constant protein

**svarturer** · 08-28-2006, 03:14 PM

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**GUnit33** · 08-28-2006, 03:17 PM

Yes.

**svarturer** · 08-28-2006, 03:19 PM

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***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-28-2006, 03:21 PM

I go for around 50-60g as if i have anymore my sweat starts stinking of ammonia which is a sure sign i have too much protein running around my system!!

**svarturer** · 08-28-2006, 04:02 PM

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**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by svartur

hehe !!

what is the reason behind this ? if cals are almost equal every meal ?

Well your muscles need proteins and if you didn't have protein with every meal, you would be losing mass and that would be an incomplete meal. The meal would be useless to your body without the protein.

**svarturer** · 08-28-2006, 04:57 PM

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**GUnit33** · 08-28-2006, 04:58 PM

What he said.

**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 05:11 PM

I know its recommended to keep protein constant i.e. not having 80g in one meal and 40g in the next etc. I would assume so your body gets use to breaking down that set amount.

**Puffader** · 08-28-2006, 05:51 PM

I try to keep it about 40g every 3 hours with or without fats or carbs

**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Puffader

I try to keep it about 40g every 3 hours with or without fats or carbs

If you had protein without fat or carbs it would be an incomplete protein meal.

**Puffader** · 08-28-2006, 07:12 PM

Damn, I see I can't get anything past you. I know I'm not perfect so please, don't hate me. Maybe you can make me a diet. PLEASE..!!!

Originally Posted by audis4

If you had protein without fat or carbs it would be an incomplete protein meal.

**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Puffader

Damn, I see I can't get anything past you. I know I'm not perfect so please, don't hate me. Maybe you can make me a diet. PLEASE..!!!

What?? Why would I hate you? post your diet bro, be happy to critique!

**Hackamaniac** · 08-28-2006, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

If you had protein without fat or carbs it would be an incomplete protein meal.

What about people who are cutting and only have carbs in 2 or 3 meals???Do you atleast have to have brocolli with it then..and olive oil in a few??

**Puffader** · 08-28-2006, 08:58 PM

7am
2 Mcmuffins
2 hashbrowns

10am
3 slices of dbl cheese pizza from the night before

1pm
2 whoppers with cheese
large fries

4pm
2 wendy singles with chees
large frosty

7pm
large subway ham and chees sub w/mayo

10pm
4 slices dbl cheese pizza

12am
4 walnuts

I'm all about a clean diet

Originally Posted by audis4

What?? Why would I hate you? post your diet bro, be happy to critique!

**zodiac666** · 08-28-2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

If you had protein without fat or carbs it would be an incomplete protein meal.

i thought a complete protein was a protein with all the essential amino acids. how would not adding carbs or fat make the protein incomplete

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 08-28-2006, 11:15 PM

Keeping constant serum protein levels is highly dependent upon the quality of protein you consume....equally as important as how much you eat and when.

Obviously, whey (isolate/concentrate) is utilized in your system within the hour and even faster with dextrose PWO. Casein can go between 3-5 hrs because it turns into gel in the stomach. Cooked eggs, and meat proteins roughly take 4-6 hours to get completely absorbed.... And if thats not all, throwing fats and fiber (like nuts and flax, etc) into the mix will slow the absorption of all protein classes even more (maybe 30 min -2 extra hrs), not to mention even nuts and vegetables have some protein in them although they are incomplete and should be complemented with complete sources to count towards aggregate protein intake.

These are the sort of considerations one must make when planning out a meal around ones work schedule and training. For example, I eat roughly 65 grams of protein at breakfast, 33% from whey (quick release, for immediate supply after fasting all night) , 33% from eggs (slow release, lasting me till my next meal) and 33% from the oats/nuts (v.slow release due to the fiber and fat, which allows baseline levels for many hours later..it also slows the other 66% by a bit as well)..

just my humble .02

**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Hackamaniac

What about people who are cutting and only have carbs in 2 or 3 meals???Do you atleast have to have brocolli with it then..and olive oil in a few??

Yea, I eat broccoli with every meal pro/carb or pro/fat (usually 2 cups) and throw olive oil on top or eat PB or full fat mayo with chicken.

**audis4** · 08-28-2006, 11:20 PM

Ok ok, apparently you were being sarcastic puffader.

***Narkissos*** · 08-28-2006, 11:23 PM

Yes.. i spread both my protein and kcals eually tru-out the day

Originally Posted by svartur

Why is that ...

To keep serum amino levels constant.

**europeandancer** · 08-29-2006, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

If you had protein without fat or carbs it would be an incomplete protein meal.

hey do not generalise man com'on now, i am in a ketosis period only my 50grs of protein per meal NO CARBS/FAT every 3 hours and it works for me definitely IT IS a complete meal as long as you know your goal and why you are doing it

**IronFreakX** · 08-29-2006, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by europeandancer

hey do not generalise man com'on now, i am in a ketosis period only my 50grs of protein per meal NO CARBS/FAT every 3 hours and it works for me definitely IT IS a complete meal as long as you know your goal and why you are doing it

Then you're gonna die soon, living on protein alone will not last very long bud, just thought I'd let ya know.

**svarturer** · 08-29-2006, 06:20 AM

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**zodiac666** · 08-29-2006, 06:40 AM

just similar, a few grams wont make a difference

**IBdmfkr** · 08-29-2006, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by IronFreakX

Then you're gonna die soon, living on protein alone will not last very long bud, just thought I'd let ya know.

You don't stay on a protein only diet bro.. you deplete yourself and then go keto for a day or two and then fill your glycogen stores back out, actually an extremely effective way to lose fat if done properly although it's not an easy thing to do.

I take in 40-50grams/meal as well, you will get fats from your meats and either have a good low GI carb source and/or Veggies with each meal except for the instance talked about above.

**audis4** · 08-29-2006, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by europeandancer

hey do not generalise man com'on now, i am in a ketosis period only my 50grs of protein per meal NO CARBS/FAT every 3 hours and it works for me definitely IT IS a complete meal as long as you know your goal and why you are doing it

Bro, I'm not talking about a ketosis diet. I'm referring to the cutting diet that gits rid of body fat and keeps lean muscle mass.

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 08-29-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by svartur

Thanks insane & nark
Do you keep it exacly the same or similar ( + - 5 ?? )

mine hovers between 45-65 g per meal (6X a day).. I'd say thats okay...not ideal..but okay!

**spittin' 'n cussin'** · 08-29-2006, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I go for around 50-60g as if i have anymore my sweat starts stinking of ammonia which is a sure sign i have too much protein running around my system!!

i think youre either imagining this or not drinking enough water dude

**C_Bino** · 08-29-2006, 08:53 PM

Nark and BS both really said what I believe as well. I keep it at 60g per meal and only ever alter the carbs, I dont count fat either but have on serving of flax daily.

**svarturer** · 08-30-2006, 03:17 AM

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***Narkissos*** · 08-31-2006, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by spittin' 'n cussin'

i think youre either imagining this or not drinking enough water dude

No.. It happens if you're taking in more protein than your body can utilise.

I use to experience this (ammonia smell in sweat).. but no longer.

I don't ingest as much protein as most guys here do.