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    Better utilization of carbs

    Help me out guys....and gals.Right now I take 160gms carbs per day.I take a 20gm yogurt pre-workout and a 60gm meal PWO.Then its two more meals at 40 gms each.Is this optimal for someone who seems to have high insulin resistance?I read and reread the sticky for cutting and it says that the bulk of carbs should come in your PWO shake.

    What I am wondering is should I drop from 3 meals a day pro/carbs to just the pre-workout meal and PWO shake.Instead of 60 gms carbs PWO maybe increase to 100.Pre-workout meal would now be 40 gms carbs from yogurt and oats.

    Is this a wiser choice for someone with high insulin resistance?I feel that i am getting worse again and my hypoglycemia is back.I went to 4 meals a day of carbs and I think thats why.

    I am confused as I wonder if I take in such a high amount of carbs in say a 2 hour period,will I absorb that into my muscles or will it mostly be turned to fat?

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    If you are taking in most of your carbs around your workout, they will more than likely be used as fuel for your muscles and stored as muscle glycogen.

    I would suggest on training days placing all your carbs around your workout, and on non-training days getting them in the morning/early afternoon say they will be burned up as the day progresses.

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    160carbs/day, I might die. Why so little carbs? What is your total caloric intake and your stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    160carbs/day, I might die.
    maybe hes cutting?

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    I am cutting.

    5ft9
    187pounds
    I predict 170 and ill be lean
    Im eating about 2000 cal per day

    160 gms carbs is more than the cutting sticky diet has

    Well after just one day of slamming my carbs down in a PWO and PPWO meals instead of 4 meals pro/carb I feel like my hypoglycemia is going away again.80gms dex right after a workout just seems to fill my muscles up.Like the cutting sticky says"try to center the bulk of your carbs right around your workout.

    I work out at 5:45am...my meals around the workout are:
    PreWO
    1 small yogurt ......20gms carbs

    PWO
    80gms Dex/40gms whey ......80gms carbs

    PPWO
    1/2 cup oats/6oz turkey breast ......40gms carbs

    Meal 3 and 4
    A protein drink containing 35gms protein,almost no carbs/and some almonds

    Meal 5
    about 6 oz raw salmon sashimi

    Meal 6
    6oz calves liver with a tiny amount of fried onion
    and some brocolli

    I take r-ala 200mcg 15 minutes before each carb meal.My first day back to eating this way and I feel a difference.But this is just me.I try to do BFL 6meals a day of a portion protein and a portion carb and Iget hypo off it

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    Expect to lose quite a bit of LBM with a diet like that.. best of luck.

    Btw, the cutting sticky needs some work IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Expect to lose quite a bit of LBM with a diet like that.. best of luck.

    Btw, the cutting sticky needs some work IMO.
    IBd,could you explain why I will lose mass.I actually increased my protein from 25gms per meal to 40.Whenever I go to 40 my muscle mass increases and my strength increases are awesome.

    Do you think its just that the calories are too low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Expect to lose quite a bit of LBM with a diet like that.. best of luck.

    Btw, the cutting sticky needs some work IMO.


    deff agree about the cutting sticky, the cutting stick will work for ya if your like around 20% bf, but what if your leaner like around 10% thats were it gets a little tricky on dropping bf%,


    O and you gonna loose some serious LBM on this diet bro, why are you not haveing protein in the morning ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve0
    deff agree about the cutting sticky, the cutting stick will work for ya if your like around 20% bf, but what if your leaner like around 10% thats were it gets a little tricky on dropping bf%,


    O and you gonna loose some serious LBM on this diet bro, why are you not haveing protein in the morning ?????
    I wake up and have a yogurt then head to gym.The yogurt has 20gms carbs and 5gms protein.I also didnt add that i take a coffee with about 1/4 skim in it before gym.This adds 3gms carbs and 2gms protein to the mix.I feel thats enuff as I just want to get blood sugar up and some aminos.This is better than the BFL way where the author says to do weights and cardio on an empty stomach.I feel like shit when ever I tried that.

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    if your hittin the gym right when you get up eat some whey and quick oats man.

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    I'm not sure where to start to critique your diet, I'd actually trash it and start from scratch.

    Yes you need to eat more IMO to build muscle and/or hold LBM while losing fat. 2000calories for somebody w/my metabolism would certainly not be a productive thing. I'd have to know your maintainance caloric needs to know whether 2000kcal would be sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve0
    if your hittin the gym right when you get up eat some whey and quick oats man.
    Ill try that when my yogurts run out I cant waste food as I was brought up that way.I must say though that a few times I drank a gatorade right at start of workout.Man o man,was it an intense session.Will do that when im bulking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    I'm not sure where to start to critique your diet, I'd actually trash it and start from scratch.

    Yes you need to eat more IMO to build muscle and/or hold LBM while losing fat. 2000calories for somebody w/my metabolism would certainly not be a productive thing. I'd have to know your maintainance caloric needs to know whether 2000kcal would be sufficient.
    I have no idea what my maintenance cal would be.I was eating 1200 before and this was too low.2000 seemed reasonable for me.I weighed myself this morning and saw Im down to 183 pounds.Thats a 4 pound drop.I think im gonna go to 50gms per meal of protein.My goodness thats alot of protein!!!


    I dont want to start another thread as im becoming a thread starting junkie but i have another question.Right now 4 of my meals are pro/fat and I try to eat bad saturated fats in one of those meals daily.Yesterday it was liver and today it was a shish kabob which are really fatty pieces of beef.Tommorow it will be eggs whole.

    Do you think this is detrimental to daily consume saturated fats and cholesterol even if its only for one meal per day?

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    Why would you purposely consume sat. fats when trying to cut bodyfat? You should be taking in good fats; EFAs/Unsat fats. Also you think 200g's of protein is a lot? You need to be consuming 1-1.5g of protein/lb LBM, so shoot for more like 250-300g protein/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Why would you purposely consume sat. fats when trying to cut bodyfat? You should be taking in good fats; EFAs/Unsat fats. Also you think 200g's of protein is a lot? You need to be consuming 1-1.5g of protein/lb LBM, so shoot for more like 250-300g protein/day.
    I think your right.Why cut out saturated fat from diet for health reasons and then gorge on it for one meal.

    I think you misunderstood me about the protein.I take in more than 200gms per day.I consume about 240gms per day right now and am thinking of hitting 300gms.I appreciate your tips IBd and will report on my progress

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    No problem.. keep at it and stay consistant on whatever you choose to do so you can judge your progress and then make changes as needed.. Seem like you're doing that already, good to hear!
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