one meal is pushing it. Too fastly absorbed. Whatever your body can't use at the moment, gets flushed out. You need to push the protein envelope to gain mass, but your body can only handle so much in one meal. Better to spread it out throughout the day. Most I take in one meal is 50g for PWO. 30-40g is my norm when cutting, and I'll go a bit higher, and much more frequent, when bulking.

1buffsob

Would 40g every 2 hours be suitable?

[1buffsob]

Would 40g every 2 hours be suitable?

That would depend on your stats, diet, etc. But 40g of whole protein every 2 hours should be fine as far as your body being able to utilize most of the protein.

1buffsob

[trisdog]

If im 190 what should my daily protein intake look like?

[PhishStasH]

If im 190 what should my daily protein intake look like?

1-2g per lb of lean body mass (calculate by taking weight-(weight*BF%)). Also depends on your goals, and many other factors.

I usually stick with around 2g per lb of LBM. Brings me up to around 300g/day.

[Squatman51]

it all depends on your weight LBM and goals....a 150lb person will need muuch less than a 270lber

[IBdmfkr]

The more muscle tissue you carry the more protien you must consume to maintain it and build more, what ever the required dose of protien is needed for your body weight split that up evenly with your meals throughout the day.

There we go.

[ascendant]

well, i think the two main determining factors that let you know how much protein you need daily is first, how much muscle mass you have, second, how fast you're gaining at that point.

if you're at a point between cycles or for some other reason are expecting to not be putting on much mass and are training moreso for maintenance, your protein intake doesn't need to be as high. however, on cycles, i have gone up to 600g of protein a day, and i can tell you not only do i not have problems at that high of an intake, but the gains were very considerable, even when taking the gear into account.

i think the max 50g for a meal is a little low, especially for pwo. my pwo shake will typically have about 65-75g of protein in it. again, all depends on the individual.

as far as concerns for the kidneys, just drink a bottle of apple cider vinegar over the course of a week or two and that will flush out your kidneys. no need to do that more than once every few months at most. make sure it's organic and unfiltered. do a search on the web about it and you can find more info.

just like milk thistle can be used to protect the liver, there are plenty of ways to protect the kidneys to allow you to boost up those protein levels and get maximum results. don't let your kidneys stop you from letting your people grow.

[IBdmfkr]

well, i think the two main determining factors that let you know how much protein you need daily is first, how much muscle mass you have, second, how fast you're gaining at that point.

if you're at a point between cycles or for some other reason are expecting to not be putting on much mass and are training moreso for maintenance, your protein intake doesn't need to be as high. however, on cycles, i have gone up to 600g of protein a day, and i can tell you not only do i not have problems at that high of an intake, but the gains were very considerable, even when taking the gear into account.

I'd have to disagree with the first statement, as high levels of protein are very important especially while in a catabolic state during PCT.

The second statement about 600g/day is absurd, atleast half of that is from supplementation I'm sure, don't think you absorbed it all

JMO.

[TheSentinal]

Drink plenty of water when consuming high protein - always a good idea.

[ascendant]

I'd have to disagree with the first statement, as high levels of protein are very important especially while in a catabolic state during PCT.

The second statement about 600g/day is absurd, atleast half of that is from supplementation I'm sure, don't think you absorbed it all

JMO.

well, i didn't say a high protein intake wasn't needed during pct, but i don't think it needs to necessarily be as high as when you're bulking. i at least found in unecessary.

as far as 600g/day being absurd, that was back in the day when i bulked up from about 245 to 260lb. i do know that upping my protein from 400 to 600 at the time did unquestionably help me increase size faster. this is coming from personal experience, not opinion. not saying it will work for all, but it worked for me.

even if i didn't absorb all 600g, i was still absorbing over 400g, cause my results did improve, and the only thing i altered in my diet was more protein, i kept the calories the same.

[IBdmfkr]

No doubt it might've worked for you bro..

That was "JMO", I don't think 600 is acheivable with solid foods and will results to more fatgain than LBM. You didn't state your BF when you were 245 compared to 260?

Must have misunderstood the first part, I do think high protein intake is an absolute for maintaining size/strength when coming off a cycle.

[ascendant]

No doubt it might've worked for you bro..

That was "JMO", I don't think 600 is acheivable with solid foods and will results to more fatgain than LBM. You didn't state your BF when you were 245 compared to 260?

Must have misunderstood the first part, I do think high protein intake is an absolute for maintaining size/strength when coming off a cycle.

my bf% went up about 1-1.5% after the gain, but all things considered, i think that was more than worth the amount of size i gained. there were other things to take into account, but that extra protein was definitely a contributing factor. oh, and a good amount of it was from supplementation with whey protein.

i'm not saying that everyone should be taking in that much protein of course. if you don't need it, i do agree that it will be stored as bf. just as far as people being concerned about taking too much protein, i think it's more about your requirements rather than "what is too much" as far as concerns for the kidneys and such.

just showing though that some people can take in a hefty amount of protein and it will still be utilized. i just don't want people to be concerned that they shouldn't take more than a certain amount of protein and hinder their gains because of it. however, there is a concern for stored bf if the intake is too high compared to your bodies needs, i completely agree ibdmfkr. however, that can be kept under control by monitoring your progress week to week and making necessary adjustments based off of weight, bf%, measurements, etc.

[IBdmfkr]

Agreed,

[chest6]

Alright now that someone else came out and said it I will. During my 4 month bulk I was consistenly around the 600-650g protein mark. Some days I would get close to 700. Same amount of carbs..And yes, I did this with a majority of solid foods, and yes, they were all clean.

[Warrior]

Depends on the other macros you are getting in, what state your body is in (post workout, breaking the morning fast, mid day, middle of the night...)... and stuff like AAS can deffinitly effect protein partitioning as well...

[pr0digalsun]

If I were shooting for 300g protein a day, what percentage of that should be solid food vs shake or suppliment?

Eating 100% of my protein in solid food "feels" more natural, but it gets difficult to get the level of protein in want without increasing the fat or carb percentage of my total cal intake...

[IBdmfkr]

Eat more fish/chicken/turkey cutlets/egg whites..
Not very hard to avoid fat and carbs with these sources of protein.

[ultraaman]

"Too much" is a relative term because there are a lot of factors to consider" the most dynamic of which is your body. And yes it is possible to overdo it. Urea is an acid produced by the kidneys as protein is digested and filtered by the body. It makes sense that higher amounts of protein will increase urea in the blood however you would have eat a lot of incomplete protein with very low amounts of carbs for a several weeks to get to a level that is harmful.

There are ways to counter-balance it so that you don't have to worry about it and if you eat right then you're already doing it. All of the following neutralize urea:

Lysine - Beef, pork, and most protein shakes contain a fair amount of it
Nitric Oxide - While free floating in the blood only
Fish enzymes - Most fish have a too-long-to-pronounce enzyme that does the trick

Excessive blood urea causes organ damage, fatigue, and can trigger latent diseases in the body.

[WelshWarrior]

This is an ancient one. You been rummaging in the archives and forgot where you were?!