hi im new and desperate

[beefyuk3]

hi people
1st sorry if this in the wrong part of the forum.
ive been training on cardio now for 6to 8 months i was a heavy 18stone 7 lbs
i dropped down to 14.9 i have a bit of a belly nothing much compared to previous.
im absoultley new to the scene and need massive help and hopefully for some one to take me under there wing for guidance.
i have just started training i have looked and found a website which shows me videos of how to do all excercises for all body parts on all different types of machines or free weights so for training issues im pretty much sorted as i have the guidance [ i will post the site if any one wants it and if it is allowed]
I know there is many factors about building yourself up factors i dont know about and need help with ie food supplements and all other jargon im not used to but very much in need of learning.
ive just started takin clen, taurine, and high vitamins, and potassium and a whey protein not sure wat im doing how to take it and heard of useing benadryl aswell ? so please if u dont mind i would like u to overload me with as much info as u can on all aspects i cant really search the forum for wat i need cause im not too sure myself
thankyou for your time beefyuk3
p.s im a type of person who puts on weight very easy
height 5.9
weight 14.9
supplements im on, clen, taurin,potassium ,vitamins ,whey protein
training 6-8 months cardio just starting lifting weights

[rar1015]

Well first off you shouldnt be putting these chemicals in you system if you dont know how to use them. Anyways you should check out the diet forum here and it'll give you a lot of good info on dieting. Heres a little info on running clen:


CLENBUTERAL FAQ: EVERYTHING YOU
NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT CLENBUTEROL
by BigAndy69

What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

A word on Ketotifen

Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.

Cycling Clenbuterol

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day


Anyways you should really start to use the search function at the top right of this page and you will find every bit of information you need bro. Hope this help.

[rodge]

i would lay off the clen and start reading up on excersise and dieting as much as you can.

i will move it to the diet section as this will be your nr.1 priority.

-rodge

[rar1015]

That would be the smart thing to do.

[audis4]

post el diet.

[Tambit24]

nice info on clen. I never considered it instead of ephedrine. Can clen be purchased otc? My diet is at an ideal level for it. Sorry not tryin to highjack, but the info is here.

[rar1015]

I cant take credit for that info on clen......that was someone else's post but i bookmarked it because its a lot of good info. I would suggest getting clen from ar-r. Its legit and shipping has always been great for me.

[Tambit24]

I cant take credit for that info on clen......that was someone else's post but i bookmarked it because its a lot of good info. I would suggest getting clen from ar-r. Its legit and shipping has always been great for me.

Now with the ephedrine tabs I stack with caffine(redline), would I do so with the clen? Is this the right stuff?

[rar1015]

Yeah thats the right stuff. If you cycle the clen 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off i would use the ephedrine on the off weeks as stated above.

[Tambit24]

is this stuff ok to take with caffine pills though?

[cj1capp]

hi people
1st sorry if this in the wrong part of the forum.
ive been training on cardio now for 6to 8 months i was a heavy 18stone 7 lbs
i dropped down to 14.9 i have a bit of a belly nothing much compared to previous.
im absoultley new to the scene and need massive help and hopefully for some one to take me under there wing for guidance.
i have just started training i have looked and found a website which shows me videos of how to do all excercises for all body parts on all different types of machines or free weights so for training issues im pretty much sorted as i have the guidance [ i will post the site if any one wants it and if it is allowed]
I know there is many factors about building yourself up factors i dont know about and need help with ie food supplements and all other jargon im not used to but very much in need of learning.
ive just started takin clen, taurine, and high vitamins, and potassium and a whey protein not sure wat im doing how to take it and heard of useing benadryl aswell ? so please if u dont mind i would like u to overload me with as much info as u can on all aspects i cant really search the forum for wat i need cause im not too sure myself
thankyou for your time beefyuk3
p.s im a type of person who puts on weight very easy
height 5.9
weight 14.9
supplements im on, clen, taurin,potassium ,vitamins ,whey protein
training 6-8 months cardio just starting lifting weights

i would stop the clen and step the weights and cardio. save the clen for latter and by the way good job so far!!

[beefyuk3]

1st off thx u kindly for your time and replying to my post it makes me feel very welcome.
for wat the clen does i think really i should come off of it as wat i thought i was buying isnt wat i got tbh i thought it was alot stronger and give a miracle turn around .
training
rowin 10 min
cycle 10 min
cross trainer 20 min
runnin 15 min [unable to do for 3 months due to bike crash]
weights i step up on weight example:
1st set 12 reps 80 lbs
2nd set 10 reps 100 lbs
3rd set 8 reps 120 lbs
this has been constant for 6 months i rarely miss a day but rest if i feel the need with working different body parts weights 6/7 weeks.
i feel im at a point with my body weight that i need more then just wat im doing to shift it. i have been naturally a big bloke, best to describe is like a rugby player build. tbh i need that extra bump from something to help progress.
im looking for all the bits, muscle growth, fat loss, to get healthier
should i take something or just carry on with how i am u people are my bible now, please guide me. thxs could i do a Paleolithic Diet or is it to intense for me at present time