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    PS. Tonic water is not calorie free for those that don't know. Might as well have regular soda in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tretch187
    PS. Tonic water is not calorie free for those that don't know. Might as well have regular soda in there.


    Soda water is calorie free.....Drink Vodka, Soda with a twist

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    its related to dependency, so its definately relevant...And who said I was escpaing any problems? Dude a drink here and there puts ur mind at ease, that doesnt make you an alcoholic, so u gotta get that straight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided09
    its related to dependency, so its definately relevant...And who said I was escpaing any problems? Dude a drink here and there puts ur mind at ease, that doesnt make you an alcoholic, so u gotta get that straight...

    bogorexia falls under the OCD bracket more than anything, when drinking comes into play you cannot compare the two, now you could compare plactic surgrey to bigorexia but no one here is thinking of getting bicep implants i hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve0
    bogorexia falls under the OCD bracket more than anything, when drinking comes into play you cannot compare the two, now you could compare plactic surgrey to bigorexia but no one here is thinking of getting bicep implants i hope.

    Bigoarexia falls under plastic surgery???? IF AND ONLY IF BIGOREXIA IS NOT ACCOMPANIED BY STEROID USE. Is plastic surgery against the law?? Are there mind altering substances which are used in plastic surgery. The simple act of participating in an activity that is ILLEGAL, proves the there is a psycho-sematic disorder to begin with (as in the use of banned substances). Am I admitting to haveing mental issues. More so in my use of steroids than alcohol. Absolutely. Go to the steroid forum and read about all of the people "mentally crashing" while coming off the juice. Steroid abuse is every bit as big of a problem as alcoholism, with one big difference. Alcohol is LEGAL!!!! I have seen people kill themselves, literally and figuratively because of their use (abuse) of steroids.
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    The comparison between Alcohol and Juice is very relevant, thanks pie..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided09
    its related to dependency, so its definately relevant...And who said I was escpaing any problems? Dude a drink here and there puts ur mind at ease, that doesnt make you an alcoholic, so u gotta get that straight...
    look, we both have very different opinions on the matter. neither of us is right, neither is wrong, it's all a matter of opinion. any form of trying to create a situation otherwise is futile. it's all a matter of perspective and priority.

    there is nothing to "get straight" as you said. as far as it "putting ur mind at ease", you have to speak for yourself on that. you can't make that a universal statement for all consumers as the "ur" part of it seems to be directed at. some people such as yourself may feel it puts their mind at ease. however, some may become more stressed when drinking, hence why some people become rowdy or violent. it all depends on the person. also, how "at ease" does it have your mind when you did something stupid that night that you're regretting the next day? again, i just fail to see alcohol as an effective way to ease anything as there is far too much negative potential in it's consumption.

    like i said before, if you wanna go out and have some drinks once in a while, by all means party it up. i'm not saying that's something you should never do. i don't think that drinking in moderation is that much of an issue within itself. to me, the concerns lie within a persons intentions behind the drinking and their reasoning for it. i've already stated all my opinions on the matter.

    it comes down to what a persons priorities are and focusing on them while not making such sacrifices in other parts of your life as to diminish the quality of your life for a select few priorities. if you feel not drinking will somehow diminish the quality of your life, then i suppose you'd be better off drinking and being happier than not and being miserable. it's just not a healthy escape, release, destressor, or whatever else it is you're trying to use it for with the whole "mind at ease" saying.
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    [QUOTE=ascendant]look, we both have very different opinions on the matter. neither of us is right, neither is wrong, it's all a matter of opinion. any form of trying to create a situation otherwise is futile. it's all a matter of perspective and priority.
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    Smartest thing I've every heard u say...

    [QUOTE]there is nothing to "get straight" as you said. as far as it "putting ur mind at ease", you have to speak for yourself on that. you can't make that a universal statement for all consumers as the "ur" part of it seems to be directed at. some people such as yourself may feel it puts their mind at ease. however, some may become more stressed when drinking, hence why some people become rowdy or violent. it all depends on the person. also, how "at ease" does it have your mind when you did something stupid that night that you're regretting the next day? again, i just fail to see alcohol as an effective way to ease anything as there is far too much negative potential in it's consumption.[QUOTE]

    Well your assuming that I'm getting hammered everytime I drink, I was talking about having a few beers, or a few vodka tonics just to relax, I don't find that negative, or something I will regret the next day...


    [QUOTE]like i said before, if you wanna go out and have some drinks once in a while, by all means party it up. i'm not saying that's something you should never do. i don't think that drinking in moderation is that much of an issue within itself. to me, the concerns lie within a persons intentions behind the drinking and their reasoning for it. i've already stated all my opinions on the matter.

    it comes down to what a persons priorities are and focusing on them while not making such sacrifices in other parts of your life as to diminish the quality of your life for a select few priorities. if you feel not drinking will somehow diminish the quality of your life, then i suppose you'd be better off drinking and being happier than not and being miserable. it's just not a healthy escape, release, destressor, or whatever else it is you're trying to use it for with the whole "mind at ease" saying [QUOTE]

    Well I'd like to contest that as long as it is under control it is healthy, not healthy as in beneficial to ur body, but it helps "most" people relax, and after hard week its healthy in helping that aspect...

    Stop making ur posts so long, I hate reading, lol, jk....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided09
    Well I'd like to contest that as long as it is under control it is healthy, not healthy as in beneficial to ur body, but it helps "most" people relax, and after hard week its healthy in helping that aspect
    under your premise, cigarettes are healthy too, cause they help people unwind at times as well. fact is, something unhealthy for your body is unhealthy for your body, no matter the level of consumption or the reason for it's consumption.

    if you want something to help you relax, try meditation, or a nice warm epsom salt bath. one of my personal favs is a full body massage. however, there is no legitmate reasoning to being able to find alcohol healthy.

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    how bout we settle this over a beer...

    ...or twelve

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    wow this has gotten insane since i last saw it.

    the way i see it, the odd night out drinking isn't going to kill anyone.

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    While you drink try taking some activated charcoal.....it helps absorb the toxins released from alcohol like aldehyde bodies.........then your body doesn't get too toxified by them. This doesn't effect your buzz at all and you'll feel great the next day if you take about 2 or 3 with the booz. You just might crap a lil black the next day. It's worked great for me in the past.

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    activated charcoal isnt that the same stuff that is in those generic chaser tablets on tv

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane1
    activated charcoal isnt that the same stuff that is in those generic chaser tablets on tv
    generic is the key word there....that stuff might as well be called unactivated charcoal. The good stuff you can find at big chains such as whole foods, wild oats etc.

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    cranberry and vodka is the key!! clean ur system and get buzzed!~

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    a really big bodybuilder at my gym once told me :"be easy, take your time, have patience with workin out and have fun with it...and sometimes a good night of drinkin carbs is good for u..."

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    Just curious, I have read clear liquors like Bacardi superior and what not over dark liquors. What is the reasoning behind this? Do darker liquors contain more sugar/carbs or calories on average?

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    Find a suitable replacement. Something else that will bring you a little bit of pleasure. When my friends are drinking, I have my water jug on hand to remind me of what I should be drinking. I also like to go out and get a good cigar, or even some dip. A little nicotene is a lot better than alcohol. Of course, this is only a once every other week thing, don't think i'm addicted to tobacco :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoFaith068
    Find a suitable replacement. Something else that will bring you a little bit of pleasure. When my friends are drinking, I have my water jug on hand to remind me of what I should be drinking. I also like to go out and get a good cigar, or even some dip. A little nicotene is a lot better than alcohol. Of course, this is only a once every other week thing, don't think i'm addicted to tobacco :P
    xanax, vicadin? just playin..

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